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Too scummy to be scum? Ha!
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Just came up with a great trivia team name, Trivvy Azalea. Original name do not steal.
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Jan 23, 2015 05:44
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Obligatory ##vote merk
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Jan 23, 2015 05:45
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True and Real posted:MEINBERG, give me your take on the roles claimed by Keane and Ernie in as much detail as possible, and tell me what you think of Chic's sideline not-ready-to-jump-in analysis. My first reaction to Ernie's claim is that it's complete and utter bullshit. But on the other hand, if Ernie actually has that role, it's good that he claimed it this early. I would expand, but my thoughts are still in process, and I don't want to risk the possibility of exposing other town power roles to scrutiny due to me being accidentally correct in my random flailing. I have my doubts about whether Keane is joking or not. On the one hand, my finely honed instinct says that Keane is being ironic. On the other hand, my ~gut~ tells me other things, that Keane is hiding behind his typical irony in order to, in fact, soft claim that he has a power role. Or perhaps, and this is the most likely, that he's actually a vanilla town, and that is his powerful role. There is too much irony to properly parse. Chic is attempting to generate content without generating content. You might say that I'm engaging in the same sort of behavior, but my ambivalence is due to the inherent ambiguity of the situation.
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Jan 23, 2015 06:15
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Meinberg I'm sorry the doctors said there was nothing they could do, your post was so bad it had to be put down.
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Jan 23, 2015 06:26
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Somberbrero posted:Meinberg I'm sorry the doctors said there was nothing they could do, your post was so bad it had to be put down. gently caress
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Jan 23, 2015 06:28
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Somberbrero posted:Meinberg I'm sorry the doctors said there was nothing they could do, your post was so bad it had to be put down. 
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Jan 23, 2015 06:30
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I have failed the game of mafia well goodbye
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Jan 23, 2015 06:35
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I haven't even read Ernie's claim and I'm sure he lying
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Jan 23, 2015 06:37
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Confirmed
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Jan 23, 2015 06:47
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how is it swish it doesn't even take the shot
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Jan 23, 2015 06:53
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You miss 100% of the posts you don't make
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Jan 23, 2015 06:54
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Despite finding Dickgnoll's approach to generating thread content forced, apparently it worked. The aggressive approach on Meinberg gave me a false positive on him at first but it makes sense to me as town now. While the actual reads in Meinberg's post are fine I can't ignore the presentation. It's entirely too self aware and reaching. The callout on Chic is what makes it for me, it's as though he read the last couple posts and thought he needed to say more. I am tempted to say "That's just Meinberg," but I know he'll do it for me. Would vote. Ernie's claim strikes me as true. I think it'd be to our benefit to not tunnel in on that discussion as it's going to be a huge distraction. His summation of Keane was very close to my intepretation. Ernie. posted:Neither do I, and I think he's scum for them. Keane likes to be zany and jumpy but there's a blood-thirsty quality to them that is entirely lacking in self-doubt that makes him probably very scum. Yeah, I have trouble reading Keane's posts as anything other than overeager scum play. ##vote CCKeane
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Jan 23, 2015 07:13
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Ernie. posted:Rascyc and Kaschei.
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Jan 23, 2015 07:26
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^ that was a breadcrumb
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Jan 23, 2015 07:27
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I don't want to vote Keane D1, it's been too long since I played with the darling of SA mafia  I think we should lynch Ernie. Even if his claim is true, we should get him out of the way so the watcher/tracker can get proper results if they find the nightkill. ##vote Ernie
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Jan 23, 2015 09:02
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I misread Dickgnoll as Dickgolf and lost my train of thought
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Jan 23, 2015 09:36
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I invite you to do the same
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Jan 23, 2015 09:36
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Ecco you should have started this after the weekend
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Jan 23, 2015 11:22
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Rarity posted:I don't want to vote Keane D1, it's been too long since I played with the darling of SA mafia Somberbrero posted:I really do not care for those Keane posts, actually.
