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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
*cracks neck*

here.

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

webmeister posted:

Taylor Swift fans as the mafia
Townies as bearded hipsters

edit; Richard Kingsmill would be the vigilante

I am Pretty Fly for a White Guy, the serial killer.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Matthew Beet posted:

Powder Finger.

:suicide:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM_eb0vVo0k

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzGwKwLmgM

I think we should all listen to this, to be fair just because it rules. Ok with that said I don't know who most of you are, whomever whatever so... next best thing is to cause a meltdown. No this has nothing to do with anything, power is just fun to gently caress with.

##vote Fruity Gordo

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Kommando posted:

And its circular, closed loop time travel.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

GoldStandardConure posted:

*turns into a car, honks horn furiously*

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Plotterboy posted:

##vote Seagull

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Kommando posted:

can't even vote correctly Madame Speaker. this man has no place in a functional democracy.

This is how we got a member of the Liberal Democrats in the senate with almost a full quote on first preferences. Reform above the line voting.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Milky Moor posted:

...what are these 'Liberal Democrats' if which you speak?

the Libertarians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Leyonhjelm

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Can we just agree that Beast Wars is objectively better.

Depth Charge forever.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Kommando posted:

wait, we're Predacons the prehistory deceptacons?=

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2t4MBhGAg8

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Ironic Sex Tourist posted:

##vote Anidav

Because he hosed up the last game something hardcore for town so is a liability either as town or as scum

also like Fruity Gorbo said, he's a big dumb weenie

Fruity Gordo posted:

sup bitches

##vote anidav

d1 is always kinda boring unless someone wigs out

Look at these loving drive by voting lurkers backing each other, and confusingly IST voting for someone based on Fruity's posting... when Fruity hadn't yet posted in the thread so they got ahead of themselves in their off-forum PMs. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

##vote Ironic Sex Tourist

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Avshalom posted:

i consider not voting for anidav to be a sign of suspect motives

I wasn't in the last game and given the last AusPol game I was in I should be turbo voting Milky for bad posting if anyone but I'm looking for scum in the game, not to have a meaningless day one.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Seagull posted:

also lid is scum

Care to back that with anything?

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Seagull posted:

just the weird connection you were trying to draw

but mostly a joke

Honestly the connection was tenuous but drive by vote latchings are loving suss and then getting defensive about them in your follow up posts is pretty scummy.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Kommando posted:

Votecount for Day 1

Anidav (9): SKY COQ, Those On My Left, Splode, Avshalom, Plotterboy, Plotterboy, bell jar, Gough Suppressant, Kommando, Fruity Gordo, Kommando, Kommando, Mithranderp, Kommando, Lid
black_tangled (1): Small Keating, Kommando, Kommando
Avshalom (1): Kommando, Kommando, Kommando
Mithranderp (1): Kommando, Kommando, Bifauxnen, Kommando, Kommando
Matthew Beet (1): GoldStandardConure, Kommando, Kommando
Milky Moor (1): Seagull, Kommando, Kommando
Seagull (1): Plotterboy, Kommando, Kommando
Kommando (1): Matthew Beet, Bifauxnen, Bifauxnen
Those On My Left (0): Kommando, Kommando
Small Keating (0): Kommando, Kommando
Splode (0): Kommando, Kommando
Bifauxnen (0): Kommando, Kommando
Harold Krell (0): Bifauxnen, Bifauxnen, Kommando, Kommando
Tommofork (0): Kommando, Kommando
Lid (0): Kommando, Kommando, Kommando, Kommando
GoldStandardConure (0): Kommando, Kommando
SKY COQ (0): Kommando, Kommando
MC Eating Disorder (0): Kommando, Kommando
Tirade (0): Kommando, Kommando
webmeister (0): Kommando, Kommando
bell jar (0): Kommando, Kommando
rudatron (0): Kommando, Kommando
Plotterboy (0): Kommando, Kommando, Kommando, Kommando
Gough Suppressant (0): Kommando, Kommando
thatbastardken (0): Kommando, Kommando
Fruity Gordo (0): Lid, Kommando, Kommando, Lid

Not Voting (10): Anidav, black_tangled, Harold Krell, MC Eating Disorder, Milky Moor, rudatron, thatbastardken, Tirade, Tommofork, webmeister

With 26 alive, it's 14 votes to lynch. The current deadline is January 21st, 2015 at 9 p.m. EST -- that's in about 7 hours, 11 minutes.

What? I'm not voting for Anidav

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
##vote Ironic Sex Tourist

Just to fix the bot for my vote.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

SKY COQ posted:

4 votes to get rid of Anidav. Think of the energon we could harvest from his scrap.

