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Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer

Ok Comboomer posted:

The eggs or the babies?

The babies. They ignored the eggs.

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trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Ok Comboomer posted:

This scorpion’s such an rear end in a top hat goddamn. I’m just chilling and phoneposting like you do and the little poo poo’s trying to sting me through the enclosure plastic.

Piggy Smalls
Jun 21, 2015



BOSS MAKES A DOLLAR,
YOU MAKE A DIME,
I'LL LICK HIS BOOT TILL THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS SHINE.

Hey Goons. Where’s a good online place to buy reptiles? I’ve tried to research places and some say a certain. Place is good but another says it’s bad. Confusing info out there.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Piggy Smalls posted:

Hey Goons. Where’s a good online place to buy reptiles? I’ve tried to research places and some say a certain. Place is good but another says it’s bad. Confusing info out there.

Where are you looking to buy?

Piggy Smalls
Jun 21, 2015



BOSS MAKES A DOLLAR,
YOU MAKE A DIME,
I'LL LICK HIS BOOT TILL THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS SHINE.

Ok Comboomer posted:

Where are you looking to buy?

Was thinking of another Cham or even a Tegu.

snake and bake
Feb 23, 2005

:theroni:

Piggy Smalls posted:

Hey Goons. Where’s a good online place to buy reptiles? I’ve tried to research places and some say a certain. Place is good but another says it’s bad. Confusing info out there.

I wouldn't buy online from any big reptile wholesaler. They just flip animals for profit. IMO they really aren't much better than buying a herp from a pet store. (Where do you think the pet store gets their stock from?)

It's always best to buy direct from a breeder. Reptile shows are great for this. Unfortunately due to the pandemic, most of the reptile shows have been cancelled. I got an email from Repticon that they're starting back up (in Florida at least, not sure where else) but with the risk and all major restrictions they have planned with limited entry and closing every 2 hours for vendors to disinfect their booths, I'm not sure how many people still plan to attend.

Have you looked at MorphMarket? https://www.morphmarket.com/us/c/reptiles/lizards/other-lizards/index

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
The emerald scales kid occasionally gets tegus but idk that I’d ever buy from him...





They are rescues/rehomes, tho, which is ethically nice. But I’d second the breeder/show route for sure. You can also find breeders online and research them/get in touch that way. People are looking to find buyers for their animals now that this season’s shows have been cancelled

nostrata
Apr 27, 2007

Not a pet but I have a new garden buddy. Looks like he just ate.

Hopefully he can help me keep the chipmunk population in check, or at least away from my plants.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Piggy Smalls posted:

Was thinking of another Cham or even a Tegu.

your better off waiting and going to a con or a small/weird pet shop rather than online shops.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
Welp. This feeding has been....productive so far.

My tongs are both too short and too firm for the kind of feeding I was hoping to do, which is fine because I just dropped a mealworm into the temp Kritter Keeper enclosure I put the scorp in for feeding and it didn’t even take ten seconds for the scorpion to have the mealworm’s rear end end in its mouth.

Now it’s been about 15 minutes and the mealworm’s tired of flailing but still very much alive and the scorpion’s just been sitting there holding it in its first jaws like a macabre agonized doobie

Maybe it feels threatened/cold? I’ll give it some space and put a heat mat under it.





apologies for the free GIF app watermark

Update: heat pad seems appreciated, scorp’s just about finished eating the whole worm. Gonna try a second in a bit.

Edit:

Ok Comboomer posted:

Homie ‘et the second worm

Ok Comboomer posted:

Three worms. Ah ah ah

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 23:01 on May 24, 2020

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

I'm going to call a vet in the morning but I need an opinion tonight, I just got home and noticed my leopard gecko possibly vomited blood? I guess?

I don't see he's missing digits, I don't see he's got bite marks on his surface area or tail or anything

But there was a decent amount of blood in his water dish and, kind of all over the cage really, like, specks of blood. I don't think he bled from pooping too hard, but it does seem like he had a rather large bowel movement which is new?

