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Hello there, my name is unimportant and I'm here to talk to you wonderful people about the world of selling drugs to people. I have been in business for a consistent seven years now and deal mainly in Marijuana, though I do typically have the means to get whatever tickles whoever's fancy upon request (no I will not sell to you). I've never hosed with Heroin (most commonly referred to as Boy in my area) or Crystal Meth (not sure about slang for this; I'm not from the sticks), Nor Crack. This is a personal rule as I have lost family members to Heroin and Crack, and Meth straight scares the gently caress out of me. Theirs a few other things I've never seen mainly due to them being not widely available in my region, beyond that I've moved a fair amount of LSD, Cocaine, Molly, Mushrooms, Ketamine, and Sass though coke is a pretty lovely hustle at my tier of selling and I wouldn't recommend it unless you enjoy having your phone blow up at five in the loving morning for a $20 transaction. I've also been robbed a fair amount of times; the most recent wherein I rolled over in my bed at 4:30am to see random dude in my bedroom door.  When I'm not doing the hustle I am a bartender in a college town, although the two jobs do tend to intertwine. I got started when I was nineteen, in a town hosed over by the auto industry pulling out, through a friend and mentor. He taught me how to say no to a bad bag, how to get the prices you want to pay and sell for, as well as how to protect myself as best as possible both from the law as well as anyone else that would clean me out if they could (getting robbed is inevitable, it will happen). So far I've been very lucky and have not fallen into any legal trouble, you do this by never taking risks and never selling to strangers, this gets complicated given that you'll constantly have customers referring their friends to you and you have to decide if this person will gently caress up your day if given the opportunity. All in all it's not usually nearly as dangerous or exciting as I make it sound above: You have your trusted clientele, you sell everything down and put the capital back in to do it again. At worst you break even, support whatever habit you may have. At best you have gobs of cash that you spend like it's water. I realize this is a racy thing to post online about; thought it would be an interesting read if nothing else. If the subject matter is too sensitive for the forum I understand. Stay safe out there. Lokee fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Jan 9, 2015 |
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Is the LSD you sell real, or is it random research chemicals? How can you be sure?
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Jan 9, 2015 21:13
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KillHour posted:Is the LSD you sell real, or is it random research chemicals? How can you be sure? e- Test kits are also legal to sell and inexpensive, I know Marijuana testing facilities exist where you can send a sample along and figure out exactly what you've got, not sure about for other drugs. Lokee fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Jan 9, 2015 |
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Jan 9, 2015 21:17
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I was mainly curious because I keep hearing "You're never going to find real LSD. That poo poo's long gone." In other threads. Is it really that hard to get a hold of? How do/did you find your suppliers?
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Jan 9, 2015 21:20
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KillHour posted:I was mainly curious because I keep hearing "You're never going to find real LSD. That poo poo's long gone." In other threads. Is it really that hard to get a hold of? How do/did you find your suppliers? When you're meeting people that you're potentially buying from, no matter the amount, you need to meet the person first if you can. If you're part of their circle to some degree it's way less likely their gonna try to pull a fast one on you. You also benefit from getting to know the person first as it helps you paint a more complete picture of the person you're dealing with. As far as getting in the room with those people in the first place, I've met a lot of people through mutual friends and the like. Lokee fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Jan 9, 2015 |
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Jan 9, 2015 21:25
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How much money do you make annually from this? Do you keep all your cash in like a safe in your house?
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Jan 9, 2015 23:05
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turbomoose posted:How much money do you make annually from this? Do you keep all your cash in like a safe in your house? 
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Jan 9, 2015 23:21
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When you say that you've been robbed, are we talking customers comfortable with being blacklisted after snatching a bag or full on shakedowns/robberies by local criminals?
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Jan 10, 2015 03:55
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Lokee posted:I've never hosed with Heroin (most commonly referred to as Boy in my area) or Crystal Meth (not sure about slang for this; I'm not from the sticks), Nor Crack. You're no drug dealer. You're that petty Wal-Mart thief from the other thread aren't you?
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Jan 10, 2015 09:17
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Is it dro from the states, or do you get it off the brick from Mexico?
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Jan 10, 2015 09:23
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I have a question about the amount of money you make dealing. I had heard somewhere that if you looked at how much dealers make versus the amount of hours (getting calls at ungodly hours for small deals) that you really make less than minimum wage compared to joe fry cook. But as you said you regularly make bank deposits when nearing a grand and reinvest your money in product. So thats not true right? It was likely something I learned in DARE or whatever to keep us all from trying to be Tony Montana?
