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Necc0
Jun 30, 2005

by exmarx
Broken Cake
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2015-01-15/apple-google-agree-to-415-million-in-antitrust-hiring-deal-1-.html

Apple Inc. (AAPL) and Google Inc. (GOOGL) agreed to a $415 million settlement, $90.5 million more than a previously rejected accord, to end an embarrassing chapter of litigation showing how they and other Silicon Valley companies conspired to avoid hiring one another’s employees.

The agreement, first disclosed Jan. 13 with no details on terms and filed today in full, requires the approval of U.S. District Judge Lucy H. Koh in San Jose, California, who in August rejected the initial $324.5 million accord on grounds it didn’t offer enough money for affected workers.

Koh said the companies, which include Adobe Systems Inc. (ADBE) and Intel Corp. (INTC), should pay at least $380 million given “ample evidence” of antitrust violations that might result in damages of more than $9 billion if the case went to a jury.

For the companies, approval of the new accord would avoid the risk of a trial scheduled for April and finish off a 2011 lawsuit that produced troves of internal e-mails detailing anticompetitive agreements among the chief executive officers at technology giants.

The four months it took to hammer out the new agreement suggests “serious sustained negotiation” between the two sides, Orly Lobel, a law professor at University of San Diego who specializes in labor and employment issues, said in an e-mail.

“My prediction is she will approve the settlement,” Lobel said, referring to Koh. “It is not a bad result even if it is still fairly low relative to the potential high win when a trial proceeds. But that’s typical for settlements.”
Adobe Employee

One of the objections to the original settlement was filed by former Adobe employee Michael Devine, who left the company in 2008 and was a lead plaintiff in the case. Devine’s lawyer, Daniel Girard, argued that if workers’ lawyers hadn’t initially agreed to settle for an average payout of about $3,572, they could have won damages at trial of as much as $141,331 each.

Daniel Girard, a lawyer representing Devine, said the new settlement comes out to about $6,400 for each employee. Girard said that when a San Francisco-based appeals court agreed in September to consider the companies’ request to overrule Koh’s rejection of the initial settlement, it presented a “meaningful risk.” That factored into Devine’s decision to support the $415 million agreement, Girard said.

Devine “has signed on to the settlement but he believes everyone should make their own assessment,” Girard said. “We believe this is the maximum number that can be obtained at this point in the litigation.”

Kristin Huguet, a spokeswoman for Cupertino, California-based Apple, and Aaron Stein, a spokesman for Mountain View, California-based Google, declined to comment on the new settlement agreement.

Rejections of antitrust settlements are rare, especially when objections are based on the amount and not the law. The rejected settlement would have given the employees’ lawyers $81 million in fees plus $1.2 million in costs.

Intuit Inc., Walt Disney Co. (DIS)’s Pixar animation studio and visual-effects specialist Lucasfilm Ltd. previously settled with the workers for $20 million.

The case is In re High-Tech Employee Antitrust Litigation, 11-cv-02509, U.S. District Court, Northern District of California (San Jose).

To contact the reporter on this story: Joel Rosenblatt in San Francisco at jrosenblatt@bloomberg.net

To contact the editors responsible for this story: Michael Hytha at mhytha@bloomberg.net Peter Blumberg, David Glovin

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Necc0
Jun 30, 2005

by exmarx
Broken Cake
[crowd starts chanting 'NO DEAL' ]

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!
pity bump

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.
Lol if you arn't an investment banker

Necc0
Jun 30, 2005

by exmarx
Broken Cake
pretty shameful that this story has largely been flying under the radar. only the microsoft nerds can smugly point out this story but there aren't any of them left. all other nerds see their idols with dirty hands and would rather pretend like this doesn't exist

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
everyone already knows steve jobs was a horrible person

Necc0
Jun 30, 2005

by exmarx
Broken Cake
do no evil :iamafag:

black man 3
Oct 29, 2014

by XyloJW

Shaggar posted:

everyone already knows steve jobs was a horrible person

That moron died because he was too stupid to realise the benefits of cancer treatment over eating fruit all day. Lol

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug
I still stand by my idea that tech companies don't turn completely hilariously evil until they hire their first MBA

after that it's drinking cups of orphan blood

Captain Pike
Jul 29, 2003

Necc0 posted:

only the microsoft nerds can smugly point out this story but there aren't any of them left.

We're still here, we're just polite. :wotwot:

Jenny Agutter
Mar 18, 2009

maybe now that tech workers have seen the contempt that their managers have for them and the lack of real restitution from the legal system they will form a union to repreaaaaaaahahahahahahahahha

black man 3
Oct 29, 2014

by XyloJW

Busta Chimes.wav posted:

maybe now that tech workers have seen the contempt that their managers have for them and the lack of real restitution from the legal system they will form a union to repreaaaaaaahahahahahahahahha

Yes the wages of the average IT worker which are typically very low definitely necessitates the formation of a union.

black man 3
Oct 29, 2014

by XyloJW
Just took some time off from my six figgy job to go to the union meeting for underpaid IT workers with balls the size of peanuts

Jenny Agutter
Mar 18, 2009

black man 3 posted:

Yes the wages of the average IT worker which are typically very low definitely necessitates the formation of a union.

yes the wages of the ceos of apple, google, disney etc. which are typically very low definitely necessitates illegal wage fixing agreements

black man 3
Oct 29, 2014

by XyloJW

Busta Chimes.wav posted:

yes the wages of the ceos of apple, google, disney etc. which are typically very low definitely necessitates illegal wage fixing agreements

Stfu lol.

