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Blackface in crowd | 129 | 55.36% | |
References to Lord of the Rings | 104 | 44.64% | |
Total: | 233 votes |
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WG Grace was also a massive cheat in fairness
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# ? Apr 15, 2021 17:56 |
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 22:28 |
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exmachina posted:Ugh I read the comments, knowing they would be terrible, and they were. How do people not understand that roundarm has always been legal? W. C. Grace bowled roundarm. The only reason more bowlers don't is because you need to be really accurate.
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# ? Apr 15, 2021 21:51 |
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When I'm bowling I'll often slip in a round-arm delivery from time-to-time in a vain attempt to beguile or confuse the batter. It never works
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# ? Apr 15, 2021 23:06 |
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Charles 2 of Spain posted:Lol at these idiot gomers thinking Malinga's action is also illegal. Welcome to the wonderful world of stuff comments. I'll give you a clue about why they are against this bowler, Malinga and of course Muralitharan. It's racism
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# ? Apr 16, 2021 02:04 |
Murali was a chucker
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# ? Apr 16, 2021 03:04 |
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Ben Stokes missing the New Zealand tests to avoid conflict of interest (and have finger surgery).
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# ? Apr 16, 2021 12:43 |
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Mohammad Abbas has taken 5 wickets for 3 runs in 13 balls. Numbers 2-6 in the Middlesex order fell like skittles. Art.
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# ? Apr 16, 2021 12:49 |
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And even without him, Pakistan are rolling the Saffers in the T20s.
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# ? Apr 16, 2021 19:05 |
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Don't know if people saw this yesterday from the Lancashire county game. https://twitter.com/lancscricket/status/1383093203633643525?s=19
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# ? Apr 17, 2021 10:07 |
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tanglewood1420 posted:In red ball cricket both sides are trying to make something happen - bowlers are trying to take wickets, batsman are trying to score runs. Although at the same time the method of taking wickets has changed, the long hop that's a fraction faster/slower than the batsman was expecting that leads them to find the fielder instead of the rope becomes a big deal. I go on about him a lot, but Liam Plunkett rumbling in and dismissing high-quality set batsmen with what were generally described by commentators as "bad shots to bad balls" was as big a part in England's World Cup victory as any of their explosive batting lineup. Sorta makes me wonder why Wagner doesn't play more limited overs cricket for NZ. Paul.Power fucked around with this message at 11:34 on Apr 20, 2021 |
# ? Apr 20, 2021 11:32 |
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Huh, they ECB are scrapping the position of selector.
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# ? Apr 20, 2021 19:45 |
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Paul.Power posted:Sorta makes me wonder why Wagner doesn't play more limited overs cricket for NZ.
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# ? Apr 21, 2021 02:01 |
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goatface posted:Huh, they ECB are scrapping the position of selector. I am very interested in seeing the impact this has on the Test side and if it will become the real focus of the team. Hope this means that some new batters will be given a chance to compete for a spot in the side.
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# ? Apr 21, 2021 12:02 |
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So do the players have to fight, royal rumble style, to get a place on the team? Last 14 standing get in the side?
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# ? Apr 21, 2021 12:18 |
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The head coach is becoming the selector as well is the idea
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# ? Apr 21, 2021 12:59 |
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I'm not sure it's the best idea really. It means the coach is more accountable which I suppose is no bad thing, but it's not like the coach of a team with as packed a schedule as England's has any time to travel around the country watching the County Championship. It's nowhere near as easy for the England head coach to do that in cricket as it is football due to the inherent nature of the sport.
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# ? Apr 21, 2021 13:15 |
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It does risk the team becoming isolated from the rest of the game. They're at least giving him a dedicated scout (though it is James Taylor). I wonder if it's eventually going to be about splitting up the teams some more. Give different formats dedicated coaches who can pick super-specialists for their squad that a more general looking selector might not consider.
