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Whenever people point to certain year regarding the best picture award and say 'this film should have won instead of that film', usually the two most common years I see are 1976, where Rocky won over Taxi Driver, and 1989, where Driving Miss Daisy won over Do the Right Thing. Does anybody have any opinions like this on any other years?
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Jan 18, 2015 17:22
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Wall-E should have been nominated and it should have loving won Best Picture.
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Jan 18, 2015 17:24
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Ego-bot posted:Whenever people point to certain year regarding the best picture award and say 'this film should have won instead of that film', usually the two most common years I see are 1976, where Rocky won over Taxi Driver, and 1989, where Driving Miss Daisy won over Do the Right Thing. The year Crash won (2005?), there were a lot of other good, and nominated films. People get pretty angry over that one.
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Jan 18, 2015 17:34
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Ego-bot posted:Whenever people point to certain year regarding the best picture award and say 'this film should have won instead of that film', usually the two most common years I see are 1976, where Rocky won over Taxi Driver, and 1989, where Driving Miss Daisy won over Do the Right Thing. Another commonly cited one is when How GreenWas My Valley won over Citizen Kane, but I haven't seen the former and so I can't comment.
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Jan 18, 2015 17:54
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Ego-bot posted:1976, where Rocky won over Taxi Driver and Network and All the President's Men, but whatever, Rocky's great. That was a hell of a year.
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Jan 18, 2015 18:11
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How Green Was My Valley is actually pretty awesome (Love the miniarc that essentially has a Fight Club at an elementary school. It brings back fond memories for me of my own youth), but is unfairly remembered as poo poo because it just isn't as good as Citizen Kane which is legitimately one of the single greatest films ever made. Rocky probably should have lost to Taxi Driver (Haven't seen Network but I don't really care for All the President's Men), but Rocky is so much fun that I kind of forgive the Academy for that one.
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Jan 18, 2015 18:12
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Ego-bot posted:Whenever people point to certain year regarding the best picture award and say 'this film should have won instead of that film', usually the two most common years I see are 1976, where Rocky won over Taxi Driver, and 1989, where Driving Miss Daisy won over Do the Right Thing. Here's some Spike Lee flavor regarding the latter snub and Selma's snub: “ ‘But that doesn’t diminish the film. Nobody’s talking about motherfuckin’ Driving Miss Daisy. That film is not being taught in film schools all across the world like Do the Right Thing is. Nobody’s discussing Driving Miss Motherfuckin’ Daisy. So if I saw Ava today I’d say, ‘You know what? gently caress ’em. You made a very good film, so feel good about that and start working on the next one.’ ” From http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...&medium=twitter by way of the Dissolve.
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Jan 18, 2015 18:15
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Ego-bot posted:Whenever people point to certain year regarding the best picture award and say 'this film should have won instead of that film', usually the two most common years I see are 1976, where Rocky won over Taxi Driver, and 1989, where Driving Miss Daisy won over Do the Right Thing. A common one is Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan (or The Thin Red Line). and I guess Chicago over Gangs of New York too.
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Jan 18, 2015 18:27
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Notsosubtle posted:Here's some Spike Lee flavor regarding the latter snub and Selma's snub: It's a goddamn shame that Spike Lee hasn't won a single Oscar.
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Jan 18, 2015 18:29
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Rocky loving deserved that Oscar tho, its a pretty drat good movie. Not saying the others are poo poo but it was a crazy year of good stuff.
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Jan 18, 2015 19:03
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Alhazred posted:It's a goddamn shame that Spike Lee hasn't won a single Oscar. His time was Malcolm X or Do The Right Thing.
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Jan 18, 2015 19:41
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Judakel posted:Don't expect to get more than a token nomination when you do not send out screeners. Screeners were sent out for Selma.
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Jan 18, 2015 20:07
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computer parts posted:A common one is Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan (or The Thin Red Line). These definitely. And the Crash year...holy gently caress. Every other movie deserved it more. And Children of Men wasn't even on the list. I'm still amazed Forrest Gump edged out both Pulp Fiction (expected) AND The Shawshank Redemption. VVVVVVVVVVVV oh yeah it was 79th, my bad. I still don't think it was even represented beyond a nod for Adapted Screenplay. Babel and Pan's Labyrinth got some attention that year. Those three directors were a pretty big force in 2006. Crash was, is, and will continue to be poo poo. But isn't Best Picture a producers award? Basically an acknowledgement that a particular film was a good business decision? Because Crash made more money than all the other nominees, I think. BeanpolePeckerwood fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Jan 18, 2015 |
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Jan 18, 2015 20:10
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second-hand smegma posted:These definitely. I think Children of Men was eligible the year The Departed won. But yeah Crash is poo poo.
