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ManxomeBromide
Jan 29, 2009

old school

nweismuller posted:

Two situations? I can only think of one, which I am planning to avoid. Punishment Spheres are a horrorshow. What's the other?

Eradicating a faction instead of vassalizing them, which pretty clearly involves locking the rival leader into a Punishment Sphere.

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nweismuller
Oct 11, 2012

They say that he who dies with the most Opil wins.

I am winning.
Oh, that. Given how I've signalled I'm intending to play, what are the odds of that happening?

LEGO Genetics
Oct 8, 2013

She growls as she storms the stadium
A villain mean and rough
And the cops all shake and quiver and quake
as she stabs them with her cuffs
Unbalanced as they are, I rather enjoy Crossfire Nautilus Pirates faction to balance out the original seven leaders. Too bad we won't get any weird aliens to suddenly show up this playthrough all full of piss and vinegar.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Neruz posted:

So you're saying that More Money > Less Money is not true in Alpha Centauri? :psyduck:

No longer meaning this as criticism of nweis' plan of play but general game mechanics chat and so spoiling, my opinion is that there comes a time when you have Enough Money, and that there are other things that can be more important than raw +Economy modifiers. My favored SE setting in general is Democracy/Green/Wealth, which affords the following modifiers:

+4 Efficiency (near-zero energy loss from inefficiency)
+2 Planet (50% chance at goodies that haven't been shown yet)
+1 Industry (mineral costs decreased by 10%)
+1 Economy (+1 energy each base)
-2 Morale (-1 Morale; + modifiers halved)
-2 Support (Support 1 unit free per base; no free minerals for new base.)

Thing is, these disadvantages aren't as bad as they sound and can be completely negated with the right base facilities and projects. The Efficiency boon is very nice for energy income assuming you're getting a shitload of energy at your bases (easy to do, even early on depending on your tech path and if you can get the Weather Paradigm), the Planet bonus negates the native threat to a large extent and turns it into an advantage, especially on water-heavy maps, and the industry and economy boosts are nice on the side. Planned can be substituted for Green, which results in neutral Efficiency, +2 Industry, +4 Growth, and the same disadvantages listed - also a powerful setup.

Morgan adds to this setup an additional +1 Economy, getting him that precious +1 energy per base square bonus.

Free Market, in my opinion, just isn't worth it for most factions and you want to be VERY careful running it if you have Deirdre, Cha'Dawn, or H'minee for neighbors. Miriam, Morgan, Roze, and Domai can prey on its less obvious weakness if the mood strikes them.

In particular, for energy income you have to ask yourself what you're using energy for. Industry, research, and probe bonuses can substitute for Economy modifiers depending on what you're using it for, and upping Efficiency can easily make up for a loss of Economy - add Children's Creches to Democracy/Green and you get a Paradigm Economy with zero inefficiency whatsoever.

Morgan in my opinion is best played against type - I've run Fundy/Green/Power Morgan, and it can do quite well, not to mention those SE settings put you on good terms with some of the bigger warmongers in the game.

My purely arbitrary and personal reservation against Free Market for the LP is that I think buddying up to Planet makes for the best story, but that's down entirely to personal preference.

Cythereal fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Jan 25, 2015

ManxomeBromide
Jan 29, 2009

old school

nweismuller posted:

Oh, that. Given how I've signalled I'm intending to play, what are the odds of that happening?

Not gonna lie - this is going to be the first game on Librarian or higher that I will have seen all the way through. I have no idea what to expect - I tended to find Talent the most difficult to play on because Planet or civil disorder just wiped out everyone on the higher difficulties, but now that I dig into I see that Librarian is in fact the Prince-equivalent "even game". There seem to be difficulty modifiers I've never seen in a 4X before, too - Librarian turns out to be the lowest difficulty level where AIs will start secret projects before you have the relevant tech for that project. :crossarms:

While I didn't see anything about vassalization on the list I honestly am unclear what to expect for that.

Cythereal posted:

Captain Planet villains

This discussion has made me go look through all the SE stuff again, and there's an interesting disconnection here for the other part of this. This goes pretty deep into the Social Engineering weeds, so I'm hiding it in Spoilers for now as none of it has come up in-game:

Free Market and Cybernetic both carry hefty penalties to POLICE, and cast it as 'increasing unrest' - which is to say, in addition to being Captain Planet villains you are also Dickensian villains. But that's not what a low POLICE rating means! A low police rating governs how much unrest is caused by combat units outside of their home base, like Republic/Democracy in Civ, and it also governs whether you can nerve staple riots into submission or use military units as police units to quell unrest. Free Market drops your police level so hard that you have to deploy every possible bonus from SEs - Police State and Thought Control - to even get up to the -1 that you'd need to have military police work at all. Factions like the Gaians, who start with -1 POLICE, can't even manage that. If you want to be able to nerve staple rioters for the greater glory of your Captains of Industry, you have to be Santiago - not even Yang can manage it.