Literal decepticon think here.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Milky Moor posted:

Unfortunately, if we cannot find a supply of energon on this planet, this may be what we are forced to do in order to survive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRSKoSxFpi8

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

SKY COQ posted:

It was a joke. I've posted my reasons for wanting to continue the momentum above - worried about complacency getting us a no-lynch.

So the options you are trying are Anidav or no lynch? Because it is entirely paranoid to go "if we don't lynch Anidav with all this bandwagon momentum NO ONE WILL DIE!"

##vote SKY COQ

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3695636&userid=202078

Behold the epic of replying a lot and saying nothing at all.

##vote Splode

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Splode posted:

Ok my theories are bad, but they're not "nothing at all", gosh

Your theories so far have been "vote Anidav" and "I don't think Kommando is scum (in essence)". Neither of these qualify as one is just lol anidav and the other is "here's my strongly held view about why a poster isn't scum but is acting scummy" which only serves to be a long winded way of saying "I think they're town". It's scummy behaviour as you are posting a lot but absolutely not saying anything of merit of your own, and even your Kommando was just you agreeing with someone else.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Splode posted:

Actually, I said Kommando WAS acting scummy, but his whole "I'm off Saturday, so I don't care" thing means it probably isn't relevant. You also missed me pointing fingers at Small Keating, for agreeing with Kommando's garbage arguments. You're just still mad about irc.

:jerkbag:

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Kid if i wanted to include things from outside the fame i would have. I'm voting you because you're scummy and when confronted are not defensive as much as being someone revelling in drama. Its a game bro, learn to take a vote as perhaps about your posting and not a personal affront.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

webmeister posted:

Ugh, loving work sucks. I'm gunna be a bit time-limited this afternoon, but I don't think there's anything solid enough to go on for a good lynch. Which tbh makes Anime David as good a target as any.

If he's scum, good. If he's not scum, he's at least stopped from sabotaging our chances again.

##vote Anidav

Also this is useless.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Matthew Beet posted:

Is lid legit trying to stop a vote on Anidav?

I'm legit looking elsewhere because I have learned two things from mafia games:

1. When a player on day one has zero friends and everyone is happy to lynch them then something is amiss. No lynch should ever have everyone happy unless it's a confirmed scum. This is why I am focussing on those who are saying "vote Anidav" and then continuing to post but not saying of anything of merit.

2. When players are citing "it's either this player or no lynch" in a game where we know there are going to be multiple scum then they have not done any looking at all for compatriots of that player as they can't associate any player with that one. No lynching is a threat, not a warning, and is cited by those who want to make sure that their choice dies and to stifle debate.

I'm not trying to stop Anidav being killed, he can be killed and it will give information (though whether or not its helpful will be entirely random as there is no justification in doing it), but there are others around here who are showing more signs of being scum than just a person being a bad poster.

Fake edit: I tried to post this and the thread got locked at the same time. No idea what the hell was going on.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Milky Moor posted:

If we must extinguish the Spark of one of our companions to ensure that they are not a Decepticon, then we need to do it.

Take a bunch of greenie lefties into a game of mafia and they become immoral consequentialists.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

SKY COQ posted:

And an underwhelming transformer

My second transformers toy (after Grimlok) was a Sky Coq too.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Splode, MC and Ironic Sex Tourist.

See also: bell jar (for nothing posting), Small Keating (for jumping from wagon to wagon, including following Kommando logic)

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
##vote MC Eating Disorder

As the deadline is in four hours rather than just leave my single vote wasted in the dispersed 7 single voters will change it to one of the the other three I believe are scum that at least has another vote on it. MC voted Anidav after stating to other posters were scum to them (neither of which were Anidav, one of which is ironic sex tourist who I think is scum as well) and then ignoring it. Then they went on and on about Kommando before an interesting post:

MC Eating Disorder posted:

if anidav flips scum it will probably be LESS helpful because I doubt the scums strategy consisted of hoping anidav wouldn't get lynched almost immediately. If he flips town we can at least assume most of the people that didn't vote for him are also town.

Ok lets assume this is all correct, and in fact I concede there is a little merit to it. What does this mean when we take into account that Anidav is being lynched by both scum and town? Well it means that scum can vote against Anidav and then use that as evidence of their townieness (yeah I know, ironic coming from me the guy not voting for Anidav because a towniness argument). Its a roundabout argument for later days to validate yourself by just not being on the Anidav lynch to say "see guys I DIDN'T VOTE ANIDAV" but the difference here is rather than having a stated legit reason not to they're literally just doing it to appear more townie based off this post.