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Jan 10, 2015 10:10
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Q: Do you have big baller rear end rims? Follow-up Q: What sort of steady clientele do you keep?
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Jan 10, 2015 13:35
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Der Luftwaffle posted:When you say that you've been robbed, are we talking customers comfortable with being blacklisted after snatching a bag or full on shakedowns/robberies by local criminals? The guy who put me up (mentor) was held up a couple times before we parted ways with his own gun; the first time dude actually pulled the trigger against the back of his head and it jammed. He came straight to my place after it happened; I have never seen a man shaking that hard in my entire life. Rap Music and Dope posted:You're no drug dealer. A_Bug_That_Thinks posted:Is it dro from the states, or do you get it off the brick from Mexico? Blackchamber posted:I have a question about the amount of money you make dealing. I had heard somewhere that if you looked at how much dealers make versus the amount of hours (getting calls at ungodly hours for small deals) that you really make less than minimum wage compared to joe fry cook. But as you said you regularly make bank deposits when nearing a grand and reinvest your money in product. Here's some quick, rough, math though to help break it down a bit better: On average I pay between $175 and $200 for an ounce (28g). If I sell off eight eighths(3.5g; the most common amount) at $40 a piece I have my capitol back plus $120 out of it, if I'm paying the higher $200 price. And that's only if I don't have capitol for say a quarter pound as that will bring the cost-per-ounce down even lower, and my prices that I'm selling for don't change. I should mention however that I do usually consume around an eighth a week, but that's an eighth I pay $25 for, not $40. Usually I can flip an ounce in 2-3 days, sometimes faster sometimes slower. Sappo569 posted:Q: Do you have big baller rear end rims?
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Jan 10, 2015 17:48
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Lokee posted:
Ah cool, guess you're not rolling on 24's like our man Doobie is. Also I meant more along the lines of what sort of people do you see coming to you for repeat business, office cubicle worker who just can't sleep at night... coding in the dark waiting for Morpheus to call him?
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Jan 10, 2015 18:11
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Sappo569 posted:Ah cool, guess you're not rolling on 24's like our man Doobie is.
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Jan 10, 2015 19:28
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Lokee posted:Here's some quick, rough, math though to help break it down a bit better: On average I pay between $175 and $200 for an ounce (28g). If I sell off eight eighths(3.5g; the most common amount) at $40 a piece I have my capitol back plus $120 out of it, if I'm paying the higher $200 price. And that's only if I don't have capitol for say a quarter pound as that will bring the cost-per-ounce down even lower, and my prices that I'm selling for don't change. I should mention however that I do usually consume around an eighth a week, but that's an eighth I pay $25 for, not $40. Usually I can flip an ounce in 2-3 days, sometimes faster sometimes slower. Rap Music and Dope posted:You're no drug dealer.
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Jan 10, 2015 19:47
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How much money do you have tied up in drugs at any moment? How long do you intend to deal drugs? Have you used the harder drugs you push, like cocaine or K?
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Jan 10, 2015 19:56
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It always seemed to me that the risk to reward ratio for dealing small time weed isn't worth it. If you're only making a few hundred a week on something that can get you thrown into prison for years, why not at least deal coke or heroin so that your profit margin is higher with similar consequences when getting caught.
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Jan 10, 2015 20:01
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The clientele is way different for weed vs heroin or coke. You're a hell of a lot more likely to get robbed by a heroin addict looking for a fix than you are by a pothead.
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Jan 10, 2015 20:09
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What the hell is Sass?
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Jan 10, 2015 20:15
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Lokee posted:I live in Michigan; after the medical Marijuana boom hit here their were dispensaries for miles in the more populated areas of the state, this caused supply to skyrocket and prices to drop (I went from charging $120 for a quarter-ounce to $80 within a month). When the GOP took the governorship here there was subsequently a huge backlash and crackdown on the wording of the laws, the shutting down of most dispensaries. This lead to if I had to guess three-quarters of all that pot that got grown to hit the black market instead of going through legal channels. It's pretty freaking awesome. Those prices are crazy high, around my neck of the woods, anyway. I recommend you start buying it by the pound. Is it all indoor stuff? Maybe Canada really is the land of marijuana. Prices here: $25-30 for 1/8, $45-60 for 1/4 (usually $50). A pound it varies a lot based on the kind of weed, but between $1000-$2000 for most stuff, can see up to $3000 for the super "primo" weed.