The POLICE rating is actually how well force works to control your citizens, and if you go Free Market the answer is "it doesn't, at all, without the most extreme of extreme measures, at which point it only does a little".

Given the way nweismuller LPs tend to go, I will be very surprised if we go Police State/Thought Control, which is the only way to have any options for dealing with Drone that don't involve base facilities or psych output.

nweismuller
Oct 11, 2012

They say that he who dies with the most Opil wins.

I am winning.

ManxomeBromide posted:

...now that I dig into I see that Librarian is in fact the Prince-equivalent "even game".

And this is why I chose Librarian as my difficulty level.

And ManxomeBromide is right, that's not what low POLICE means... which is why I have always ignored that particular bit of flavor text, especially since the FM flavor text is written in a 'purple' fashion they didn't even deploy for Police State or Fundamentalist Politics. It's a notably weak piece of writing.

nweismuller fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Jan 25, 2015

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
Edit: Nah, enough of this derail.

To: Applied Maritime Solutions Personnel
From: Dr. Maria Valdez
Subject: Brand recognition

I have received a number of inquiries lately from employees wondering what is going on with our project nomenclature here at AMS typically referring to Mesoamerican mythology and history. In two words that should be obvious to anyone hoping to work in marketing: brand recognition. Just look at the names on file for sea base proposals in the Network Node:

Atlantis
New Atlantis
Atlantisville
Atlantiss
Atlantissimo
Neo-Atlantis
New Venice
Far Venice
Neo-Venice
New New Amsterdam
Deep Sea Nine (okay, I actually like this one)
Xochimilco

Notice one that stands out on that list?

It's about cultivating a brand, people, and this one has been working pretty well for us. Also, stop bitching about how hard "Xochimilco" and "Ahuizotl" and "Xipetotec" are to pronounce. I'm conversant in English, Spanish, Portugese, and Revised Nahuatl. The least you can do is learn to pronounce the name of the project you've been assigned to and thank God you aren't part of Skye's colony. Rumor has it they've been trying to revive Gaelic as a conversational language.

That is all.

Cythereal fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Jan 25, 2015

nweismuller
Oct 11, 2012

They say that he who dies with the most Opil wins.

I am winning.
What Is Your Profession?




By 2131, a cluster of small firms in the Morgan settlement have completed reprocessing plants that break down the organic waste of the settlement, refining biofuels, water, industrial chemicals, and fertilisers from sewage, garbage, and the dead. The recovery of resources this allows is, perhaps, modest, but the precarious situation of Chironian settlements nonetheless makes it a welcome buffer between viability and starvation.

Recycling Tanks provide +1 nutrients, minerals, and energy- a small bonus, but one that can make all the difference when you're struggling with feeding and building in your settlements.



Meanwhile, Rat Patrol, exploring north, found yet another of the strange monolith complexes which have been found to litter Pholus. It reported the location and moved on, along the western face of a major north-south ridge.




By 2135, Rat Patrol had located another Unity cargo pod, this one containing the wreckage of a portion of the Unity's comms sections. Although the wreckage was almost entirely useless, logs were recovered from its memory banks providing codes for the original communications array for Pod 6. Using these codes, Morgan Industries, on behalf of all the settlers of North Pholus, attempted to make contact with Pod 6 and confirm if they had survived.




Communications were successfully established, and initial discussions revealed that Pod 6 had founded its own nation- the Spartan Federation. The Federation currently operates under a provisional military government, which dips heavily into their colony's industrial assets for the development and manufacture of military equipment. They have already deployed laser weaponry in their military, their standard assault rifle has been re-engineered from the old UN 7.62mm standard to a new 6mm standard with significantly higher muzzle velocity and accuracy, and their troops, on average, are well-disciplined and trained, while their civilian population has been conditioned to emergency drills so that they will respond in a smooth and orderly fashion in crisis situations. Like the South Pholus colonists, the Federation has significantly lower consumption and living space per capita than the North Pholus colony. Corazon Santiago, as Colonel of the Spartan Army, was now their chief military and political leader.

The Spartans get +2 MORALE due to excellent training and equipment quality for their troops, and +1 POLICE due to a culture that has been drilled to accept emergency necessities and martial law. Their gearing of their industry for top-quality military equipment lets them build prototype units at no added cost, and they start with a free scout rover. On the other hand, they suffer -1 INDUSTRY, slowing their production at their settlements, due to an economy and industrial base which needs to support their very expensive military.






