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AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

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Hello Thread,

I thought I would post some pictures of me and my wifes basically... well herp zoo at this point... like half of them are ones we rescued from people who were going to throw them away or have euthanized. So starting with the newest rescue.




This is Sammy, She is a 16 year old female red slider we rescued on monday. She has never had a basking spot before being only in water in a tank way to small for her. She is also really overweight... I mean really overweight. what we have her in now while bigger is also too small so we are hunting for a 125 gallon we can afford or that is free. If any Goons in the MD region know of an available tank hit me up please. At 16 she is also the second oldest pet in the household

We are taking her out for walks for exercise and trying to teach her to eat leafy greens. Hopefully she loses the fat rolls with some love and care.

Next:



This is Chocolate Chip Cookie a fat tailed lizard female. She is technically my Niece's, but we take care of her mostly while training the kid on proper herp care. She is mostly friendly and will occasionally walk onto my open hand... other times she nibbles on my finger.



Speckles the Pac-man frog juvenile. Very upset that they were dug up so I could add some more plants to the bio-active set up they are in.

Speaking of upset



There is THIS rear end in a top hat. Trigger the Tokay Gecko, as normal per the species he is highly aggressive and does not like to be touched. He is VERY PRETTY THOUGH



Moving on to more approachable animals is Eragon, my mother's Bearded Dragon. He enjoys blueberries, long walks around the house, and begging for food anytime the roach bin is handled. He is also a rescue

My mother also has a Veiled Chameleon



Not visible but when we found him at a reptile show he had a really bad wound on his left eye so my mother of course had to save him.



Next is Banana our 12 year old Crested Gecko. She came to us when my wife went out to buy a tank a lady was getting rid of. Turns out there was a Gecko in the tank that was not advertised so we ended up with a Gecko as well. She has been with us for 3 years now, mostly eats fruit mash. She may seem very friendly and approachable, but that is just a trick so she can banzai dive off the top of your shoulder.

Small Colony of Long-Tailed Lizards



After them is my adult Pac-Man



Seen here resting, thinking he is buried but not entirely.

Finally for animals behold our homemade White's Tree Frog enclosure.



My wife made it a out of a display cabinet. Currently housing four White's inside two male, two female all adults, we could add more tbh.



The frogs love to hide in the pterodactyl planters, I have seen up to three of them cram into a single planter before, I am not sure how they fit their fat asses into there. Image is of the two females stacked on each other with a bit of a leg show going on.



The Log embeded into the tank is hollow and acts as a tunnel for the frogs to chill inside or move up to the higher levels of the tank. Featuring Spork, our oldest White's and first acquisition. He like's to hunt for his food and thus gets weighed regularly to make sure he is actually catching and eating prey. He does occasionally deign to eat in my presence, mostly when he gets a hornworm or nightcrawler as a treat.


All animals are fed a varied diet with primary insectivore food being Dubia roaches from our personal colony, supplemented as appropriate with mealworms, hornworms, and nightcrawlers.



So many loving roaches, I swear they eat better than I do as well. Cleaning is also a nightmare because of tweezing the hundreds of baby roaches out of the detritus.


All in all I really enjoy watching and taking care of all of them. Such beautiful and fascinating little creatures.

AtomikKrab fucked around with this message at 21:03 on May 2, 2021

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AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

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MillennialVulcan posted:

This is very cool, I need to look into doing something like this.

Ensure adequate venting and airflow. the tank there has some fans installed in the back with meshed cut throughs to ensure good airflow. If you are building vertical having a very deep substrate for your plants to dig into is also useful,

Make sure to seal the tank with something safe for reptiles, let that clear out any fumes, then build your surfaces, we used a non-toxic foam to build to terrain while installing the log and the climbing perches and sticks. Then covered it all in repti-soil after letting it have some time to make sure it was set and there were no fumes or potentially anything else to hurt the frogs. We had plants higher up as well but didn't build the bowls deep enough for the roots to set in so if you want several layers of plants make sure you build very deep pockets for them to nest into. the Top of the tank is mesh with a heat lamp, regular light and a uvb bulb, while White's are primarily nocturnal they like to occasionally rest up on a basking ledge we built into the tank during the day to get the uvb.