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# ? Apr 21, 2021 14:08 |
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it must be weird to be playing in the IPL, earning millions of dollars while pandemic hell erupts around you
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# ? Apr 21, 2021 18:12 |
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https://twitter.com/charmada/status/1384967542326841346
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# ? Apr 21, 2021 22:05 |
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Yorkshire are 102/5 and it's not even lunch time yet. I don't like this at all
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# ? Apr 22, 2021 13:00 |
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Ok guys so I have been watching some baseball videos on youtube. Does anyone know who Ichiro Suzuki is? I wish he played Cricket. He could have been one of the greatest No. 4's ever in test cricket, and I would open with him in T20. Anybody else have strong feelings about baseball players?
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# ? Apr 23, 2021 02:30 |
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There's an American at our club who played baseball at a high level in college in the US and was even drafted by an MLB team, though in the 18th round or something. He decided not to pursue a career as minor leagues get paid sod all and the chance of making it to the big leagues is so slim. Anyway, he's been playing cricket for three or four years now in Australia and he is a pretty good player in our 2s. His technique is horrible though, like 8 year old just learning cricket at school level terrible. He gets away with it purely because of his hand-eye skills and strength. At the start of every season one of the experienced guys at the club tries to take him aside and spend a couple of sessions working on the basics with him - getting your body in line, moving your foot to the pitch of the ball, keeping your elbow high etc. - and he always looks awful and eventually rejects it before going back to just standing a foot outside leg stump, trying to clout anything that is hitting the stumps and leave anything else. Now obviously this guy is nowhere near the standard of Ichiro, or anyone who even made an MLB roster yet alone a future Baseball Hall of Famer, but I think it's far from a given that anyone who is elite at one sport would be a success in the other. You are fighting so much muscle memory and years and years of repetition to transfer your skills across. In some ways it may be even more difficult for professionals considering they will have even more 'programming' to overcome. tanglewood1420 fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Apr 23, 2021 |
# ? Apr 23, 2021 03:29 |
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Yeah Ichiro would be hosed if you bowled anything near his body or even turned the ball slightly. Would be an absolute gun fielder though if you trained him not to use a glove.
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# ? Apr 23, 2021 08:35 |
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Joe Root, county season 2021, first 5 innings: 16, 13, 11, 101, 5. It's a pretty good inversion of his "get 50 but never a ton" stereotype.
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# ? Apr 23, 2021 11:51 |
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tanglewood1420 posted:Now obviously this guy is nowhere near the standard of Ichiro, or anyone who even made an MLB roster yet alone a future Baseball Hall of Famer, but I think it's far from a given that anyone who is elite at one sport would be a success in the other. You are fighting so much muscle memory and years and years of repetition to transfer your skills across. In some ways it may be even more difficult for professionals considering they will have even more 'programming' to overcome. I know what you mean, I once worked with a guy who played state level tennis who I could absolutely thrash at table tennis, because despite his hand-eye coordination skills, when the ball came flying at him he'd just revert to his tennis shots and miss by miles. But at the same time, there's a huge number of athletes that are highly skilled in multiple sports. Remember that the current women's #1 ranked tennis player Ash Barty played in the BBL, Elysse Perry plays football for Australia, Ian Botham played in the football league while a Test cricketer etc. Even the Waugh brothers were basically top level soccer players before giving it up for cricket. To really make it at the top level you obviously need huge amounts of muscle memory, but I think generic "athletic ability" can take you a long way.
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# ? Apr 23, 2021 12:31 |
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Sussex go from 168/4 to 221 all out, Yorkshire are good again, everyone calm down. Also David Bedingham 233 not out in the Durham match
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# ? Apr 23, 2021 14:11 |
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goatface posted:Joe Root, county season 2021, first 5 innings: 16, 13, 11, 101, 5. And another 5. 151 runs in six innings against county filth.
