How long with Dolph Ziggler, Ryback & Erick Rowan be "fired" This poll is closed. |
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Over a month. | 8 | 2.74% | |
About a month. | 7 | 2.40% | |
2-3 Weeks. | 59 | 20.21% | |
They'll be back on the next episode of RAW. | 218 | 74.66% | |
Total: | 292 votes |
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Not when there's thousands of comments loving ramrodding the episode for entirely different reasons right underneath. I believe you can watch PWG streaming on Highspots, and NJPW has it's own streaming service that is cheaper than WWE network. It's really not that hard if you care to put a little easy effort into it.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 09:11 |
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Not when there's thousands of comments loving ramrodding the episode for entirely different reasons right underneath. Noone is going to read them. Lazer posted:. That or just the facade of social interaction with the fans. because it's mostly this
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 09:11 |
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Blasmeister posted:Noone is going to read them. I want to believe god drat it. The_Rob posted:I believe you can watch PWG streaming on Highspots, and NJPW has it's own streaming service that is cheaper than WWE network. It's really not that hard if you care to put a little easy effort into it. I'm sorry but one thing WWE Network actually does well is device integration, and I get sick of constantly needing to use my laptop sometimes. The app allows me to stream on my tablet as easy as anything with a few easy presses, and it's lovely. I get that the companies in question don't have anywhere near the same resources but the point is there might be more to it for some people than "You just don't like good wrestling, admit it."
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 09:18 |
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Well three kinda popular faces were "fired" so wouldn't that explain why people didn't like the episode?
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 09:20 |
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SamuraiFoochs posted:I want to believe god drat it. It's that there always seems to be another excuse on why you can't possibly get into something, even though all the parameters that are laid out are being met. There comes a point when you can just admit that you would rather watch WWE.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 09:21 |
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It doesn't matter if we sat down Vince, tied him up like in Clockwork Orange, and made him read every comment in that poll and followed it with every wrestling weekly thread on this forum going back ten years. You cannot change people, their brains will fight like lunatics to not change no matter how strong the evidence is, and this is for NORMAL people, let alone maybe-senile beyond-stubborn insanely-narcissistic types like Vince. It's good for letting off some steam, but that's all.
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keevo posted:Well three kinda popular faces were "fired" so wouldn't that explain why people didn't like the episode? most of the comments are making GBS threads on the show for a bunch of reasons you would see posted here.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 09:22 |
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The_Rob posted:Why can't people just admit that they don't actually want to watch NJPW or good wrestling, and are completely content with watching wwe. It's ok if you don't want to watch anything else, just admit it. Because it's harder to watch anything other than WWE and maybe Nitro live with PSPbros.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 09:27 |
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The_Rob posted:It's that there always seems to be another excuse on why you can't possibly get into something, even though all the parameters that are laid out are being met. There comes a point when you can just admit that you would rather watch WWE. It reminds me of the friends I have who get all smug about the superiority of PC gaming, really. It might be a superior experience but people yammering on about it gets kind of tiring. Anyway PWG is cool NJPW is cool wrestling is cool PSP is cool, I've said my piece.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 09:28 |
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Just stop making excuses and say you don't want to watch it then. Complaining about lovely WWE every week but not making one iota of effort to find actual good wrestling is stupid. Might as well say "I love Stockholm Syndrome!!!!" Also Reign's promo was loving terrible. Why are they putting him with Show if he wants to get over? Stupid. The Ascension have the best entrance.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 09:32 |
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Fart Radio posted:most of the comments are making GBS threads on the show for a bunch of reasons you would see posted here. True. Kinda curious how many of those comments are from people that are casual viewers vs people that browse the wrestling sub-reddit and websites.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 09:35 |
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SamuraiFoochs posted:I'm sorry but one thing WWE Network actually does well is device integration, and I get sick of constantly needing to use my laptop sometimes. The app allows me to stream on my tablet as easy as anything with a few easy presses, and it's lovely. I get that the companies in question don't have anywhere near the same resources but the point is there might be more to it for some people than "You just don't like good wrestling, admit it." I agree to the device integration, this makes the WWE network super easy sell over NJPW's offering. In my case this wasn't the number one problem, I built a HTPC to use instead of a cablebox so I could configure it to open NJPW's website. As somebody who had no interest in NJPW until the announcement of the JR/Striker duo for WK9, the barrier to entry for me was the language. I understand that I can do the research or watch a few previous shows to understand why the card is the way it is, but having English commentators give information in context while I was watching the wrestling helped a lot and made the transition easier. And because of WK9 I am definitely considering NJPW's online streaming service, because kayfabe reasoning aside, the match quality alone was excellent to warrant a purchase. Now that I have a little understanding of some of roster, it makes it easier to follow. I have to say, even as ignorant as it sounds, I probably would have not cared about NJPW had it not been for the GFW presentation. I'm pretty casual to wrestling, so the easier it is for me to invest time into it, the more likely I'll watch it and give it a shot. Now that I have been exposed to it, it makes me wonder why I put up with watching WWE, because RAW has made me fall asleep on a few occasions recently.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 09:37 |
