HOTLANTA MAN posted:

I hope they squash the Ascension and they go away to NXT forever.

DeathChicken posted:

Cesaro is pretty much the only one on the roster I would trust to catch a 230 pound guy flipsydoodling off of a cage.

oatgan posted:

cena/rusev is going to rule by the way

Bigass Moth posted:

I hated the Titus spot. Why bother with that. Just bring out another old timer instead of a jobber with no chance.

pressedbunny posted:

Oh lord, I ust realised. They usually have the Rumble winner open the next night's Raw with a promo.

... They can't be that stupid, right?

AmbassadorFriendly posted:

So I haven't been watching in a couple of months, was that a Philly reaction or is Reigns that despised everywhere?

heel turn posted:

WWE has completely removed the page you have to go through to cancel your network membership. Just a 404 error now.

Good Listener posted:

Is there any chance that there could be something related to Curtis Axel never even entering due to Rowan that could cause some sort of troubles in the future? Or is he just automatically out due to not being able to compete?

achillesforever6 posted:

Really WWE going public kind of ruined it from a creative side of things because shareholders and investors are all cowards and want to play the safe option and want stuff that is created from soulless committee, basically what I'm saying is Roman is the F-35 of wrestling

Mister E posted:

Scripted Roman versus Paul motherfucking Heyman in promo battles is going to be the saddest thing to witness. Heyman is going to run circles around that poor guy.

NickRoweFillea posted:

HogX posted:

My favorite thing about this is everyone screaming that wrestling is ruined, forever. It's good to me.


Also, I saw a .gif of DDP. Was he in a match or was it just him coming out and randomly diamond cuttering people?

Tatum Girlparts posted:

I know I'm coming off like a huge apologist here but I legitimately think cancelling over the end of the rumble is gonna send a poo poo message if it does at all. Like, you guys remember how 90% of the PPV was great right? You really sure the best message is "ALL OF THIS WAS poo poo GET THIS OUT OF HERE"?

Cabbit posted:

Literally the only good match on that card was Lesnar/Cena/Rollins, and that had Cena in it so I can't even support that on principle. Like, the entire Mizdow match was purposefully NOT bringing in Sandow to spite the crowd.

TheOneTrueKing posted:

Better than Bo Dallas.

Nonsense posted:

Obviously preparing for the surprise Wrestlemania main event.

UltimoDragonQuest posted:

It's basically impossible and not even that exciting but I would have Bryan retire HHH. It's easy to write and they must get the meta heat away from making GBS threads on Reigns and everything.

They could always pay Brock to wrestle Bryan at Fastlane.

Critical posted:

Can we also discuss how awful New Day is?

I have never heard such pure unadulterated disgust from an audience until Kofi and Big E hit the Rumble. It wasn't even really booing at first, just a huge collective groan, like the entire audience was going "Jesus Christ NO!" in unison.

Cornwind Evil posted:

...I try to remember, I'm not there.

I don't know what kind of man Vince McMahon is, or Paul Levesque, or Kevin Dunn. I am not a trained psychologist, I have never spoken to them or anyone who knows them. Hyperbole is a dangerous force: it has been suggested the reason Vlad Tepes has such a nasty reputation might be because a bunch of enemy propoganda (ie outright lies) got mixed in with history and presented as fact; it's true there are many stories, but I, or none of us, were there. It's the same reason trials are innocent until proven guilty and how poorly that works out when people ignore it (OJ Simpson comes to mind). I'm not there. I don't know what it's like to run the business, or answer to shareholders, or deal with the kind of people who are in that business.

I also remember the phrase 'Never attribute to malice what you can attribute to incompetence'. I try and keep my bad feelings separate from my thoughts, that virtually all mistakes are made in snap judgment heat of the moments.

And yet...even IF I cut away my rage, my smark frustration, even as I try to resist making a mountain out of a molehill and create a conspiracy theory out of incompetence....it won't go away.

Last year's Rumble. How Vince was so certain that Batista vs Orton would be great. How the crowd poo poo on it so hard that for once, they forced a change in plans. Vince, such an alleged control freak he becomes furious if he sneezes, forced to change his plans so his big 30th anniversary show wouldn't end in the crowd taking an even bigger steaming dump on it.

CM Punk quitting, and then months later raking Vince and co over the coals, and deservedly so. How Vince was supposedly saddened by this, but Triple H was furious, and that the pair always hated each other.

Philadelphia. A supersmark city. And that story of the time Stephanie supposedly called up and fired a writer six times because she felt he wasn't sufficiently upset by being fired.

Honestly...this whole show, despite my best efforts to be rational, reeks of intentional spite. Of angry manchildren unable to strike back at who they want to, so they punish the closest equivalent. Everything was purposely arranged to piss people off. Because the people in charge have to make sure everyone knows they have the power, just like when Dusty Rhodes was dressed in polka dots and WCW was buried and ECW was brought back in a purposely watered down form so the memories of the old ECW could be tainted.

I also think of that old phrase on Mythbusters, I reject your reality and substitute my own. It really seems like that's what Vince tried to do. Except reality isn't like that. Reality just IS, and it won't bend no matter how much he wants it too.

Guess ball's in our court now. If the crowds keep making GBS threads on Reigns and cheering Bryan...well, worked once.

Strawberry Panda posted:

Reigns vs. Brock might still be a cool match.

Thauros posted:

That's the other half of the equation people have been ignoring. Not only have they hosed up Reigns' babyface push, they've also basically turned Lesnar outright face. How the gently caress could they possibly expect the WM crowd to cheer for Reigns at this point?

DeathChicken posted:

Man, they sure made a leap from "Dolph Ziggler has saved the WWE and his coworkers recognize him as a Big Thing" to "Dolph Ziggler is knocked unconscious and dumped out of the ring in like a minute" in the span of a couple of months.

Tato posted:

That's a good way to describe it. It's all so uncomfortable, I can't recall seeing a gimmick this bad in quite some time. From the weird pre-match banter and stuff that they try to force to no reaction, to the desperation in the ring as they try to get a chant going and NO ONE participates, it's all so sad. It's so embarrassing people can't even muster up a pity cheer for them, they just stare in silence.

UltimoDragonQuest posted:

Watching the Rumble again because I hate myself.
The crowd dies when Bryan is eliminated.
That is an Undertaker at Wrestlemania reaction and these fuckers fight it.

triplexpac posted:

Oh and to bring up an old debate: I watched the Rumble with a buddy who hasn't watched any wrestling really. Almost immediately when he saw the New Day he said "wow that's pretty racist"

Stealthed Zombie posted:

So did no one tell the twitter guy yet or...

ColonelJohnMatrix posted:

Yeah, that was pretty uncomfortable.

Hammerstein posted:

Probably the same people who defended the Charlie Hebdo massacre, cause of "hurt feelings"...

achillesforever6 posted:

No see when HHH takes control things will get much better even though HHH loves big strong men just as much as Vince!!!

Lid posted:

How does he look now again?

Fluffy Bunnies posted:

Also if Raw is cancelled that means they only get three Raws to build Fast Lane.

Niwrad posted:

Bo Dallas and Big E were the last two NXT champs and they are as far down the card as you can get. So it's not like being NXT Champion means anything to them.