Although Colonel Santiago attempted to extract technical information from the North Pholus colony by veiled threats, Morgan stood firm against any deal that did not end with a mutual benefit, and the Colonel was eventually persuaded to release information on Spartan tactical and strategic doctrines and the designs for high-speed buggies which could be adapted to military use.





With this new information, security forces throughout North Pholus would soon struggle to digest and internalise the lessons of Spartan training and tactical doctrines, and plans would be drawn up for potential new vehicles which could allow for rapid attacks and retreats.

Speeders not only move quickly, but have a chance to disengage if a battle is going poorly and gain a 25% attack bonus in flat or rolling terrain due to their maneuverability. It is more expensive to fit speeders with armor than it is to fit infantry with armor, however, so they tend to make poor fixed defensive units.






With that business concluded, Morgan was able to negotiate a mutual recognition of borders and an agreement to let trade pass over them- at least, once travel between the two nations was practical at all. Added information on North Pholus computing technology was sufficient for Santiago to agree to share the Federation's location, along with their cartographic data, which would allow for eventual trade traffic.




The Federation proved to be built on a large island, dubbed New Lacedaemonia, just east of the eastern tip of Pholus, created by the action of the largest active volcano on Chiron, Mount Planet. The sheltered valley west of Mount Planet that held Sparta Command was a rainy and fertile place, friendly to settlement, while the slopes of Mount Planet itself were rich with metals and minerals deposited by magma flows and rich with geothermal heat. North of New Lacedaemonia, a broad shallow region of the ocean likewise enjoyed significant geothermal activity, while a chain of tiny islands connected New Lacedaemonia to the eastern tip of Pholus.

We have, so far, found four unique geographical features with bonus resources inherent to them. The Freshwater Sea provides +1 nutrient per tile due to its fertility and abundance of life, while Pholus Ridge, stretching to our north, provides +1 energy to tiles along its crest due to geothermal activity. Mount Planet gives +1 minerals and energy to every tile on its slopes, while its summit is molten and unusable. Meanwhile, the Geothermal Shallows provide +1 energy to every tile in their area.




In 2138 a swarm of mindworms emerged from the xenofungal forests north of the Morgan settlement, prompting the local security forces to engage and destroy them, although not without some losses due to the terror and madness inspired by the worms. More thorium pellets were recovered from their carcasses, used to fuel the industry of North Pholus as it outfitted colonists for a new venture to the eastern reaches of its territory.




By 2140, the growing sophistication and specialisation of economy of North Pholus was beginning to show. Sophisticated financial markets and business plans were being developed, and the currency of the nation was formally fixed on a thorium standard, as the constant demand for thorium as a power source and its widespread distribution should provide for a relatively stable price for the currency. With the continuing development of the economy and the liquidation of IDC assets, Morgan announced the planned dissolution of the Morgan settlement IDC in three years, with the few remaining functions related to security and governance of the Morgan settlement itself spun off into the Morgan Settlement Authority, to be governed by a board of directors drawn from a number of the prominent and respected firms in the settlement. The remaining stockholders in the IDC were to have their shares of ownership converted into cash and paid off. The Torrson and Tellus settlements were likewise nearly ready to dissolve their own IDCs, having developed their own healthy ecosystem of firms.

We have unlocked our first new Social Engineering choice, which we can and will implement once we have 24 credits to pay for the costs of the transition. Free Market provides +2 ECONOMY, -5 POLICE, and -3 PLANET. With a total of +3 ECONOMY, we will get +1 energy in every tile and increased commerce income, which will greatly increase our overall income and research speed. -5 POLICE indicates a complete inability to exert control over the civil populace by force, and a backlash amongst the civil populace when we have military units other than the Rat Patrol itself operating outside of our borders, with a wide divergence of uncontrolled power centers outside the government itself. -3 PLANET gives us a 30% penalty in psi combat, as we systematically exploit our holdings for the good of humans.

Now that we shall shortly have a Free Market economy, I will institute formal voting related to a Free Market, reflecting the influence of consumer spending and the initiatives of private firms. Each update, everybody (including myself, as the LPer) gets four votes to spend on research priorities and 10 votes to spend on energy allocation priorities. Research priority votes are to be divided amongst Explore (planetary sciences and population growth), Build (infrastructural and economic development), Discover (pure science), and Conquer (military applications). Energy allocation votes are to be divided between Economy (cash income), Labs (research), and Psych (luxuries and quality of life). Your votes for Economy and Labs may not diverge by more than 1, and your votes for Psych should be some value between 1 and 4. The OP has been updated with this new voting policy.