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Jan 18, 2015 20:19
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second-hand smegma posted:These definitely. I can deal with Forest Gump because there really isn't anything like it. Children of Men deserves a lot more than it got though. At least Cuaron got some redemption with Gravity.
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Jan 18, 2015 20:53
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computer parts posted:and I guess Chicago over Gangs of New York too. Meh, Gangs of New York is really only memorable for Daniel Day-Lewis performance.
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Jan 18, 2015 21:27
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Alhazred posted:Meh, Gangs of New York is really only memorable for Daniel Day-Lewis performance. I would say every other actor in the film that isn't DiCaprio or Diaz was excellent: Jim Broadbent, Brendan Gleeson, Gary Lewis, etc. The music, sets and costumes are also all stunning.
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Jan 18, 2015 21:30
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I would say every other actor in the film that isn't DiCaprio or Diaz was excellent: Jim Broadbent, Brendan Gleeson, Gary Lewis, etc. The problem is that Scorsese insists on making DiCaprio or Diaz the main focus of the movie. If the movie was about Bill the Butcher instead of those two the movie would've been goddamn amazing.
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Jan 18, 2015 21:53
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I definitely agree. But I think it's doing that movie a tremendous disservice to say DDL is the ONLY memorable thing about it.
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Jan 18, 2015 21:55
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I definitely agree. But I think it's doing that movie a tremendous disservice to say DDL is the ONLY memorable thing about it. True, it also have an elephant suddenly appearing because why the gently caress not.
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Jan 18, 2015 21:58
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Alhazred posted:The problem is that Scorsese insists on making DiCaprio or Diaz the main focus of the movie. If the movie was about Bill the Butcher instead of those two the movie would've been goddamn amazing. Just caught some of Gangs of New York on TV earlier and this is the drat truth. The parts with Leo and Diaz suck so bad in the film. I cannot understand Marty's thought process on a lot of this movie. I wanted the opening gang fight to be the movie, not what we got! Gangs of New York is however one of the best productions with amazing sets and photography. I got so angry when Avatar won years ago but since then I've not much cared about the Oscars. I much rather care about the thoughts of the esteemed internet.
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Jan 18, 2015 22:01
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Um, because the circus was on fire! That's straight out of the book.
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Jan 18, 2015 22:01
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Howling Man posted:
Avatar didn't, that was Hurt Locker year.
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Jan 18, 2015 22:13
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I would say every other actor in the film that isn't DiCaprio or Diaz was excellent: Jim Broadbent, Brendan Gleeson, Gary Lewis, etc. The music, sets and costumes are also all stunning. Honestly, those two were the weakest links...but their performances are fine in the grand scheme, and I can't think of many roles for either of their careers that have aged better. If anything, they help to highlight DDL and make him stand out. The only downright lovely thing about that movie is the slamfest ending with U2 guitars and a CG fade-in of the World Trade Center.
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Jan 18, 2015 22:18
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Let's just give everything to Imitation Game and Theory of Everything. gently caress it, right? Let the Oscars eat themselves.
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Jan 18, 2015 22:19
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second-hand smegma posted:Honestly, those two were the weakest links...but their performances are fine in the grand scheme, and I can't think of many roles for either of their careers that have aged better. If anything, they help to highlight DDL and make him stand out. Whenever I rewatch the movie I just skip that part.
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Jan 18, 2015 22:20
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Pirate Jet posted:Let's just give everything to Imitation Game and Theory of Everything. gently caress it, right? Let the Oscars eat themselves. Are either of those actually good (even for Oscar Bait) or are they just relying on the usual stuff to get nominations everywhere?
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Jan 18, 2015 22:47
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:His time was Malcolm X or Do The Right Thing. it was cool when they finally gave Denzel Washington his Malcom X Oscar for Training Day
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Jan 18, 2015 22:55
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computer parts posted:Avatar didn't, that was Hurt Locker year. Should have been District 9. 