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Jan 10, 2015 22:40
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It is my firmly held belief that, by posting this thread, you are going about it wrong.
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Jan 10, 2015 23:13
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Have you ever let someone know how much dough you hold? I've heard that getting high on your own supply is an issue in your profession, do you have any stories related to that? Are any of your family not kept completely separated from your business?
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Jan 11, 2015 01:07
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 . On the real though there are a lot more people with far more interesting stories than what I'm talking about, I'm barely living it.Kevin DuBrow posted:How much money do you have tied up in drugs at any moment? How long do you intend to deal drugs? Have you used the harder drugs you push, like cocaine or K? MoosetheMooche posted:It always seemed to me that the risk to reward ratio for dealing small time weed isn't worth it. If you're only making a few hundred a week on something that can get you thrown into prison for years, why not at least deal coke or heroin so that your profit margin is higher with similar consequences when getting caught. HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:The clientele is way different for weed vs heroin or coke. You're a hell of a lot more likely to get robbed by a heroin addict looking for a fix than you are by a pothead. Darth Freddy posted:What the hell is Sass? Tsyni posted:Those prices are crazy high, around my neck of the woods, anyway. I recommend you start buying it by the pound. Is it all indoor stuff? Maybe Canada really is the land of marijuana. Prices here: $25-30 for 1/8, $45-60 for 1/4 (usually $50). A pound it varies a lot based on the kind of weed, but between $1000-$2000 for most stuff, can see up to $3000 for the super "primo" weed. Gentwise posted:It is my firmly held belief that, by posting this thread, you are going about it wrong. Tao Jones posted:Have you ever let someone know how much dough you hold? Lokee fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Jan 11, 2015 |
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Jan 11, 2015 03:20
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What do your customers look like?
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Jan 11, 2015 05:42
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Peven Stan posted:What do your customers look like? Yeah, do they wear green and white or maize and blue?
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Jan 11, 2015 05:55
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Is it true drug dealers have no morals, and will stab anyone in the back if it means saving their own skin?
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Jan 11, 2015 05:56
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Have you seen a shift back toward sativas and away from indicas now that the hobbyist market has taken off?
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Jan 11, 2015 07:17
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did you ever see the movie or read about Kid Cannabis?
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Jan 11, 2015 08:03
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Lokee posted:If you don't mind me asking what side of Canada are you on? You have to understand that prices are largely a regional thing determined by both availability as well as how hard the area is willing to prosecute drug offenses. You can spend half as much for weed of equal or greater quality in the more progressive parts of Colorado as you could in similar parts of Michigan, or three times as much for vastly inferior weed if you're talking about anywhere progressive versus anywhere in the bible belt. Major cities such as Chicago and New York typically pay a more premium price, but this is to be expended as people simply have more money due to cost of living. This is on the west coast (Vancouver area) and the east coast (Ottawa area). I totally agree with you about prices being higher in the city.
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Jan 11, 2015 08:08
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You might want to be more careful posting about prices, TCC has strict rules against that kind of thing and you don't want to get in trouble. Have you seen Breaking Bad? What do you think of it?
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Jan 11, 2015 09:00
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You are like the neighborhood pot head who also happens to sell the stuff to pay for his own habit. The smallest of the small fish. I'm willing to bet that most everyone who smokes weed has at one point bought an ounce and sold 3/4 of it to get their bag for free. So probably 75% of pot smoking college students are "drug dealers" by this measure. If your poo poo doesn't come in on pallets/shipping containers/air drops then you ain't no drug dealer pal.
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Jan 11, 2015 17:04
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This is sort of like selling a car on craigslist, then posting a thread "Ask me about being a car salesman".
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Jan 11, 2015 18:08
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Peven Stan posted:What do your customers look like?  BlackIronHeart posted:Yeah, do they wear green and white or maize and blue? Sappo569 posted:Is it true drug dealers have no morals, and will stab anyone in the back if it means saving their own skin? Aliquid posted:Have you seen a shift back toward sativas and away from indicas now that the hobbyist market has taken off? ladron posted:did you ever see the movie or read about Kid Cannabis? Chamale posted:You might want to be more careful posting about prices, TCC has strict rules against that kind of thing and you don't want to get in trouble. PromethiumX posted:You are like the neighborhood pot head who also happens to sell the stuff to pay for his own habit. photomikey posted:This is sort of like selling a car on craigslist, then posting a thread "Ask me about being a car salesman".