The North Pholus Colony as of 2140




The stockpiled industrial materials intended to give the Pod 5 colony a head start have been entirely depleted, having helped complete the network hub in the Torrson settlement and provide equipment for a new IDC led by Lovelace Software and Dreamland Games to establish a new settlement in the eastern reaches. North of the settled regions of North Pholus, the Great Pholus Ridge is being explored by the Rat Patrol, which reports signs of intense geothermal activity there, while Talon Security Solutions is being retasked to turn east to provide temporary security for the colonists assembled by the new IDC.



The Morgan settlement now takes advantage of a major mining operation on the rocky bluffs to its south, a major railhead delivering industrial metals to the foundries and factories of the settlement. With this industrial productivity, firms in the Morgan settlement have begun investment into top-of-the line medical research equipment, hospitals, and computer equipment, hoping to provide a complete sequence of the human genome and develop improved anti-agathic methods and repair of genetic disorders. The project is a massive investment of money, resources, and effort, but the potential benefit is immense.

The Human Genome Project is our first Secret Project we are attempting- only one of each Secret Project may be built in the world, ever, and the cost to build even the cheapest is far higher than that of ordinary base facilities. The rewards, however, are frequently worth the cost.



The Torrson settlement is still adjusting to the loss of much of its skilled workforce recruited for the general operations of the proposed eastern settlement, and industrial work proceeds slowly here, for the moment. It seems likely that the settlement will recover before long, however. Networking has penetrated thoroughly through the Torrson settlement, and the nascent Pholus Internet now allows high-bandwidth data transfer between the Torrson and Morgan settlements.



The Tellus settlement has extensive modern farms and thorium sifters along the peninsula to the northeast, with a local road and railroad connecting these work areas to the settlement. Terraformers are working to develop the lower-efficiency subsistance farms to the southwest to the same modern standard. The settlement still lags the older settlements, but it is well on its way to developing its own series of reprocessing plants for its organic waste, which it expects to greatly improve local conditions.

The North Pholus Colony stands on the brink of a new era of development, and the wilderness of North Pholus is slowly being tamed by the labor of its people. The challenges of creating a new economic system out of the most unpromising imaginable start have been overcome. It seems likely that the colony will continue to survive into the future, and overcome the challenges set in its path.

Remember that a new formal voting system on research priorities and energy allocation has been instituted this update. Don't forget to vote!

nweismuller fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Jul 1, 2016

nweismuller
Oct 11, 2012

They say that he who dies with the most Opil wins.

I am winning.
Nwabudike Morgan and Morgan Industries continue to support a program of industrial development balanced with long-range scientific investment, and begins to prepare for a major expansion in production of consumer goods to take advantage of growing consumer spending.

3 votes Build, 1 vote Discover. 4 votes Economy, 4 votes Labs, 2 votes Psych.

nweismuller
Oct 11, 2012

They say that he who dies with the most Opil wins.

I am winning.
The description blurbs for new technologies this update:

Doctrine: Mobility posted:

The early colonists quickly learned the importance of reconnaissance and self-defense in this most alien of environments. Doctrine: Mobility formalizes these cornerstones of military might, representing the first attempts at an organized defense policy on Planet.

Industrial Economics posted:

Early industry on Planet centered on the creation of a frontier Industrial Base featuring primitive assembly lines and simple currency instruments. Soon, leaders in the financial sectors push for a more comprehensive Industrial Economics policy to accommodate free trade and other strategies for multiplying capital.

Neruz
Jul 23, 2012

A paragon of manliness
Santiago is alive and is leading a Spartan Empire from her fortress built into the side of an active volcano.

I don't even know where to begin. No wait; aaaahhh!


Post on the General Colonial Discussion forum in the "Santiago Still Alive!" thread by Dr. M.N. Gott

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

Yesss, More trains! Let the planet vibrate in jubilation at the thunderous roar of our rail lines!

Edit: The one thing that I miss in this LP is the audio clips that play with each tech. But it'd be kinda weird for us to be getting messages from leaders we haven't even met yet.

Added Space
Jul 13, 2012

Free Markets
Free People

Curse you Hayard-Gunnes!
CEO Morgan -

We appreciate the generous terms of the loan you floated us. The history of governments and military suppliers has been a long and fruitful one, so we hope to be just as much service in selling guns as analyzing commodity futures.

--- Loss Prevention Security Services



LPSS Internal Memo

You've seen the smokestacks start to rise, and it's only a matter of time before the Gaians detect the mine tailings we're dumping into the Freshwater Sea. We anticipate a major conflict with the Green sooner rather then later. As soon as Morgan realizes that he's going to want an army in a hurry. That's why we need to get cracking to develop a complete package. Weapons, armor, habitat defenses, an army command infrastructure. If we move fast we can get a sweetheart deal on node time to get all this developed. We're also going to work to see if we can get some back channels open with Santiago. I doubt it would take much to draw her into this conflict. Get some propaganda going to inspire proper patriotic fervor.