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

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Desert Bus posted:

Have you considered Tillandsia's for higher up plants?

No, those would probably be great if I can pretty much staple them into the wall of the tank or the top of the tunnel log.

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

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Spork wishes to thank you for your advice and reminds you that the best part of waking up, is a chill frog in a cup.

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Jul 17, 2010

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Ok Comboomer posted:

yeah, both would be easy. I just don’t want to keep crickets long term (ugh)

I’ll happily make tegu mash and eggs and mix up crested gecko food and even hand-feed canned snails every day but gently caress me I did not want to go back to having to deal with loving crickets I hate them so much

Maybe they would eat some roaches? I find roaches easier to deal with than loving crickets.

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Jul 17, 2010

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OneSizeFitsAll posted:

Always exciting to get home from work and discover one of my tarantulas has decided to moult. I don't have so many that it happens all the time. Plus you get a brand new, bigger spider with updated colours!

Admittedly the actual moulting process looks like a weird jumble of tarantula parts. Plus there is always the worry that it will go wrong. Go, Jack Skellington, go! Looking forward to seeing your new clothes little chap/chapette.



Every time my crayfish molts it looks like it get ripped into shreds, then me worriedly looking for them to make sure they molted ok and didn't die midmolt. I assume it's the same feeling there.

The colors on the fresh shell are absolutely exceptional.

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

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OneSizeFitsAll posted:

100%. Are crayfish also vulnerable as hell for a while afterwards? With Ts you have to wait days until their fangs harden until you feed them. Also, even a small cricket/cannibalistic feeder left in with a freshly-moulted T is capable of killing it.

Same question for snakes actually, given there are tons of keepers in here.

Highly Vulnerable, but he doesn't have anything in his tank that would view him as prey, He's also the largest thing in there by a good margin. Easier to feed as he will munch on pretty much anything provided so even after molting as long as I drop food in near where he likes to hide he will extend a claw out to snag it and bring it in.

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

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OneSizeFitsAll posted:

Who's my clever little Pumpkin King(/Queen)





Very Pretty

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Bulky Bartokomous posted:

Fly River Turtle. I saw one of these in a pet store once and felt kind of gross about it.







I had to go transport clients there for a trip thursday. I saw that turtle! Also the alligator snapping turtle was trying to bite through their tank to eat the small children staring at it.

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Jul 17, 2010

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OneSizeFitsAll posted:

Caribena versicolor - sub-adult female.

Haven't named her yet.



Very Pretty

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Jul 17, 2010

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TheGreyGhost posted:

Hello thread,

I have come with some very basic questions. We are currently in a short term rental where to get a nominal discount, we agreed to do basic feeding/care for a small monitor lizard that their 8 year old has (dude is like the size of my hand so not insanely huge, hasn’t shown any real aggression or energy either). Owner told us “we usually give it 3-4 roaches every 2-3 days” and proceeded to not only not leave us with any roaches but totally fail to explain some mechanics of this. Fortunately, my wife is a lab scientist who has been through a lot of animal courses in life, and I’m not particularly squeamish.

1. Where do you guys buy roaches? In specialty pet shops? Online? Does it matter heavily what type? The one roach left was like the size of a quarter.

2. How worried do I need to be about this thing jailbreaking? I only see like a front latch on the enclosure so do I just drop the bugs like a smoke bomb and leave?

3. How do I keep these roaches alive for 5 weeks while I’m trapped getting a discount that does not feel like enough for me to be spending brain power on this?

1. most petstores will have them, look for Dubia Roaches, they are relatively inexpensive, you can also buy online at a multitude of retails, dubia.com joshs frogs, etc.
2. They mostly don't try to jailbreak, get some plastic tongs grab a roach after putting some calcium/vitamin powder on it, hold roach up to lizard and it... should bite it.
3. either 1 buy only enough roaches for a little bit, or two if you get a bunch look up water crystals and use a bit so the roaches don't drown, the roaches will literally eat like anything for the most part, I feed mine a mix of oatmeal/peanut butter powder/mixed fruits, but I have a lot of reptiles/frogs and keep a large bin of roaches that mostly breed themselves so I don't need to buy roaches constantly.