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Jan 23, 2015 11:24
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Just wanted to let you guys know I can cast Identify as a free (night) action, I'm like a loving Wizard
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Jan 23, 2015 11:25
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Ernie. posted:So since both Keane and Diqnol have said they have ~powerful~ roles, I'm going to assume it's a role madness game and I should offer up what I know before it blows up later.
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Jan 23, 2015 11:29
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bowmore posted:Just wanted to let you guys know I can cast Identify as a free (night) action, I'm like a loving Wizard I'm a diviner and do the same thing. Ernie. posted:So since both Keane and Diqnol have said they have ~powerful~ roles, I'm going to assume it's a role madness game and I should offer up what I know before it blows up later. So if I understand your claim correctly, you are not only a miller but you mask killers to a watcher, give false positives to trackers and are a killing role for weak docs, right? But your post leads with saying it's the fact two people have vaguely claimed ~powerful~ roles that means you think this is a role madness game and that you should claim; not the complex and anti-town nature of your role itself that informs your speculation and necessitates the claim?
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Jan 23, 2015 13:05
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Asiina posted:The only way I'd ever believe that claim would be if it was done immediately as that is a supremely lovely role that is bound to get you cuddled eventually if you don't claim, so I believe Ernie. I don't like this post, seems unnecessarily wordy, maybe that's an aesthetic complaint more than anything useful mafia-wise, but it made me wonder if it could be an attempt to look like she's saying more than she is.
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Jan 23, 2015 13:28
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Why is everyone claiming. Stfu.
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Jan 23, 2015 13:57
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Yay oh lovely posts! I should be leaving already but I will say-- I think it's weird Ernie claimed but didn't claim in his first post. He votes Keane first with ~vibes~ and participated in the Lumpen content thing. If I had such a lovely role it would be the first thing on my mind, and what Keane and Diqsol said wouldn't be the turning point of MMM YES NOW I should claim.
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Jan 23, 2015 13:58
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True and Real posted:Everyone name two people you would cop out of the gate in this game. You and merk. Ernie's a close third before his super miller claim. Speaking off, Ernie. posted:So since both Keane and Diqnol have said they have ~powerful~ roles, I'm going to assume it's a role madness game and I should offer up what I know before it blows up later. A weak doc or cop dies if they hit scum, right? So Ernie's not saying he investigates as scum to a weak doc or cop, he's saying he would kill one if they visited him. And as long as he's alive, he's saying that watchers and trackers are useless for finding "the nightkiller." If there are multiple kills, does he mask all of them that night? Ernie, can you clarify that? CCKeane posted:It'll get shittier the more you talk about it so hush up. Ernest made his claim early and I don't think this needs to go further than what he's said. Ernie's role as claimed is important to understand because it directly affects other town roles. The number of claims being made right now are stupid, but they do tell a story, and Ernie's claim has an effect on how people should play their night actions. Let me lay out a few things in my next post about what I think is happening, then I'll move on to talking about alignments later.
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Jan 23, 2015 14:13
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It isn't an invalid thought to maybe lynch Ernie immediately. If he's being honest, he prevents town from using the night for useful information gathering if, say, we have an ecco cop. Secondly, the claim is super convenient and something Ernie would do as scum for a laugh. Third, Ernie is a fucker. I'll revisit this idea later but for a d1 lynch, it's not such a bad idea.
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Jan 23, 2015 14:16
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EccoRaven posted:One group of bandits - the Sisters of Hecate - were particularly successful at raiding trade caravans, looting temples, and adventuring into the deepest and darkest regions of Arrentia in search of long lost treasure. Over their history they've managed to assemble quite the haul of gold coins, jewelry, and magickal artifacts of all shapes and sizes. Many brave souls have attempted to destroy the bandits (and run away with as much gold as they could carry), but the Sisters are resilient, and have withstood assault time and time again. Notice the bolded parts. I think we're in an items game, where powers are provided by items in addition to intrinsic role powers. bowmore posted:Just wanted to let you guys know I can cast Identify as a free (night) action, I'm like a loving Wizard Puntification posted:I'm a diviner and do the same thing. And here it sounds like the powers given by the items are unknown, because these are two people claiming the power to identify. It's DnD, and you can either wait for an identify or can use the item blind. And that brings us back to Ernie's claim. Let's say you've got an item, but you don't know the specific power it gives you on use. You use it on Ernie, and it turns out that it was a weak doc power. You're dead. That's true regardless of whether Ernie is telling the truth or not, because either he's scum or he's exactly what he claimed. So Ernie, with this claim, is effectively off limits for any night actions. Without his claim, there's a real chance that he would have killed several random item users. If you have an item and you don't know what it does, stay away from Ernie.