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

what if you had an actual peanut for a scrotum. imagine your little nuts rattling around in there. i'm imagining it and it's more upsetting than arousing, tbh

PleasingFungus
Oct 10, 2012
idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off

As a Millennial I posted:

what if you had an actual peanut for a scrotum. imagine your little nuts rattling around in there. i'm imagining it and it's more upsetting than arousing, tbh

nuts inside nuts...............

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
programmers and it workers are vastly overpaid for their efforts especially since they do not Do Labor

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
surely they could throw a cool million my way and no one would be worse off but i would be much better off


fuckin selfish pricks

Stymie posted:

programmers and it workers are vastly overpaid for their efforts especially since they do not Do Labor

i agree and do not agree. are you a socalism

Jenny Agutter
Mar 18, 2009

Stymie posted:

programmers and it workers are vastly overpaid for their efforts especially since they do not Do Labor

steve jobs was a real socialist hero for trying to reign in programmer wages

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




black man 3 posted:

That moron died because he was too stupid to realise the benefits of cancer treatment over eating fruit all day. Lol

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

black man 3 posted:

That moron died because he was too stupid to realise the benefits of cancer treatment over eating fruit all day. Lol

tbf drugs kill a lot of people

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




so does time

makes fools of us all





right time to get out of bed and go eat some bacon! :yum:

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Displeased Moo Cow posted:

so does time

makes fools of us all





right time to get out of bed and go eat some bacon! :yum:

lame i already had my bacon

i was up at 6.30. hung out washing. wife got home from night shift. made her bacon buttie. now she is alseep and its meant to go to 31 today and she has to sleep all day

black man 3
Oct 29, 2014

by XyloJW

echinopsis posted:

tbf drugs kill a lot of people

Thanks for the observation guy who wears makeup all the time.

emoji
Jun 4, 2004

black man 3 posted:

Thanks for the observation guy who wears makeup all the time.

echinopsis is one of the good ones

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

black man 3 posted:

Thanks for the observation guy who wears makeup all the time.

lol i did it once. thanks for being a dick

theadder
Dec 30, 2011


lol

theadder
Dec 30, 2011


we dont care about this gas this thread punish op by making him ik

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




echinopsis posted:

lame i already had my bacon

i was up at 6.30. hung out washing. wife got home from night shift. made her bacon buttie. now she is alseep and its meant to go to 31 today and she has to sleep all day

I made a bacon butte too it was good sucks to be you, kids were up at six this morning but I just chucked some breakfast in a bowl and switched on the tv and went back to bed.


that's parenting.

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

black man 3 posted:

That moron died because he was too stupid to realise the benefits of cancer treatment over eating fruit all day. Lol

Yea. He was a loving moron piece of poo poo. YOSPOS worships him because they're even stupider than someone who thought eating fruit cured cancer.

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




hugs cure cancer dipshit

lampey
Mar 27, 2012

Necc0 posted:

Koh said the companies, which include Adobe Systems Inc. (ADBE) and Intel Corp. (INTC), should pay at least $380 million given “ample evidence” of antitrust violations that might result in damages of more than $9 billion if the case went to a jury...



One of the objections to the original settlement was filed by former Adobe employee Michael Devine, who left the company in 2008 and was a lead plaintiff in the case. Devine’s lawyer, Daniel Girard, argued that if workers’ lawyers hadn’t initially agreed to settle for an average payout of about $3,572, they could have won damages at trial of as much as $141,331 each.

Daniel Girard, a lawyer representing Devine, said the new settlement comes out to about $6,400 for each employee.
I dont understand, this settlement, they are paying out 1/10th of the "damages"? Why would they accept a settlement that is not meaningfully changing their lives when they are making 6 figures and could potentially get a huge payout?

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

I don't get it either unless there's some sort of backdoor deal for the original plaintiffs

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Necc0 posted:

[crowd starts chanting 'NO DEAL' ]

maniacdevnull
Apr 18, 2007

FOUR CUBIC FRAMES
DISPROVES SOFT G GOD
YOU ARE EDUCATED STUPID

Necc0 posted:

[crowd starts chanting 'NO DEAL' ]

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Stymie posted:

programmers and it workers are vastly overpaid for their efforts especially since they do not Do Labor

this is true but at the same time any money taken from people like jobs and sergei is good

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
everyone on the teams in question should have been making millions

maniacdevnull
Apr 18, 2007

FOUR CUBIC FRAMES
DISPROVES SOFT G GOD
YOU ARE EDUCATED STUPID

finally with this settlement america can enter a new dawn as a workers paradise *is still at work at 9pm*

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angry_keebler
Jul 16, 2006

In His presence the mountains quake and the hills melt away; the earth trembles and its people are destroyed. Who can stand before His fierce anger?

echinopsis posted:

now she is alseep and its meant to go to 31 today and she has to sleep all day

then turn on the heater so she won't freeze dummy

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