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Jul 17, 2010

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TheGreyGhost posted:

Buddy, I wish I knew. It’s maybe 13-16 inches long with a head about 2-2.5 fingers wide. Its jaw looks kinda pointy?

This helps because I’m not responsible for this animal beyond a few weeks and I’m not about to start bulk ordering or doing roach husbandry lol. If I’m going once a week I can get the dog a chew too if those roaches will hold up that long here (I’m in LA if that matters at all).

They generally will. Other options though more expensive for store bought would be some hornworms to supplement.

Give us a picture of the lizard if possible so we can get an idea about it.

Also do they have calcium powder/vitamin powder on hand? If they are serious about keeping the thing they should have some to dust the roaches with.

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Jul 17, 2010

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Cowslips Warren posted:

In a war of wills with Portal, our largest leopard tortoise. She managed to wrap her leg around a hose, and is closed up and won't let me get it out. We're on hour two so far.

Oh my, that's bad, I assume she isn't vulnerable to delicious food just out of reach she would need to move to get?

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

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That freaking sucks.

In personal news. My wife and I moved our entire room of reptiles to another room today as part of home reorganizing. Along the way we moved the old roach bin, which I thought had nothing left living in it, I had kind of forgotten about it and there was a variety of debris in it but I Thought I had taken all the roaches out and moved them to the current bin, just never got to cleaning it. So we dug it out, and surprise surprise, I had not only missed some roaches, they had grown up and bred along the way and there was a small colony surviving off of... I don't even know what to be honest? Anyway free roaches.

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

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I feed my frogs Dubias as a primary with supplemental hornworms, waxworms, silkworms, etc.

Highly recommend a good roach colony, they last

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Jul 17, 2010

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Ya'll ever just been so happy when a reptile shits on you?

Story:

My wife got an adult cuban false chameleon during early covid and we have had him since like early 2021, we don't know his exact age since he was a full grown adult when she acquired him but probably starting to get up there in age over all. He was still doing fine, eating his normal diet etc. Then last week I'm coming to go feed the frogs and other nocturnals, he's laying curled up in an awkward position and swollen, I thought he was dead but he wiggled weakly so I got out some of the emergency supplements and my wife called the exotic vet we used in the morning only to find there were no appointments and she would need to call back at 8 am to see if there were any cancellations. She managed to get one friday. Vet thinks he has gout and we did blood work, the vet even threw in a free x-ray! (I think just for the practice on their end.) which showed no sign of MBD. Anyway the vet was not sure he would even make it for the blood work to get processed but gave my wife some antibiotics due to some wounds I think he got when he likely had his legs give out and fell from his basking area, and a possible eye infection.

Anyway we nurse him over the weekend, yesterday night he was willing to each a single roach which I felt was good but I was worried about impaction. So it was very good this morning when while doing his medications and a bit of supplement he reared up rather than just wiggle, and took a big poo poo on my hand. Not out of the woods at all with the lizard but at least the systems appear to be functional.

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Jul 17, 2010

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Update on my lizard: My wife heard back from the vet, there is some anemia but no Gout, so now we are going to get a stool sample (of course my wife tells me this just AFTER he took a big poo poo on me and I cleaned it) to try to figure out what's going on because she said no MBD, bloodwork came back with just the anemia which is now being treated with some vitamin supplementation. Lizard is eating, drinking, making GBS threads, moving around his tank some but not a lot, he's improved a bit more from my last post but not hugely.

Vet said she was going to call around next week to other vets that handle exotics to see if they have any ideas since we have at this point ruled out a lot of common things.

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Bollock Monkey posted:

I hope your cool friend is ok! I hadn't heard of that type of lizard before and enjoyed looking at their derpy forms just now.

I realised we've had our axolotl Max for 9 years now. I am nervous about the day I find him floating, and the fact that it could be any time from now to 5+ more years.

He shedded yesterday which I feel is a bit of a positive sign, and took a small roach from me when offered.

And yeah, wondering when they are going to go can be an issue, but gotta remember they are not forever. I think one issue i'm having with the lizard is I just don't know for certain what's up with him.

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My lizard Blue went to sleep for the last time just a bit ago.