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# ? Apr 23, 2021 17:07 |
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I agree in general about cross-skill, but Ichiro in particular struck me as someone who would be good at cricket. He can obviously see the ball extremely well and he is infamous for his infield or ground balls. He has 5 of the top 20 seasons for total hits, including number 1 and 2, He gets over the ball instead of under it a lot for modern baseball and is superfast to the base. And obviously his fielding would rival the best in cricket
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# ? Apr 24, 2021 03:56 |
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webmeister posted:
Max Walker played for the Melbourne Demons in the then VFL for 6 seasons, even earning a Brownlow vote. Simon O'Donnell played 24 games with St Kilda. Craig Bradley, (Carlton AFL legend), also played first class cricket for SA and Vic. Deion Sanders played NFL and MLB and was quite good at both. There are a lot of polyglot sportspeople out there. In the AFLW there are particularly a bunch, because there was previously no way to play AFL at the top level, so these naturally gifted sportswomen played their second choice sport, only to come back to footy once it became possible to play it at a top level. Case in point, Erin Phillips, 2 time WNBA Champion and also AFLW Premiership Captain.
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# ? Apr 24, 2021 07:05 |
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I agree with comments so far. I would like to add that I think the professionalism of sport makes that less likely now. Max Walker et al went through at a time where natural talent was not identified and curated from a young age to the degree or volume it is now. Especially in sports with sufficient participation like both men’s cricket and baseball have. Women’s cricket and Australian women’s soccer does not have anywhere near the same participation so there is still scope for a good athlete to be good across sports relative to who they are playing against just like Walker. I’m going to look this fellow up though.
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# ? Apr 24, 2021 10:27 |
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Looks like a very enthralling test in sri Lanka with the combined score at 10/1050. Exciting 5th day coming up.
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# ? Apr 24, 2021 13:22 |
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Christ, even for Sri Lanka that's bad.
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# ? Apr 24, 2021 13:36 |
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BrigadierSensible posted:Max Walker played for the Melbourne Demons in the then VFL for 6 seasons, even earning a Brownlow vote. Patrick Mahomes and Russell Wilson both played baseball and football in college, and I think both were drafted as baseball players before turning to the NFL full time, and Mahomes could easily be as good as Deion Sanders in MLB. But for every one of those guys, there's a Tim Tebow
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# ? Apr 24, 2021 13:39 |
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goatface posted:Christ, even for Sri Lanka that's bad. Do you get fined for a poor quality pitch when it's a road, or do you have to embed corrugated iron for the ICC to give a poo poo? [edit] Also, I dimly recall some England footballers being pretty handy cricketers. My brain is telling me it's Gary/Phil Neville, but that could be wrong and I can't be bothered checking.
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# ? Apr 24, 2021 14:06 |
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You're correct
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# ? Apr 24, 2021 14:17 |
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I don't think it's a bad enough road that they would. If both sides were 500-odd for three or four, maybe. They seem to get more annoyed if most of the players get centuries than they do if a few players either side get 150-200. ~600 runs coming from 3 players and then another 400 from the other 11 who batted can be handwaved away as "well it was just those batsmen having a really good day". If the surface finally gives and some token wickets fall tomorrow they'll definitely get away with it.
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# ? Apr 24, 2021 14:29 |
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I feel like certain great hitters who could either hit to all fields or improvise (Ichiro, Tony Gwynn, Vlad Guerrero Sr., Manny Ramirez) would do better in T20 but not in test where they could really attack them. I especially like the idea of Vlad Guerrero smashing yorkers like he did a few times in the MLB.
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# ? Apr 24, 2021 16:05 |
Think about how bad 10 and 11s are compared to real batsmen, and they're elite level sportsmen with access to the best coaching and facilities and have been training for decades in the actual sport.
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# ? Apr 24, 2021 23:54 |
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Aggregate bowling average of 75, I still think they'll get away with it.
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# ? Apr 25, 2021 12:31 |
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 22:28 |
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Cricinfo had made some more 'improvements' to their interface - this time we lose the nice clean player stats on their profile in favour of a much busier and annoying jumble of garbage.
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# ? Apr 25, 2021 12:41 |