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I don't know why people say NJPW World is difficult to use. I subscribed in ten minutes during lunch yesterday and by last night I was watching Wrestle Kingdom on my iPad. It was completely painless.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 09:44 |
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John Cena is a better wrestler than Okada.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 09:45 |
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paint dry posted:I don't know why people say NJPW World is difficult to use. I subscribed in ten minutes during lunch yesterday and by last night I was watching Wrestle Kingdom on my iPad. It was completely painless. When it comes to technology, you can lay out something with easy directions, but there will be people who muck it up and get frustrated. Sebastian Vettel posted:John Cena is a better wrestler than Okada. So that's why he's crying on the banner this week. It all makes sense now.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 09:50 |
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Sebastian Vettel posted:John Cena is a better wrestler than Okada. Explains why Okada stole his finisher.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 09:52 |
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RBX posted:Just stop making excuses and say you don't want to watch it then. Complaining about lovely WWE every week but not making one iota of effort to find actual good wrestling is stupid. Might as well say "I love Stockholm Syndrome!!!!" This is the last I'll say about it because this is a stupid argument but try this analogy. It's like going up to someone eating at a fast food place and feeling the need to tell them their choices are poo poo and to make their own food instead. Are you inherently wrong? No. Is homemade food better? Yes. Is it impossible to make your own food? No. But upbraiding someone for consuming fast food every time they do can come off sort of annoying.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 09:55 |
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SamuraiFoochs posted:This is the last I'll say about it because this is a stupid argument but try this analogy. It's like going up to someone eating at a fast food place and feeling the need to tell them their choices are poo poo and to make their own food instead. Are you inherently wrong? No. Is homemade food better? Yes. Is it impossible to make your own food? No. But upbraiding someone for consuming fast food every time they do can come off sort of annoying. The analogy is more seeing a person who eats fast food every day and complains about it every day, so someone says hey just make food at home, and the person eating fast food goes hey it's too hard to make food, and it costs too much money, and I don't know how to read recipes to cook.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 09:59 |
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I don't watch good wrestling because every time I do I get super drained after the show and can't function. Every chikara event I've been to, every ROH show I've ordered all have just drained me. I like having the highs and lows of a program as it gives me a break to relax and get ready for the next big thing. It's one thing that, when the WWE does it well, they do it really, REALLY well. I go to Smackdowns, House Shows, and PPVs when they're in town. Generally I skip RAW. I listen to RAW in the background and flip over when it sounds like there's something stupid or good happening, so I can either laugh or get into it. vvv Foochs: relax man, they're gonna bait you all they want if you keep responding. Same reason why the Japan-hype-team shows up after every RAW/PPV regardless to say "watch this instead" just want to get under someone's skin. Eldritch BiLast fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Jan 6, 2015 |
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The_Rob posted:The analogy is more seeing a person who eats fast food every day and complains about it every day, so someone says hey just make food at home, and the person eating fast food goes hey it's too hard to make fast food, and it costs too much money, and I don't know how to read recipes to cook. Except I don't complain every week. Been a bad month or so but lest you forget I also get poo poo sometimes for NOT complaining.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 10:02 |
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Watching the rest of Raw now. That ambulance match sucked.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 10:04 |
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Except I don't complain every week. Been a bad month or so but lest you forget I also get poo poo sometimes for NOT complaining. For real, you're one of the most optimistic PSPers when it comes to WWE, so it's not like you're constantly down on the product. If anything, I know things must be lovely when you of all people hate it.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 10:18 |
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As bad as Raw is, at least we'll always have Mizdow: https://vine.co/v/OdEAQZ21Vel
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 10:33 |
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I hope next week they come up with some flimsy, poo poo writing way of bringing back Ziggler and Ryback... but never mention Rowan again as he is legit gone and never returns. Then Rowan can go to be TNA's next big star.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 10:50 |
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Sebastian Vettel posted:John Cena is a better wrestler than Okada. Agreed my man
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 11:04 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uLg4eMCby0&t=49s Gotta hide that smile
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 11:16 |
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So of course, the opposite of this is Cena has to threaten to kill Rollins or Steph or Hunter to get them to bring back the rest right? Or sting'll do it, because John Cena has no agency anymore. Seriously he never does anything anymore, poo poo just happens around him.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 11:23 |
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Anyone know what happened dark match wise after they went off air?
