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Decided to finally check out Dune tonight while my Twin Peaks-inspired Showtime subscription was still active. I knew it got a mixed reception from both Lynch fans and fans of the book, but I never imagined a movie that features Coop, Big Ed and Captain Picard riding a giant sand worm could be so boring. The sets and costumes were fantastic, but I couldn't force myself to care about these wooden characters, and I could barely stay awake. The constant expository voice over was a real bummer too. I don't think I'll want to watch this again for many years. I still need to see The Elephant Man, Wild at Heart and The Straight Story to finish off his feature films.
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It's a loving crime that Dune was so boring, especially since Jodorowsky's Dune made it seem like that could've been the craziest sci-fi movie ever made. Although that wasn't going to happen, but still, with Lynch and some of his favorite actors at the helm, it should've been better than it was. Elephant Man, Wild at Heart and The Straight Story are all wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better than Dune, which is unquestionably my least favorite Lynch film.
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Sep 25, 2017 05:41
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Dune, Lost Highway and Inland Empire are the only Lynch films I have left to see. I don't know which one to start with.
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Sep 25, 2017 06:02
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SleepCousinDeath posted:Dune, Lost Highway and Inland Empire are the only Lynch films I have left to see. I don't know which one to start with. It's only for the most hardcore of Lynch fans, and even then it's not easy to watch.
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Sep 25, 2017 06:08
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Inland Empire isn't for everyone, but it's my favorite thing he's ever done. It's so abrasive and ugly; you really have to set aside 3 hours in a pitch black room and just stew in it. Calling a Lynch film dreamlike feels redundant, but it really is like stepping into someone's nightmare. Walking into an empty theater to watch IE in daylight and walking out completely bewildered long after sunset is the highlight of my movie-going career. Edit: Unrelated, but I've had this song on repeat since I finished TP Season 3. I think the majority of Lynch's music kind of sucks, but I like how the same themes and motifs keep showing up, no matter what medium he's working in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxEk44Zj5Kw Lester Shy fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Sep 25, 2017 |
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Sep 25, 2017 06:33
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Seeing Mother! reminded me of how David Lynch would describe what IE was about when asked. All he'd say was it was about "a woman in trouble", which, yeah, in the most basic terms imaginable, that's what it's about, though it's way deeper and more heavily nuanced than just that. You could say the same for Mother! Mother! is also about a woman in trouble, though that doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of what it's about. I feel like telling someone to watch IE or Mother! with only that as a plot description would be a masterful troll. They'd have no clue what they were in for.
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Sep 25, 2017 06:39
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SleepCousinDeath posted:Dune, Lost Highway and Inland Empire are the only Lynch films I have left to see. I don't know which one to start with. Lost Highway INLAND EMPIRE Don't watch Dune.
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Sep 25, 2017 12:29
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If your public library system offers access to Hoopla, a free service with streaming movies and downloadable e-books (including hundreds of graphic novels from every major publisher except Marvel), Lost Highway is on there, so you can watch it for free. I've seen every Lynch movie now except The Elephant Man. Aside from the Twin Peaks series taken as a whole, my favorite of his works is Mulholland Drive, followed by the underrated Wild at Heart. I didn't hate Dune, but I never read the books or had any other frame of reference for it. Back when Inland Empire was on Netflix a few years ago, it took me three separate sittings, weeks apart, to get through it.
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Sep 25, 2017 13:34
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I think I would have enjoyed Inland Empire in a theater but at home I absolutely could never get into it. More than anything Lynch has done it really feels intended to be watched in complete isolation. Even still it's got a few really strong scenes.
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A True Jar Jar Fan posted:I think I would have enjoyed Inland Empire in a theater but at home I absolutely could never get into it. More than anything Lynch has done it really feels intended to be watched in complete isolation. If you get a chance, definitely watch it in a theater. I saw it when it came out, then again last month, and both times had exactly the same effect on me.
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Sep 25, 2017 15:51
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I probably won't ever watch Dune because I don't like hard sci-fi and it sounds real bad. I think I can handle that one gap in Lynch's filmography.
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Sep 25, 2017 18:48
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Dune is extremely far from hard sci-fi
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Y'all are doing yourselves a serious disservice by not seeing Sting in a codpiece.
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I think Dune is worth watching to see which parts of his style remain intact in a big studio production. You can also see what a theoretical David Lynch Return of the Jedi would have been like (i.e. not very good). They would never have let him make Eraserhead in Space or whatever it is people fantasize about.
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Sep 26, 2017 07:17
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The Navigator puppet looks pretty cool And thank God Kyle Machlachlan's career survived that(because Lynch put him in Blue Velvet)
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The Vosgian Beast posted:The Navigator puppet looks pretty cool
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david_a posted:the clothes the Guild people wear are made out of morgue body bags. Previously-used body bags! quote:The suits worn by the Guild members were body bags that were found in a disused fire station dating back to the early 1920's. The bags had actually been used several times, something that was kept from the cast members until after shooting was completed. After finishing TP season 3, I've been thinking a lot about why I like Lynch so much, and one thing that keeps popping up is his ability to make really mundane things so frightening or menacing. The ceiling fan, the bum behind Winkie's, Bob is just a guy in a denim jacket, etc. Even the "experiment" is pretty tame compared to something like a Xenomorph. I think it's a big reason why his work feels so authentically dreamlike. I never have nightmares about cliche movie monsters chasing me, but I definitely have bad dreams about certain objects or people feeling "wrong."