MC is scum.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Lid posted:

##vote MC Eating Disorder

As the deadline is in four hours rather than just leave my single vote wasted in the dispersed 7 single voters will change it to one of the the other three I believe are scum that at least has another vote on it. MC voted Anidav after stating to other posters were scum to them (neither of which were Anidav, one of which is ironic sex tourist who I think is scum as well) and then ignoring it. Then they went on and on about Kommando before an interesting post:


Ok lets assume this is all correct, and in fact I concede there is a little merit to it. What does this mean when we take into account that Anidav is being lynched by both scum and town? Well it means that scum can vote against Anidav and then use that as evidence of their townieness (yeah I know, ironic coming from me the guy not voting for Anidav because a towniness argument). Its a roundabout argument for later days to validate yourself by just not being on the Anidav lynch to say "see guys I DIDN'T VOTE ANIDAV" but the difference here is rather than having a stated legit reason not to they're literally just doing it to appear more townie based off this post.

MC is scum.

I should rephrase part of this " it means that scum can vote against Anidav and then use that as evidence of their townieness"

was meant to more read " it means that scum can vote for people other than Anidav and then use that as evidence of their townieness" and i used against in the worst possible way

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCdA_b5VeYo

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Tommofork posted:

I had thought of this and concluded it's a wine in front of me deal. This is what bummed me out because I thought I'd had a brainwave and then realised it was pretty useless.

It would be WIFOM if not for the fact he outright posted it as a reasoning. It was a validation tactic rather than a "well how do we know?"

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Kommando posted:

ignoring the fact that milky was bussing Anidav, his scumpal.


wait, hang on.


They vote for anidav to say they didnt vote for anidav?

They went off Anidav with the "I will vote for them but only to hammer oh the agony of it all that it must fall to me to swing the blade". Appearing too eager is scummy so better to appear to make even the most bare of arguments to look for well literally one other person to lynch (namely, they are looking at you).

The thing about "I will change back to hammer" unvotes is that if you are scum voting town THERE IS LITERALLY NO REASON TO UNVOTE. Because you know you have someone voting for them anyway who is just on a different person in the meantime. Its in effect a silent vote.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Milky Moor posted:

May you find peace inside the Allspark.

##vote Anidav

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3ILTijc_gg

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Ironic Sex Tourist posted:

Votefinder can we get a recount please

I think Anidav is at 13, MC is at 2 and a whole lot of randoms are at 1.

Mafia stat: Tithin is also at 1, 1 post.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Tommofork posted:

It's MC E D's first day on the job, it's not unreasonable that he's new, posted his working out, but hadn't taken it to the next logical step.

But mostly why the gently caress would a scum make a note of the tactic they're going to use to blend in? It's only effective if it's not outright stated and so only those who's figured it themsleves out are looking for it.

Because people post whats going through their head and what was going through MC's head was "hmmmm Anidav will flip town, so if I vote for someone else if I plant the seed that those who didn't vote Anidav are town I confirm myself :neckbeard:"

Like you said it's their first day on the job and they may not have thought this through. This however is, while the biggest part, does not change the other elements of MC being scummy. Plus MC has gotten reaaaaaaaal quiet since his name started coming up, even though he only has two votes others have showed agreement with the logic so may be trying to keep his head down.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Splode posted:

Lid seems to have stopped going after me when it didn't get any traction and is now piggy-backing on Kommando's campaign to get MC lynched.

Scummy as gently caress IMO


Bif is usually more eager to fling poo poo, but it was a disaster last game, and even then she still held off to prevent hammers. Still, she does seem to be playing differently.

Early hammers are bad for town, we just have to balance it so we don't accidently run out of time with 13 votes.

Indeed i did stop going for you as it gained no traction as being pragmatic is a good skill. Hell i even said so as my single vote for you was white noise among the six others and the Anidav juggernaut. There is more than one scum in this game and both you and MC are two of them as i've said. No reason to stubbornly pursue one when theres another.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Ironic Sex Tourist posted:

Yeah most people are just flinging poo poo but lid is really making a concerted effort to make things stick, and shifting targets when they don't get traction

He's pinging my sussdar

Oh no a person trying to make conscious arguments as opposed to making GBS threads on the floor. It pings me that this is happening.

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Splode posted:

But why make something stick? No town players really know anything, it's all day 1 speculation. The only way you can know anything for sure is if you're scum.

It is all day one speculation, but if let's say I am wishy-washy and "this is for future days" then it's nothing more than "eh" and I might as well go with the scum and town wagon on Anidav because lets face it even the ones who are town here are voting them not because they're scum but just because they can. Maybe by putting forward thought out arguments and analysis we might actually get scum by forcing them to have to defend themselves or post. If day one was as meaningless as you say we should just skip it, lynch Anidav, and move on to the night phase every game.

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