I fed him about a week ago and he's about 5 years old. Could he have just pushed too hard? he has fresh water

The only thing I can think of is the humidity has been too high in my apartment but I'm getting a dehumidifier soon (next week) and the air conditioning is running to try and mitigate it.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

GreenBuckanneer posted:

I'm going to call a vet in the morning but I need an opinion tonight, I just got home and noticed my leopard gecko possibly vomited blood? I guess?

I don't see he's missing digits, I don't see he's got bite marks on his surface area or tail or anything

But there was a decent amount of blood in his water dish and, kind of all over the cage really, like, specks of blood. I don't think he bled from pooping too hard, but it does seem like he had a rather large bowel movement which is new?

I fed him about a week ago and he's about 5 years old. Could he have just pushed too hard? he has fresh water

The only thing I can think of is the humidity has been too high in my apartment but I'm getting a dehumidifier soon (next week) and the air conditioning is running to try and mitigate it.

Excess humidity shouldn't make your lizard pass blood. If there's no visible blood or injury on the animal's body and it looks like they were dripping blood then yeah it likely came from their mouth or cloaca/butt. Gonna have to talk to a vet about that ASAP. Right now the best thing you can do is observe for any behavioral changes or signs and really try to figure out where the blood came/is coming from.

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 05:16 on May 31, 2020

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

Ok Comboomer posted:

Excess humidity shouldn't make your lizard pass blood. If there's no visible blood or injury on the animal's body and it looks like they were dripping blood then yeah it likely came from their mouth or cloaca/butt. Gonna have to talk to a vet about that ASAP. Right now the best thing you can do is observe for any behavioral changes or signs and really try to figure out where the blood came/is coming from.

Blood does NOT seem to be butt blood related, I took him out and he make kind of like a retching open mouth thing and then shook his head back and forth and sprayed blood everywhere. He's walking around, though he seems tired, understandably

I've called a few places and my closest bet is 2 1/2 hours away in boston so that sucks.

Edit: drove to Angell and brought him in. Really disappointed they didn't take him in immediately and wasted time getting me checked in first

Edit2: gently caress. That is all. gently caress.

GreenBuckanneer fucked around with this message at 11:16 on May 31, 2020

Mocking Bird
Aug 17, 2011
How's your little dude? :(

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

Mocking Bird posted:

How's your little dude? :(

The vet said it was either cancer, an ulcer, or something wrong with his GI tract. He wasn't the specialist per se, but it was like 5am and the reptile specialist "team" weren't going to be in until 8am and he gave me some options, such as saying it would be $1400-2600 for 3-5 days of hospitalization for them to figure out what was going wrong, and even then the outlook wasn't good. He had fluid in his stomach and they did an ultrasound I think.

I decided to have him put down because it sounded like even if I had tried I wouldn't have been able to help him. Shortly after he passed before they could do anything.

I was only away for a few hours, he looked fine before I left, and I came back and he was having blood pooling in his mouth and he'd shake his head to get rid of it, he ate a week ago and pooped recently too.

I told the vet and the reptile sanctuary everything and they said I didn't do anything wrong, just, he was likely hiding his symptoms until it was too late and there's nothing I could have done about it.

This month has been absolutely terrible for me, world issues aside.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

I'm really sorry, GreenBuckanneer. It's horrible when you have to go through stuff like this. It's just... one of the rare but possible things with keeping any pets, but with the risks a little higher with exotic pets.

This is the darker side of nature I guess. Animals do this in the wild, too, we just rarely witness it. I hope you can accept that you gave your little guy a good life, with all the amenities and luxuries any lizard could hope for.

