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HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

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nvm

HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Jan 19, 2015

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Crazy Achmed posted:

So, uh, how do you deal with hitting/getting hit in historical rapier? Those things don't look like they bend much.
You electrical-tape a thing to the end of it or get a nail, which is what they used to practice with at the time.

HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Feb 11, 2015

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The real danger in historical weapons are staff weapons, there's no way to make them truly safe so there's a few things I'll never get to do with other people in my chosen style.

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El Spamo posted:

sabreuers are the local community theater.
based on the only sabreuse I knew personally, I'm going with "short heavily muscled lesbians with anger issues"

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Oct 11, 2012

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Rodrigo Diaz posted:

your knuckles...bashing on the basket...
Giant freak hands, checking in.

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

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I think it's funny that this is the same thread that had a debate about whether or not women are strong enough to fence men

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Oct 11, 2012

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I bet this dude was fine at fencing

General Alessandro dal Borro, 1600-1656
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alessandro_dal_Borro

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El Spamo posted:

It's definitely not in the 'advantageous situation' column.
Check out this guy's arm:

From the Battle of Luetzen mass grave excavation

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Oct 11, 2012

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Welcome to turn-of-the-century France
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rElNQuBvFeQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vybUtd4GOnU
please enjoy your stay

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Oct 11, 2012

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I met a German frat brother in a hostel in Erfurt once; his scar was on the back/top of his head and he told me that's where a lot of them aim for now since in the right neighborhoods if you've got one on your face you'll get beat up because people will think you're a Nazi

Cool guy. He used the exact same word for "drinking a beer as fast as you can" and "the noise a sword makes when it hits another sword or a person." (Their beer of choice? According to him, Corona--since it has very little taste it's easier to down as fast as possible. They buy them by the flat)

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Oct 11, 2012

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This dude said he was a conservative and then I asked him what he thought about immigration into Germany and he said he wanted more of it, putting him, in American terms, somewhere to the left of Rosa Luxemburg

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Oct 11, 2012

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It's not feudalism, it's the late 19th/early 20th century's view of the Japanese past which, hilariously, was filtered through a reverse-weeaboo's idea of what medieval Europe had been like.

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Oct 11, 2012

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dupersaurus posted:

your wiggling tip
:wink:

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Oct 11, 2012

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every reenactor i know who's done it more than, like, five years has knee pain and ankle pain

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tirinal posted:

Yeah. The masters of swordplay aren't the guys that can defeat other masters, it's the guys that can defeat novices and drunks.
but they are also the drunks

it's the middle ages/early modern period, it's drunks all the way down

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thewireguy posted:

How rare is it to kill someone before they can stick you? I would think that hitting a leg and waiting for them to bleed out is fine, but I think sport stuff implies prolonged brawling where both parties score, and therefore die.
you can get cut w/o dying

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Oct 11, 2012

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Vnnsr means "us," not "them." Perhaps some sort of ritual beginning to the fight? "We're starting to fight now: may God not forget [either of?] us." (Not sure what the genitive is doing there)

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Oct 11, 2012

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I used to fence barefoot until I got some 17th century shoes for reenactment and started wearing those to fencing, since a lot of modern sneakers are too grippy to let your feet slide forward correctly. It was no big.

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Ravenfood posted:

Do you not have any epeeists where you are or something? Barefoot toe touches seem ugly.
I do 17th century fencing, and they usually aim for the face, neck, or chest. You can't kill a dude by sniping his toes.

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Crazy Achmed posted:

Feet might not always be target but I can't see how some sort of footwear is a bad thing. by all means wear thin/slightly slippery soles if that works for you, so long as you get the control you need out of it, but it's the situations where something goes wrong where you need the protection. I've seen plenty of novices doing a poorly-executed lowline parry where they go way too far with the blade and end up banging it into the ground.

Basically it's the same logic as wearing a mask in foil. The face might not be target but it doesn't mean you won't accidentally take a hit there...

of course. as soon as i got proper shoes i wore 'em

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Siivola posted:

Wearing masks when drilling is an absolute rule, but very few people wear gloves.
the difference is because americans, in my experience, are huge babies about getting hit on the hands

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Oct 11, 2012

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it's all a knife-on-a-stick, there's just different stick : knife ratios

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Oct 11, 2012

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BirdOfPlay posted:

All sports are awful to ref, believing otherwise is naive.
he meant that at some point in history, fencing changed from a thing where you are encouraged to grab a dude's sword and punch him in the head (good) to one where you are penalized for it (bad)

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Siivola posted:

Not in a tournament, no. But in the original context, it's anything goes.


I will strike you so hard in the groin
That all of your strength will be taken away.

"Taken away so quickly," look at the si p/oi there (scribal abbreviation for presta)

HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Jul 9, 2015

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ScratchAndSniff posted:

It's just so bizarre. I read that, and I've no doubt Windsor knows what he is talking about, but his conclusions and assumptions are just so foreign to me that I wouldn't know where to begin describing where I disagree.
i think it's about the difference between fencing as a sport and fencing as a way to kill people and defend yourself. Of course we're not going to actually go out and get ourselves killed, but the mindset behind the second is important to get if you want to really understand one of the martial arts that had that as a founding assumption

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Oct 11, 2012

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Rabhadh posted:

Does tennis elbow ever actually stop being a problem

i'll trade you my wrists and ankles for your elbow

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Oct 11, 2012

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Siivola posted:

But bruising is the best thing! You don't have anything to show off otherwise!
I got whacked so hard on my knee this weekend that the bruise left a perfect imprint of the nails that hold the pike's federn (the metal strips below the head) to the shaft.

edit: thrusting my long, inelegant weapon over and over

HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Aug 9, 2015

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10 Beers posted:

I thought those strips were called langets? Or is it just the same thing, but in different languages?
i live in germany right now and communicate by pointing at random poo poo and asking the people around me what to call it, so probably

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

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you're the second faroese i've ever met--what percentage of that region is that?

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

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yeah i'm into this kinda niche martial art

you probably haven't heard of it

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Oct 11, 2012

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ScratchAndSniff posted:

What is the most hipster weapon?
probably what i do, tbh

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

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it was never cool

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Oct 11, 2012

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my sword is still not ready

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Oct 11, 2012

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Dzurlord posted:

Also, there's a translation of a Dutch manual with single rapier, rapier and dagger, rapier and buckler, halberd, and pike that's available now!

I have no idea how it is, but it's surely the only Dutch manual that I know of, so I'm grabbing it because I'm that kind of nerd.
nah, this dude's dutch

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Oct 11, 2012

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rip ImplicitAssembler's wallet

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

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got a sword now


also got a friend who likes photography

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Oct 11, 2012

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danelli

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Siivola posted:

Nice.

So, do you know how to use it yet? :v:
come try me and see :ese:

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Crazy Achmed posted:

Also that's a nice looking rapier. How much does it weigh?
no idea. i live in a youth hostel now and don't have a scale. it's slightly heavy though, which is probably better because a delicate sword might get snapped while i'm doing this:
http://live.slagomgrolle.nl/fotos-slag-om-grolle-24-oktober-2015/
http://live.slagomgrolle.nl/fotos-slag-om-grolle-25-oktober-2015/

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Crazy Achmed posted:

Also that's a nice looking rapier. How much does it weigh?
about 2.4 pounds

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