He prolapsed late Saturday night and I knew it was basically it for him, we took him to an exotic vet we have used in the past that does 24 hour services and they confirmed it was likely the Gout that caused the prolapse and with the other declines it would be best for his suffering to end. I'll just be a wreck for a bit and make sure to fatten up my other herps some more, it's what blue would have wanted.

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trilobite terror posted:

I’m sorry for your loss. Was Blue a Cuban false chameleon/bearded anole/related species? I was given four young ones to take care of last fall and progressively lost all of them by the summer. They were impossible to feed consistently, one of them developed a kink in their spine that we couldn’t tell if it was from an injury or a metabolic issue, but I would find him lying on the substrate seemingly dying only to see him be fine like nothing happened an hour later. Ironically he lasted the longest.

My sense is that they were either wild-caught from Florida or semi-feral/“farmed” and they came in with a ton of parasite and nutrition problems (they’re also mainly snail eaters in the wild, I tried to get mine to eat canned snails to no avail because lol at raising a colony of clean snails at home and field-collected snails bioaccumulate chemicals and parasites like nobody’s business, but the most success I ever had with them was with mealworms and pretty much only mealworms), but I don’t think I’ll be trying to raise them again. Maybe if I can confirm captive breeding and a good response to a variety of common feeders, but even then.

Sometimes a less popular or relatively “new to the hobby” species has a brief moment of popularity when somebody manages to get a shipment into the country or they flood the pet store distribution market with a generation of babies, only for a ton of them to do really badly once they end up on the final sales floor (ie, see Chinese cave geckos right now).

He was a false chameleon/bearded anole, we got him as an adult (scratch and dent, they told us he was blind in one eye, oddly when we did go to the vet the vet gave us some eye ointment and it cleared right up, he saw better than ever.) and had him for over 4 years. He would refuse snails but enjoyed dubias, mealworms, waxworms, hornworms, etc. Even for most of him being sick he would still willing eat even if he was getting inconsistent (vet feels the gout stones were causing him to get backed up). He was good boy and friendly liked to climb on me when I went to feed him.

I think the biggest thing I would do if I ever got another one is to make absolutely sure they are hydrating properly and regularly, Blue was always difficult about water drinking and I had to play games with dechlorinated water on his basking rock to drip on his head to get him to drink a lot.

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

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Nice Frogs,

One Male and two females?

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Jul 17, 2010

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Just get more shrimps, lots more shrimps

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Leperflesh posted:

I tried water dishes for like a year and the only thing they did was drown crickets. I've heard of people being more successful with suction cupped little tiny drinky cups stuck to the wall, but my cresties just drink droplets from whatever surface after misting and that's it. Assuming you're feeding a powdered diet, they also get a fair bit of moisture from the food.

I've kept dart frogs in several kinds of vivarium, from just ordinary fish tanks with partial lids (cut down the screen lid to a partial, fill the rest of the space with cut acrylic), to zoo med style, to completely custom. To me the main questions are:
  • Do you want to set up a water feature? This is advanced stuff, I'd suggest not doing this with your first frogs. If you intend to drill out a drain or hole for an electric cord for a pump, you might prefer an acrylic or w/e tank over glass. You can drill glass, but it's scary and easy to accidentally crack the glass.
  • Do you care if fruit flies escape? They will escape regardless, but some vivs let a lot escape. Zoo meds are not fly escape proof. Screened top fish tanks let all the flies leave in minutes. Custom tanks with laser-cut ventilation can be nearly fly-proof.
  • Are you setting up an automatic mister? Zoo med tops are set up with holes for you to run your tube in from the top and attach nozzles to, which makes this easier.
  • What are you doing for lighting, if anything? I have always used "jungle" UVB lamps, mostly because they promote plant growth, but also because I don't 100% trust the care sheets that claim dart frogs don't need any UV. The frogs can self-regulate if there's a bit of UV available. Do not use a "desert" UVB lamp, that's way too much. The lamp you use, its form factor, etc. may determine what shape/depth/etc your viv needs to be, depending on how you're gonna mount it etc.
The rest is down to personal preference.

BTW if you're anywhere near me in the SF bay area, I've got a selection of used vivariums you can have for free. They need to be cleaned out because they've been sitting on my patio for years, but they're free.

I have a water dish for mine, a very very low and flat one that's basically just a shallow pool to sip out of. Sometimes she tries to eat the dish.

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