1 Discover 3 Conquer
4 Econ 4 Labs 2 Psych

Orbs
Apr 1, 2009
~Liberation~
Though Chief Integration Coordinator Dakarai Kaapanda is not personally the head of a company, he is a mid-to-high-level bureaucrat in the North Pholus Colony's administration. He works tirelessly to establish contact networks and budget deals among the various subsidiaries of Morgan Industries. Their profits are currently his primary motivation, as they directly impact his bonuses.

1 vote Explore, 1 vote Discover, 1 vote Build, and 1 vote Conquer.
Also, 5 votes Econ, 1 vote Psych, and 4 votes Labs.

brb on fire
May 12, 2013
Mr Morgan,

Enclosed is Atlas Neuroscience's first formal recommendation form for the coming decade. I apologise for the brevity of this message, but we are currently extremely busy drafting plans for the shift to a true free market system.

Signed,

Dr. Joseph Gartner, M.D.
CEO of Atlas Neuroscience




2 Explore 1 Build 1 Discover
9 votes Labs, 1 vote Econ and 0 votes Psych


I always went as hard on science as possible when I played this, regarding money as something that could wait until I wanted it, then I'd bump up the Econ rate a bit.

Colonel Corazon
Feb 12, 2011

A faction armed to the teeth hardly seems friendly to me.

Surrender immediately to the Spartans for the glory of mankind.

It's a really good plan.

Drakenel
Dec 2, 2008

The glow is a guide, my friend. Though it falls to you to avert catastrophe, you will never fight alone.
To those who attended,

Thank you for coming to the XDI HQ, I pray the data we have gathered will allow us greater insight not just to the mindworms, but the native life on Chiron in general. The live tests with rats shows that their 'terror' attacks are not limited to humankind, and the scans show that the means are not chemical in nature. This would explain why our troops are still effected even in full EVA suits. The results will be copied and sent to each of you shortly, with proprietary data upon request. The specimens almost determined attempts to gather into a minor boil was of particular interest, hopefully we will be able to experiment more with that at a later date.

If any of you hope to hold specimens of your own, I pray the security scare will prove the necessity of every step we took. The mindworms eating through the primary containment should be all the justification we need for the multiple layers of containment around each specimen. Not so excessive now, is it? With the data acquired though, I'm happy to note that even though their biology is resilient, they are still susceptible to shock. With all of this, I am forwarding design specs to our manufacturing department and hope to bring tested prototypes for capture equipment to Reilly by the end of the year.

I'd also like to thank Ms. Valdez for bringing her contribution to the lunch. Though I pray she will forgive me for scanning and putting it through decontamination after the mindworms attempted to break out. Just being cautious.

With any luck, We'll have the means to tame this land and the fungus that infests it before too long.


XDI HCS, Ezekiel Carson.





To CEO Morgan
Subject: GodDAMNit.

Was it too much to hope that Santiago's pod landed in the ocean or got eaten by mindworms? I am not thrilled to have her around. If you wish, I could act as a liason seeing as how I once took orders from her. But If I don't have to listen to her describe all the ways she wants to murder me for turning away from her crazy on the Unity, that'd be great. Better yet, just don't let her find out I'm here, thanks.

Needless to say, she's got a drat good landmass to base herself at. She could become a serious threat given time, which with the sea barriers she easily could. and her daddy never taught her to share. I won't tire you with the same rhetoric on what to do, just... Don't let her push you around either. You cave in and she'll see it as weak. She may still call vendetta over it, but if you bloody her nose at that point she'll respect you enough to back off.

Good luck, we're surrounded by crazy women.


XDI HCS Ezekiel Carson

nweismuller
Oct 11, 2012

They say that he who dies with the most Opil wins.

I am winning.
brb on fire, please look at the rules for energy allocation again. Your vote there isn't currently legal. It's missing any psych votes, when psych votes must be between one and four, and there is a difference greater than one between economy and labs. (The greater the difference between economy and labs, the more gets lost to inefficiency, which makes differences greater than one counterproductive.)

nweismuller fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Jan 25, 2015

nweismuller
Oct 11, 2012

They say that he who dies with the most Opil wins.

I am winning.
Mr. Carson,

I am not going to imperil the current relations of the North Pholus Colony with the Spartan Federation by letting Colonel Santiago know about your presence here. At the moment, there are reasonably friendly relations between our two colonies, and there is a potential for profits to Morgan Industries by establishing accounts with Federation clients. With all this said, I fully appreciate the risk that the Federation would prefer to gain access to the wealth we have created in a non-reciprocal fashion- at least the distance between our borders may currently make prosecution of a war difficult for the Federation. South Pholus, on the other hand, directly abuts North Pholus territory and may have leadership driven by religious considerations. I am, honestly, more concerned about the danger of a breakdown in relations with South Pholus than with the Federation. Regardless of any of that, you have valuable contributions to make to North Pholus and I expect to hear news of your profits in the future.