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 11:39 |
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Onmi posted:So of course, the opposite of this is Cena has to threaten to kill Rollins or Steph or Hunter to get them to bring back the rest right? Or sting'll do it, because John Cena has no agency anymore. Seriously he never does anything anymore, poo poo just happens around him. Orrrrrrrrr........maybe we end up with a heel John Cena who planned all of this from the start? It's a perpetual and fantastical internet pipe dream, I know, but Hyperintelligent Mastermind Heel Cena could really shake things up in this goddamn company.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 11:48 |
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Gonz posted:Orrrrrrrrr........maybe we end up with a heel John Cena who planned all of this from the start? The reason it won't happen is because it never has to. Heel Hogan in WCW lit a fire under WWF's rear end when there was competition, but Vince never would've turned Hogan heel himself.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 12:06 |
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sticklefifer posted:The reason it won't happen is because it never has to. Heel Hogan in WCW lit a fire under WWF's rear end when there was competition, but Vince never would've turned Hogan heel himself. That's true. Still, the prospect of a heel Cena, no matter how unlikely, would go a long way in ending this "same old/same old" dreck that we've been subjected to for a better part of the last decade. I agree that it'll probably never happen, but Vince, Stephanie and HHH cannot hope to ride the status quo to greater success in the future. People will not tolerate another 5+ years of "LOL CENA WINS". At least I hope they won't; but who the hell knows.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 12:27 |
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I thought it was a decent raw to some extent. I haven't watched a full raw in nearly six months or more. I really don't see why the face loses the feud in the Wyatt vs. Ambrose feud but I liked the match. Paige seems pretty cool. The last segment was pretty funny. Cena looking gob smacked and distraught all night was pretty absurd though. How can you support such a crybaby? I thought bagging out LOD and Demolition was a pretty good way to get heat but the crowd were poo poo and didn't seem to be listening or understanding. JBL, the heel commentator, going off at them afterwards made no sense and he should be punched in the dick for it. If they did that in front of a smarky crowd they would have got crazy heat. NXT is better though.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 12:28 |
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Gonz posted:That's true. Still, the prospect of a heel Cena, no matter how unlikely, would go a long way in ending this "same old/same old" dreck that we've been subjected to for a better part of the last decade. I believe now if there ever was a Cena turn(unlikely) the true end result would just be reversing the age brackets on the lets go cena/cena sucks chant.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 12:30 |
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MacDougall posted:I thought bagging out LOD and Demolition was a pretty good way to get heat but the crowd were poo poo and didn't seem to be listening or understanding. LOD hasn't been relevant in over 15 years (and realistically it's probably closer to 20), and Demolition in about 25. It'd be like if in 2040 someone cut a promo about Carlito and Primo.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 13:15 |
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Onmi posted:John Cena has no agency anymore. Seriously he never does anything anymore, poo poo just happens around him. Ian Fleming said of James Bond "I wanted Bond to be an extremely dull, uninteresting man to whom things happened; I wanted him to be a blunt instrument ... Exotic things would happen to and around him, but he would be a neutral figure—an anonymous, blunt instrument wielded by a government department." John Cena is 007.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 13:15 |
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AngryCaterpillar posted:Ian Fleming said of James Bond "I wanted Bond to be an extremely dull, uninteresting man to whom things happened; I wanted him to be a blunt instrument ... Exotic things would happen to and around him, but he would be a neutral figure—an anonymous, blunt instrument wielded by a government department." He is like the opposite of him in the suit wearing department though
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 13:45 |
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The worst thing a wrestling show can be is predictable. I won't even say it was boring, because the in-ring talent they've got is really, really drat good. But it was a predictable show.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 13:56 |
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I like to use the term "aggressively mediocre" to describe the product as of late. It's like they're trying really hard to be boring.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 14:04 |
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When WWE is bad, I just remember the good things, like NXT. Specifically, I remember the Dubstep Cowboys.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 14:59 |
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I ended up enjoying that last segment (at least the last minute or so when the confetti falls and Cena stands there despondent) in a vacuum more than I thought. I mean, all WWE is is individual moments now instead of longer-term storylines and that was a neat heel moment for Steph and Hunter.
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