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Jan 18, 2015 23:13
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Ego-bot posted:Whenever people point to certain year regarding the best picture award and say 'this film should have won instead of that film', usually the two most common years I see are 1976, where Rocky won over Taxi Driver, and 1989, where Driving Miss Daisy won over Do the Right Thing. Dances with Wolves over Goodfellas, Ordinary People over Raging Bull. loving Oliver! over a stacked 1968 field that included 2001 is probably the worst.
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Jan 18, 2015 23:52
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Ego-bot posted:Whenever people point to certain year regarding the best picture award and say 'this film should have won instead of that film', usually the two most common years I see are 1976, where Rocky won over Taxi Driver, and 1989, where Driving Miss Daisy won over Do the Right Thing. Star wars over Annie loving hall
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Jan 19, 2015 00:36
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Ego-bot posted:Whenever people point to certain year regarding the best picture award and say 'this film should have won instead of that film', usuall1976y the two most common years I see are 1976, where Rocky won over Taxi Driver, and 1989, where Driving Miss Daisy won over Do the Right Thing. 1976 was one of the greatest years in movie history.
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Jan 19, 2015 00:44
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Another commonly cited one is when How GreenWas My Valley won over Citizen Kane, but I haven't seen the former and so I can't comment. For what it's worth, Orson Welles was a huge fan of John Ford. I just finished My Lunches with Orson (book of recorded conversations between Welles and Henry Jaglom) and he gushes over How Green Was My Valley as one of Ford's best films.
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Jan 19, 2015 01:13
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Gangs of New York is dope. The buildup to that opening fight owns hard.
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Jan 19, 2015 02:06
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computer parts posted:Are either of those actually good (even for Oscar Bait) or are they just relying on the usual stuff to get nominations everywhere? Imitation Game is enjoyable for what it is (and probably more enjoyable the less you know/care about Turing). It tells its story pretty well, nothing too wonderful, but not all that bad. Keira Knightley really is fantastic and deserves her nomination; I don't quite get why Cumberbatch gets one because the character is all over the place and he only occasionally makes it work. I haven't seen Theory of Everything.
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Jan 19, 2015 03:06
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computer parts posted:Are either of those actually good (even for Oscar Bait) or are they just relying on the usual stuff to get nominations everywhere? Haven't seen the Hawkins film yet, but Imitation Game was completely mid of the road Oscar bait. Thankully Boyhood is going to wn so it's no biggie
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Jan 19, 2015 03:09
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I'm really really really really surprised Nightcrawler got snubbed so bad. After leaving the theater I thought Gyllenhaal was a shoe-in. One more reason to hate Benetit FartyBatch
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Jan 19, 2015 03:48
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Kangra posted:Imitation Game is enjoyable for what it is (and probably more enjoyable the less you know/care about Turing). It tells its story pretty well, nothing too wonderful, but not all that bad. Keira Knightley really is fantastic and deserves her nomination; I don't quite get why Cumberbatch gets one because the character is all over the place and he only occasionally makes it work. I haven't seen Theory of Everything. I've seen Theory of Everything; it's... OK for what it is, which is a relationship movie about Hawking and his relationship to his ex-wife. I don't really remember anything about Felicity Jones' performance that was particularly spectacular, but Eddie Redmayne was really good at portraying somebody with worsening ALS, so I guess I wouldn't mind if he won Best Actor. (I'm still pulling for Keaton out of that crowd though. Gyllenhaal was robbed too.)
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Jan 19, 2015 04:47
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AGirlWonder posted:The year Crash won (2005?), there were a lot of other good, and nominated films. People get pretty angry over that one. I remember that was the first year I watched all the nominees before the ceremony. The others were Munich, Brokeback Mountain, Capote, and Good Night and Good Luck. Any of those would've been more worthy, but Munich probably the most so. Shame that film has kind of been forgotten over time because it's incredible. Easily in Spielberg's "A" canon in my opinion.
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Jan 19, 2015 17:19
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Rocky isn't better than Taxi Driver, but that's because Taxi Driver is one of the greatest films ever made. But by no means is it winning an upset in the sense of crap like Driving Miss Daisy or Crash winning. Rocky is a fantastic film in its own right that's often misremembered as being more jubilant and inspirational that it actually is. Rocky is a mean, brutal film about poverty and depression and trying to do something worthwhile with a life you feel is worthless. That Rocky makes him losing a triumphant moment is a testament to how expertly crafted it is. Not better than Taxi Driver, but not it's not a case of fluff winning over serious art or anything.
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