Nwabudike Morgan, CEO Morgan Settlement ICS and Morgan Industries

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
To: Morgan Industries Senior Personnel
From: Dr. Maria Valdez
Subject: Project Xipetotec

Applied Maritime Solutions is pleased to announce the completion of Project Xipetotec, the design and sea trials of a series of civilian sea vessels for use on Planet. Our patented xenofungus-derived hull treatment renders them almost immune to fouling from native life, while reinforced bows based on Earth icebreakers allow these ships to punch their way through fungal reefs and a new propeller system renders them nigh-impervious to entanglement from native life. While not suited for true blue water work beyond sight of land, these craft are now available for immediate purchase, including the Palenque-type fishing craft and Xolotl submersible. Details and prices can be found on our intranet site.

Dr. Maria Valdez,
Applied Maritime Solutions Ltd

Personal log, Dr. Maria Valdez

I cannot stress enough that I believe this is a mistake, but Morgan did not ask for my opinion. We came to this new world from the dying shithole we turned Earth into, and there is overwhelming evidence that this planet's ecology has its own defenses against disruption. Morgan is going right ahead and making the same old human mistakes that cost us so dearly on Earth. War with Skye is most likely imminent. Simply put, I am afraid. There are greater forms of wealth than mere currency, greater profits than money.

But no one asked for my opinion and shouted me down when I expressed it regardless. So much for the dream of a fresh start among the stars.


3 discover, 1 explore. 5 labs, 4 economy, 1 psych.

Cythereal fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Jan 25, 2015

nweismuller
Oct 11, 2012

They say that he who dies with the most Opil wins.

I am winning.
Cythereal, check the rules for energy allocation votes again, please.

1) 10 votes
2) no greater than one vote difference between economy and labs votes
3) between one and four psych votes

You have eleven votes total, with zero psych votes.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

nweismuller posted:

Cythereal, check the rules for energy allocation votes again, please.

1) 10 votes
2) no greater than one vote difference between economy and labs votes
3) between one and four psych votes

You have eleven votes total, with zero psych votes.

Whoops, fixed.

Lustful Man Hugs
Jul 18, 2010

Colonel Corazon posted:

Surrender immediately to the Spartans for the glory of mankind.

It's a really good plan.

Is there an account for all of the leaders in this game?

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

[Network Node Logs, Employee 10194, Morgan Industries Morale and Productivity Monitoring, Carl Hendrikson, Terraforming Engineer 3rd Class]

Well, Linda's off for the new Pholus settlement, whatever they decide on calling it. She's a good girl, sure she'll do fine up there. But guess what? You remember the psycho prepper gal who started all this crap? She's still alive and she even tried to extort the Big M with her little laser buggies. You ever wonder why these tinpot dictator types always call themselves Colonel? It's never General or anything; I remember that from the 2nd Civil War back on earth. Colonel Lyndecker of the New Texas Republic. Colonel Lionel of the Democratic Republic of California. It's always a goddamn Colonel. I tell you, Skye's neo-hippies are weird and annoying, but it's people like Santiago who hosed up Earth, and who'll gently caress up Chiron, too, if they get half a chance.

3 votes Build, 1 vote Discover, 4 votes Economy, 5 votes Labs, 1 vote Psych

Jimmy4400nav
Apr 1, 2011

Ambassador to Moonlandia
From Marcus Li, CEO of Talon Security Solutions
To: Morgan Settlement Authority
Subject: Pholus Colony

With the discovery of the Pholus ridge and its plentiful resources, Talon Security Solutions would like to inquire about the possibility of establishing a headquarters and manufacturing center located near the monolith complex and the rocky cliffs of the ridge. The monolith can assist in the training of soldiers, who might receive some of its focusing effect, and the rocky shores will allow Talon to mine a large amount of minerals needed to manufacture equipment for its soldiers. In addition, this location near the ridge allows us to create our settlement near a strategic choke point that will guard the colonies of our continent from any unknown to our north.

With the discovery of Santiago to our East, we would also like to tentatively recommend that Morgan Industries establishes some kind of PMC outpost near any possible choke point that might connect our land to the "Spartans." With the Prometheus straight stil not fully explored, it could present a possible axis of movement that could allow Santiago entrance into our lands. At the very least though, if relations prove cordil, sucjh a case would serve as a useful customs station to allow us to gain further funds, and I would recommend this for any possible chock point locations as well. Weather it is Talon or some other PMC is up to Morgan and the MSA, my recommendation is just for general security.