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Jan 23, 2015 14:29
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True and Real posted:It isn't an invalid thought to maybe lynch Ernie immediately. If he's being honest, he prevents town from using the night for useful information gathering if, say, we have an ecco cop. Secondly, the claim is super convenient and something Ernie would do as scum for a laugh. Third, Ernie is a fucker. I'll revisit this idea later but for a d1 lynch, it's not such a bad idea. I'm not convinced on the claim yet, honestly. I keep going back and forth because making the claim as he did lines up perfectly with him being the scum nightkiller or an SK and trying to set up to avoid being labeled as such, but it's an Ecco game. I'm stuck in this weird loop of whether or not I would believe Ecco would make a role like that.
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Jan 23, 2015 14:32
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kaschei posted:You've been drinking again, I haven't been a good town player in years You were a good town player? CCKeane posted:Both Diqnol and I claimed remarkably powerful roles. Ernest decided to climb right in. You and Diqnol (both known to lie when you want) literally said, "I have a powerful role" and nothing else. Ernie claimed one of the most hosed up miller roles I've ever seen.
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Jan 23, 2015 14:37
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Puntification posted:So if I understand your claim correctly, you are not only a miller but you mask killers to a watcher, give false positives to trackers and are a killing role for weak docs, right? But your post leads with saying it's the fact two people have vaguely claimed ~powerful~ roles that means you think this is a role madness game and that you should claim; not the complex and anti-town nature of your role itself that informs your speculation and necessitates the claim? Punt summed up everything I was trying to say in multiple posts in a single paragraph. Someone explain to me, why Keane? Don't use the excuse of Akward Posting.
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Jan 23, 2015 14:42
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Hello
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Jan 23, 2015 14:42
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merk posted:Hello Hello
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Jan 23, 2015 14:45
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Byers2142 posted:I'm not convinced on the claim yet, honestly. I keep going back and forth because making the claim as he did lines up perfectly with him being the scum nightkiller or an SK and trying to set up to avoid being labeled as such, but it's an Ecco game. I'm stuck in this weird loop of whether or not I would believe Ecco would make a role like that. Byers2142 posted:Punt summed up everything I was trying to say in multiple posts in a single paragraph. He jumped into the game with a pr claim, a post restriction to lighten his move, and an immediate shift to someone else. That makes sense to me as scum, less so as town. It says he doesn't want us to believe his claim, but also that we should, and also that he doesn't care who is lynched. His response to my accusation is also bad.
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Jan 23, 2015 14:49
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Ah, I see it kept the first post quoted. I guess I'll say that Ernie's role as claimed suggests he's the optimal d1 lynch barring shenanigans.
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Jan 23, 2015 14:50
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merk posted:Hello Take on Ernie claim and Keane early approach
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Jan 23, 2015 14:51
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I expect the posting to kick up soon. This is an ecco game, dangit!
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Jan 23, 2015 14:55
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merk posted:Hello 您好 True and Real posted:Ah, I see it kept the first post quoted. I guess I'll say that Ernie's role as claimed suggests he's the optimal d1 lynch barring shenanigans. Here's the thing, you're making an alignment call on Keane but not considering Ernie from the perspective of his alignment. You want to lynch Ernie irregardless of his alignment; I'm trying to figure out whether I believe him based on alignment (and a bit of consideration about Ecco as a mod). You know how I feel about arguments for lynch that are alignment-neutral.
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Did Diqnol get a name and avatar change?
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