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Jan 11, 2015 18:24
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Lokee posted:Firstly you're not wrong, secondly we don't need to import poo poo where I'm at. I have driven with a buddy sitting on two pounds if that's worth anything to you. A lot of dealing these days isn't nearly as romantic as you're making it out to be, it's people doing a job. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Also if you don't think drugs get imported into MI then you are just wrong
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Jan 11, 2015 18:36
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Arnold of Soissons posted:hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha e- That, or you've seen too many movies.
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Jan 11, 2015 18:39
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Yep a massive unpatrolled unfortified border that is hundreds of miles of trees and water. That's a place that no drugs come across. If you think otherwise it's just them drat Hollywood movies the jews make, filling your head up with nonsense.
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OP I'll sell a couple ounces at a time to some of my friends for 5-600$. I'm not a drug dealer. We're just adults and they can afford big amounts. poo poo, I know a kid(who is doing his 3rd or 4th bid atm) that would flip scripts in our podunk town like no other. He'd run through Opanas or 30mg roxys like they were nothing. Pull into his driveway when he got back from seeing a dude and their would be about 5-6 other cars pulling in with me, this was a daily occurrence. I consider him a "drug dealer", but even then he's just some dumb kid that's made bad decisions. When we were 17 he was involved in a DEA sting(he wasn't the main priority, obviously) where he got caught with over 100 ecstasy tabs. He's a "drug dealer" in the smallest sense possible. I'm sorry for bringing you down but this is really stretching the limit of what constitutes an ask/tell(my profession) thread. poo poo, those dudes on SA-mart who would push RC bath salts and poo poo a few years ago are much more of a drug dealer than you are. And they would just order packages from china and redistribute them to goons on SA. Anyway, I would be more interested in hearing about LSD and Phish shows. How easy is it to cop that poo poo at those dirty fests? I bet the prevalence of bad MDMA analogues in incredible if you go to some EDM forest gig or whatever. edit: and OP, a lot of LSD X and other manufactured/synthesized poo poo comes in from Canada. The great lakes are very protective of boats in and out for this very reason. poo poo dude, do you know who Al Capone is? MI is full of imported drugs, you're state has mad heroin moving in and out from NY. Rap Music and Dope fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Jan 11, 2015 |
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Jan 11, 2015 19:16
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What's the easiest thing to slang to make a big profit margin?
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Rap Music and Dope posted:OP I'll sell a couple ounces at a time to some of my friends for 5-600$. I'm not a drug dealer. We're just adults and they can afford big amounts. poo poo, I know a kid(who is doing his 3rd or 4th bid atm) that would flip scripts in our podunk town like no other. He'd run through Opanas or 30mg roxys like they were nothing. Pull into his driveway when he got back from seeing a dude and their would be about 5-6 other cars pulling in with me, this was a daily occurrence. I consider him a "drug dealer", but even then he's just some dumb kid that's made bad decisions. When we were 17 he was involved in a DEA sting(he wasn't the main priority, obviously) where he got caught with over 100 ecstasy tabs. He's a "drug dealer" in the smallest sense possible. The bath salts on SA Mart is something I didn't know had happened, that's loving crazy. I bet you have some more stories worth telling like the one about you're buddy that was selling pharmies. As far as bad analogues at EDM forest gigs: Yeah and these days people aren't even trying to lie to you about selling research chemicals a lot of the time, because people will literally put poo poo into their bodies without thinking twice. Good luck selling 2cb/2ci/2cl outside of those places. "Yeeah man it's just like acid." It's not, gently caress off and die. As for your edit; the whole importing thing came about from this post: PromethiumX posted:You are like the neighborhood pot head who also happens to sell the stuff to pay for his own habit. Lokee posted:Firstly you're not wrong, secondly we don't need to import poo poo where I'm at. I have driven with a buddy sitting on two pounds if that's worth anything to you. A lot of dealing these days isn't nearly as romantic as you're making it out to be, it's people doing a job. Arnold of Soissons posted:hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha To be clear: No I don't think Michigan is some magical land that produces every drug. Rap Music and Dope your post was well articulated and thought out, thank you for taking the time to write it. I welcome the criticism and alternate perspective, and hope you'll keep contributing, whatever you want to call yourself. Lokee fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Jan 11, 2015 |
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