Mocking Bird
Aug 17, 2011
RIP little dude, you had a human that really cared about you :smithcloud:

Goons Are Gifts
Jan 1, 1970

Hello herps!
You might remember me asking for advice in the most annoying way possible by Not Having An Idea At All, but now after spending much of my free time learning and reading and preparing, I finally am ready to present my decision on what new little and potentially dangerous friend I got:


Androctonus Australis Hector, which is the black color version, a scorpion species from the Sahara. He's still a baby, barely a centimeter in length and very scared currently. He dug a hole and is hiding in there beneath a rock, the ride wasn't too pleasant for him.

He's very venomous and can be dangerous to humans, plus raising them always offers the chance of something going wrong due to wrong heat/humidity, so I hope I can do this right! Very excited to see him again once he feels a bit safer.

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
Smelled something bad from the sand boa cages today. I imagined it was probably Nemesis, my 15 year old male who has been off feed for a while. Nope, he eyed me warily. It was his son, Peridot, maybe 5 or 6 years old. Not a mark on him. Was totally fine last night. Didn't smell anything bad this morning. Not a mark on him.

Down to two sand boas. Probably my last for a while.

snake and bake
Feb 23, 2005

:theroni:
It really sucks when we lose one of our beloved critters. Especially when it's something unexpected that just happens out of nowhere with a younger animal. My heart goes out to you guys. :(

TwystNeko
Dec 25, 2004

*ya~~wn*
So, after many years, I am finally moving into a place where I can have a herp. I used to have a corn snake, until I had to give him up due to moving. I'm thinking about getting a Bearded Dragon.

I know some of the basics, but could someone give me a rundown/checklist of things I need? I'm hoping to have a pet that I can take out on a harness for walks/socializing with.

Also, recommended place to get them? I mean, I can get one at PetSmart, but I'm wary of store-bought herps.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

TwystNeko posted:

So, after many years, I am finally moving into a place where I can have a herp. I used to have a corn snake, until I had to give him up due to moving. I'm thinking about getting a Bearded Dragon.

I know some of the basics, but could someone give me a rundown/checklist of things I need? I'm hoping to have a pet that I can take out on a harness for walks/socializing with.

Also, recommended place to get them? I mean, I can get one at PetSmart, but I'm wary of store-bought herps.

If you want an animal for socializing and taking on walks with a leash, get a dog. Beardies will often tolerate being put in a harness but they're not cut out to be taken on excursions or heavily socialized. Bearded dragons spend hours of every day basking in the 100+ degree Outback sun. You'll want to keep your beardie close to its enclosure and able to warm up and bask quickly if you take it out for feedings/enrichment. You're not going to be taking it to work with you (unless you plan on having a tank with full basking setup at work too) or to a friend's house or the park.

No herp is really that kind of pet. Even tegus, which people consider the most "doglike" reptiles, need a moist, super hot environment for most of the time or they can get seriously unwell.

And please don't ever get a beardie from Petco/Petsmart. I've never seen any there that don't look at least somewhat unhealthy, and they're frankly sold too young for my liking. If you can go to an expo (doubtful for the foreseeable) or find a breeder/online seller that's your best bet.

TwystNeko
Dec 25, 2004

*ya~~wn*
Thanks for the input.

Yea, I wasn't thinking "Walks like a dog", more along the lines of "take with me when I go out on a hot day", as I've run into at least one person who does that locally. the harness was more along the lines of safety. But if that's a bad idea, I'm happy to discard it. I'd rather have a happy pet.

And yea, Petsmart's the last place I'd get a pet. I got my Corn from a reptile-specific store, and that's the low bar.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
Welp, scorpion was ok yesterday but tonight I found him dead, with his intended dinner (some mealworms) crowding around his body looking for an in.

I hadn’t gotten him to eat since that day I posted about it. Not sure what I did wrong.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



I commissioned a watercolor portrait of Nicol Bolas as his namesake, and now he watches ever vigilant over my land station:


PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

That is cute as gently caress!

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
It does do a hilariously good job of catching the traditional Reptile Smug(tm) expression herps are just universally born, it seems.