Marcus Li


2 Conquer, 2 Discover
5 Econ, 5 Psych

brb on fire
May 12, 2013

nweismuller posted:

brb on fire, please look at the rules for energy allocation again. Your vote there isn't currently legal. It's missing any psych votes, when psych votes must be between one and four, and there is a difference greater than one between economy and labs. (The greater the difference between economy and labs, the more gets lost to inefficiency, which makes differences greater than one counterproductive.)

:downs:

Alrighty lemme fix that.

5 Labs 4 Econ 1 Psych

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?
Edit: Nah, not really interested in this activity.

Research: 2 Discover, 2 Build
Social: 4 Labs, 3 Econ, 3 Psych

GunnerJ fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Jan 28, 2015

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Hal Kimberley's Private Log

Collaboration with Atlas continues to be a painfully slow process. I keep telling people we need to focus on Discovering the Secrets of the Human Brain, but will they listen? No! The bragging rights alone would let Morgan Industries poach any number of scientists from our competitors. And meanwhile without any big breakthroughs the xenobiology department looks like we've got our thumbs up our asses while mind worms are battering down the doors.

It's not like we're doing nothing here. In fact, the security department managed to smuggle us a few live worms in completely enclosed plasma steel cages. The worms were dormant for some reason, but I took no chances and added a lead lining to both the box and the oxygen and nutrient tubes. So far we haven't gotten so much as a headache around the specimens. Well, Dick gets migraines like you wouldn't believe, but that's unrelated. Of course, I'd love to see how the little fuckers tick, but without any proper biology facilities there's not much we can do except test how long mind worms can live in captivity. I hear there's another company out there performing more "daring" experiments, where "daring" equals "stupid," but here at Morgan Industries, we prefer our horror in the form of terrible holos.

So instead of xenobiology, Morgan has been spending his time and money with the economists, working on his own pet project. I suppose it's good to have an actual stock exchange up and running, but all I really care about is when the index funds will be starting up. It worked fine for me back on Earth, at least when whole countries weren't flushing themselves down the toilet.

End log. Double--no, better make it triple encryption. Key to my voice. Signing off.

nweismuller
Oct 11, 2012

They say that he who dies with the most Opil wins.

I am winning.
Jimmy4400nav, GunnerJ: both of you spent no votes on Psych, and votes on Psych are required to be between 1 and 4. Consumers as consumers wield a great deal of financial power in the colony now, and this is reflected in increased production of goods for them.
Bobbin Threadbare: there's a new formal voting mechanism being introduced with Free Market, and your 'focus on Discovery' fits within it. Perhaps you can reformulate that in the new format?

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

nweismuller posted:

Jimmy4400nav, GunnerJ: both of you spent no votes on Psych, and votes on Psych are required to be between 1 and 4. Consumers as consumers wield a great deal of financial power in the colony now, and this is reflected in increased production of goods for them.

I thought I actually put 5 into psych? I mean in that case I should revise it down to 4.

eta: OK, wait, so Econ and Labs must be within 1 point of each other, so I'd need to change my Labs allocation too...

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

nweismuller posted:

Bobbin Threadbare: there's a new formal voting mechanism being introduced with Free Market, and your 'focus on Discovery' fits within it. Perhaps you can reformulate that in the new format?

The idea was that "focus on Discovery" means I'm voting Discovery 4. I suppose I could be more clear in the future. Otherwise, though, I'm not going to be voting on the economy.

nweismuller
Oct 11, 2012

They say that he who dies with the most Opil wins.

I am winning.

GunnerJ posted:

I thought I actually put 5 into psych? I mean in that case I should revise it down to 4.

In that case, you need to fix the balance between your Economy and Labs votes, since they're required to be no further apart than one vote.

Bobbin Threadbare posted:

The idea was that "focus on Discovery" means I'm voting Discovery 4. I suppose I could be more clear in the future. Otherwise, though, I'm not going to be voting on the economy.

Fair enough, that makes things clearer. Thanks!

Pittsburgh Lambic
Feb 16, 2011
To: [undisclosed recipients]
From: "Pittsburgh Lambic" <xXxcaptainofindustryxXx@greedmail.com>
Subject: [IMPORTANT] The proxy voting trick that the MSA doesn't want you to know about!!!

Dear sir or madam,

The first round of policy votes on the Morgan Settlement Authority is soon to commence, and being a sensitive man, I couldn't just stand by idly while you fed your precious vote into the corrupt bureaucracy. Don't you want your vote to mean something? Don't you want your voice to be heard above that of the megacorporations keeping an iron grip on our lives? You and I both know that this colony cannot take one more month of oppression and micromanagement from those communists at the top and that only a policy of 4 Psych 3 Labs 3 Wealth and 4 Build will result in a proper distribution of wealth.