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Lester Shy posted:but I definitely have bad dreams about certain objects or people feeling "wrong." This is the entire finale and even after 17 hours of Lynchian madness it was still incredibly chilling, moreso due to the lack of his usual grotesqueries.
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I haven't been paying attention to Twin Peaks S3 at all since I didn't have Showtime and I didn't want to spoil anything but I assume it's over now. What is the thread's take on it? I heard complaints that it got too Lynchian for some people, but one of those people hadn't seen anything by Lynch before so he probably had no idea what to expect.
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It's cool and good. Just don't go in expecting early 90's Lynch- it's more in line with his later stuff.
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Much like Inland Empire, it's one of the most Lynchian things Lynch has ever done and it's super inaccessible to anyone but hardcore Lynch fans a lot of the time. That said, it loving rules and I love it more and more the more I think about it. It's kind of insane that something like that was allowed to exist at all in 2017.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Much like Inland Empire, it's one of the most Lynchian things Lynch has ever done and it's super inaccessible to anyone but hardcore Lynch fans a lot of the time. That said, it loving rules and I love it more and more the more I think about it. It's kind of insane that something like that was allowed to exist at all in 2017. I agree and disagree. I'm a hardcore Lynch fan, and I loved it. I watched every episode with two friends who only had seen S1 & 2 and Fire Walk With Me, and hadn't watched any other Lynch films, and they also loved it, though had conflicting opinions here and there. And there were a lot of hardcore Lynch fans that hated how it ended. It's good. Go for it.
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If you have no Twin Peaks experience, you'll be completely lost in S3 on a plot level, BUT if you generally enjoy Lynch then you should be able to enjoy it even without understanding what the hell is going on. The ultimate Twin Peaks S3 experience is to have seen the whole series AND most of his films as well because then it's like two of the best flavors mixed together. You get all the cryptic metaphorical poo poo that you'd find in Mulholland Drive or Inland Empire, but if you are a Twin Peaks nerd that knowledge allows you to scratch a bit further beneath the surface than what you're used to with Lynch(at least it feels that way). You can piece together explanations for things that normally would just hang out there as random weirdness if you have a good memory for the original series. And that's fun to do, especially after 25 years of no Twin Peaks.
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If there's a Scale of Lynchiness, where The Straight Story is a 1 and Inland Empire is a 10, I'd say Season 3 is an 8.5. It has some of the most bizarre and inaccessible stuff he's ever done, but it's built on a solid foundation that most people could enjoy with the right mindset. It's the only show I've ever seen where I had literally no idea what would happen episode-to-episode, which is justification enough for watching it IMO.
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The cool thing about having watched other Lynch films too is you'll appreciate the reuse of certain aesthetic elements from his older works. Stuff like the nighttime driving scenes are right out of Lost Highway, then the black and white sequences from episode 8 harkening back to Eraserhead, etc. Though I imagine experiencing those for the first time can be amazing in its own right too.
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I rewatched Lost Highway for the first time in ~10 years tonight. For whatever reason, it still doesn't do much for me. All the stuff I like about his other movies is present, but the plot feels too contrived, and I can't stand Pullman, Arquette or Getty. It's also extremely 90s in a way that I find really unpleasant.
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The man who's name I forgot with the camera, the entire first part, RAMMESTEIN, or the hotel did nothing for you? That movie had a lot of memorable moments that add up to something special.
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Oh yeah, there are definitely scenes and ideas I liked (everything with Robert Blake, the insane sax solo), but the full picture just falls flat for me, especially whenever Getty is on screen. I found all the Rammstein kind of goofy, but the Bowie song ruled.
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Aside from Robert Blake at the party, the only thing I remember about Lost HigRAMM. STEIN.
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I saw it on 35mm a couple months ago and really liked a lot of it, but the biggest issue for me is that the main story is just too straightforward for too long.
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One thing I wish for is for Lynch to do just a hard horror movie because he's so effortlessly good at creating it. I can just see a picture of Robert Blake in LH or anything from the Black Lodge and the scenes instantly pop in my mind and creep me out.
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Lost Highway feels a tad more commercial than most of his other films, (just the music maybe?) maybe lesser or transitional due to not having had reams and reams written about it like BV and MD.
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The Robert Blake stuff is incredibly creepy and made even creepier by the fact that that actor murdered his wife in real life  Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-QnnLudkQA
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My favourite little boutique cinema is showing Mulholland Dr. next month! I've never seen any of Lynch's films on the big screen so I'm super excited for this. Now to find somebody who's never seen it to go along with me...
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loving Jim Belushi is in the new Twins Peaks?
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Super Fan posted:loving Jim Belushi is in the new Twins Peaks?
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He's just the worst in just about everything I've seen him in.
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Super Fan posted:He's just the worst in just about everything I've seen him in. He becomes one of the best characters and becomes audience surrogate at points.
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Franchescanado posted:He becomes one of the best characters and becomes audience surrogate at points. Yeah, Belushi's character and the characters associated with him deserve their own spinoff. They were far and away my favorite parts of the season, and I would love to spend more time with them.
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Astrochicken posted:Aside from Robert Blake at the party, the only thing I remember about Lost HigRAMM. STEIN. "You like porno?"
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