Piggy Smalls
Jun 21, 2015



BOSS MAKES A DOLLAR,
YOU MAKE A DIME,
I'LL LICK HIS BOOT TILL THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS SHINE.





Baby Uraraka sun bathing in her homemade outdoor enclosure.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
I've got a question about keeping Green Snakes as a pet, specifically the rough or smooth green snakes native to North America. Some sites say they are a beginner pet and no problem at all, while some say they are an intermediate pet. From what I can tell, it's easy to keep them the alive and care for them, they just don't like to be handled too much and that's why some places don't consider them a good beginner pet. I'm aware they need a bigger(taller) cage because they need to climb to be happy. Is there something else I'm missing here about them or is that basically it?



Also I posted this in Critterquest but check out this watersnake I found the other day at the lake. More photos in the link. He bit me because he liked me I think




https://imgur.com/a/z85LYWb

Drunk Driver Dad fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Jun 22, 2020

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
Is there a Pet Island/Heavy Petting discord lifeboat? Goons in the fish thread were posting other fish/tank forums and discussing their merits, and I figured it might be worth making one if we don't already have it

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Ok Comboomer posted:

Is there a Pet Island/Heavy Petting discord lifeboat? Goons in the fish thread were posting other fish/tank forums and discussing their merits, and I figured it might be worth making one if we don't already have it

seconding this.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



https://www.facebook.com/lepperdaw/videos/10158996360994750

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

Does anyone have a Beardie in a studio apartment? (like, 370 sq ft two stories)

If so.....how bad does their poop smell :itoilet:

I'm debating getting one but I keep hearing it's stinky.

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer

GreenBuckanneer posted:

Does anyone have a Beardie in a studio apartment? (like, 370 sq ft two stories)

If so.....how bad does their poop smell :itoilet:

I'm debating getting one but I keep hearing it's stinky.

Speaking as someone who had a breeding colony of beardies, but also has kept various lizards and mammals, cat poo poo smells the worst. Beardies, iirc, might have one or two shits every few days but it's easy to pick and clean up.

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

Cowslips Warren posted:

Speaking as someone who had a breeding colony of beardies, but also has kept various lizards and mammals, cat poo poo smells the worst. Beardies, iirc, might have one or two shits every few days but it's easy to pick and clean up.

I used to have a cat with the ex and her poo poo didn't stink that bad.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



My place is a two-bedroom with a huge studio-style kitchen/living room/dining room you could roller skate in. It's not that bad.

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

I've got my beardie in my room in the house, the door to which is pretty much always closed. The only time smell has ever been an issue is when he takes a monster poo poo on his rocks and I'm elbow deep in the enclosure around the same time. Otherwise there's no odor from him that I can discern.

FreshFeesh
Jun 3, 2007

Drum Solo
Unfortunately my gecko Princess died after complications from a previous infection, but luckily Little Dude is still going strong and is looking as cute as ever.

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
gently caress that sucks dude, I'm sorry.

One of the real bad thing with animals, nearly all animals, is that they do their best to hide an issue.

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Dial M for MURDER
Sep 22, 2008
Hello
I'm a moron that can't figure out how to get my sons bearded dragon right.
We bought this terrarium and added the lights recommended by the store.
1 x CFL UV light
1 x 100w basking light
1x Ceramic bulb (maybe 100w)

This wasn't quite getting the temperatures high enough, so we added a 125w mercury bulb in an 8" dome
This was a bit too much, so now we keep the basking light off and just used the 125 mercury bulb.

For a while everything was going well and he was eating great. He shed a couple days ago, but still hasn't really gotten his appetite back and he is stressed a lot.

While the temps are pretty good I am having a hard time getting the basking spot warm enough, and still have a cool spot below say 85 degrees. Maybe too much of the UV light is getting blocked by the screen up top? I don't know,

I also have a 160w mercury bulb but I haven't used it.

Here are some pics to show the enclosure and current set up.

https://imgur.com/a/xz043sr

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