That's why I wanted to reach out to you, and you personally, to ask for your help in turning the system on its heel. See, my exhaustive research into the MSA's voting system revealed a certain little loophole, which I'm not going to disclose just yet (you never know who might be watching these e-mails!). Long story short is, I can make our votes mean something through a proxy voting system. Just fill out the attached form, sign a hard copy (ignore all the misleading legalese), and place it in the dropslot of my habitation cube located in the South Quadrant Habitation Slum 2, unit 753.5 in Morgan Industries. It's the one with feces smeared on the door and "SCAMMING PIECE OF poo poo" written over the name card in mindworm goo. Get your friends to help, too -- forward this e-mail to everybody you know, so we can make this a group effort. We're taking back this city and making it our own!

Thank you and God Bless.

- Pittsburgh Lambic

1 attachment: Standard Quitclaim Transfer of All Shares to Pittsburgh Lambic.odt

Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Jan 25, 2015

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

nweismuller posted:

In that case, you need to fix the balance between your Economy and Labs votes, since they're required to be no further apart than one vote.

Done.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
To: Morgan Xenobiology Department
BCC: Morgan Industries Senior Personnel
From: Dr. Maria Valdez
Subject: Brain scans

I understand some of you have been conducting research in the effects of psionic phenomena on the human brain, principally with regards to mind worms. I propose an exchange of research data with anyone who has solid data on the effects of psionic activity on the human brain - not the mind worms' terror assault, but general exposure from the fungus. Applied Maritime Solutions is prepared to consider any reasonable price or service in exchange for this information, which we would like for our own forthcoming xenobiological experiment.

Dr. Maria Valdez,
Applied Maritime Solutions Ltd

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Valdez,

Sorry to say but we really don't have much data beyond the exceptional examples of the mind worms. I can only share rumors you've likely already heard: lucid dreams, sudden feelings of awe and/or dread when among the fungal stalks, that sort of thing. Perhaps we could get a better sense of long-term effects if we had better facilities and a comprehensive map of the human brain, but Morgan has been spending all his money on the economy instead of on Atlas Neuroscience.

Perhaps we could arrange an exchange of favors? If you lobby Morgan now to focus on Discovering the Secrets of the Human Brain, the xenobiology department would certainly feel motivated to assist your Exploration of Chiron's life forms in the future.

Chief Hal Kimberley, Ph.D., Morgan Xenobiology Department

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
Kimberley,

Your proposal is acceptable, though I'm not exactly the most popular woman in Morgan Industries right now and most of the board are dead set on developing a doctrine of flexibility. I'll see what I can do.

We'll also be forwarding data from Project Cipatli. I wouldn't be surprised if Skye's already started something like this, but we've been in private communication with a few Gaians regarding potential trade deals. Their data regarding the native ecology is... not entirely objective, suffice it to say.


Dr. Maria Valdez,
Applied Maritime Solutions Ltd


Changed research votes in my voting post.

Loren1350
Mar 30, 2007
4 Discover
Maybe we can beat her.

Bliss Authority
Jul 6, 2011

I'm not saying it was witches

but it was witches

Mr. Morgan:

We here at Lovelace are committed to the cause of free trade and information flow. We will continue to pursue our policy of prioritizing pure Discovery and Building an economic base above all else. That said, we feel that we should take the advice of our new neighbors and prepare for war. Lovelace, hopefully with the help of Dereamland, will be developing war games for our security forces.

Discover 2. Build 1. Conquer 1

We will continue to provide the very best in metrics and scientific simulation for the benefit of the Settlement Corporation and our stockholders. In partnership with Dreamland, we hope to make the finest productivity (and anti-productivity) software on two worlds.

Science 4. Energy 4. Psych 2.

Sincerely,
Asa Wright.



"Cynthia Roze:"

Really. Do your homework next time, girl: you could have looked up my legal name and checked the passenger manifest before using my illegal name.

Still, I can use this- and so can you. Cooperate with me and I'll... Call it licensing the brand of Sinder Roze... when we get our hacker teams rolling against the Spartans. Meanwhile, I use my respectability as a smokescreen and feed you the tools you need to probe their secrets so hard they'll be walking funny for a week.

Interested, "Roze?"

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Aerdan
Apr 14, 2012

Not Dennis NEDry
I can't hope to match the quite excellent RP posts in this thread. You guys are awesome. :allears:

3 Discover, 1 Conquer and 4 Econ, 1 Psych, 5 Labs.

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