Cricket 2012: Cricket has always been a game stuck in the past

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Paul.Power: Feb 7, 2009; The three roles of APCs:
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RideTheSpiral posted:

Why would you have a scrub fielder like Jimmy Anderson at short midwicket?

Because he's not a scrub fielder?

# ¿ Jan 23, 2015 10:05

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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 22:55

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IceAgeComing posted:

nah the twats would probably have complained and gotten the kids banned or something

Bowl underarm, maybe? Get someone to wander around persistently by the sightscreen?

# ¿ Feb 1, 2015 15:24

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Lungboy posted:

It's lucky that England are currently so good we can leave Stokes out of the squad. It's not like he's in good form with the bat at the moment or anything, and with Woakes, Ravi et al in such stellar form they definitely deserve to be there over him.

Woakes has been in pretty good form though? I mean, the final was a nightmare for him, but he did pretty well in the rest of the tri-series and was one of our better bowlers in Sri Lanka.

Ravi has no excuse, admittedly.

Paul.Power fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Feb 2, 2015

# ¿ Feb 2, 2015 17:16

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JingleBells posted:

Our kit for the World Cup has been revealed

ENGLAND

It's an improvement over Waitrose, at least (even if that is still on the shoulder)

# ¿ Feb 5, 2015 20:55

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newmalden posted:

Team by team guide from the London Grauniad, including fairly comprehensive takes on the minnows. Not as amusing as the OP.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/feb/12/cricket-world-cup-team-guide

Manchester Grauniad, thank you very much :colbert:

(Granted it hasn't been called that for a long time and hasn't been edited in Manchester for a slightly less long time, but still, if you're going to append a city on the front...).

# ¿ Feb 12, 2015 18:16

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runoverbobby posted:

"I feel a lot better after today" - Eoin Joseph Gerard Morgan

Makes sense to me, at least now the only way is up.

I mean, losing to Bangladesh, Scotland or Afghanistan probably wouldn't feel too bad after this.

Paul.Power fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Feb 20, 2015

# ¿ Feb 20, 2015 07:19

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Scylo posted:

Do England have the worst bowling line-up in the competition?

The impression the stats give is that they're basically good at one thing - taking wickets early on - and other than that they're really bad. So if you get a day like today when they don't take wickets early on...

We really should just have Anderson and Woakes bowl the first 20 overs and hang the consequences.

# ¿ Mar 1, 2015 04:30

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opposable thumbs.db posted:

I haven't really ever watched much cricket before. At the current rate of scoring, Sri Lanka are behind England's 309, but the impression I'm getting from the announcers is that they are doing quite well. Is that because later on in the match the bowlers get tired and it's easier to score?

edit: well until that catch, at least

The main thing is that the later in the innings you go, the less you stand to lose from playing risky shots. A good batsman getting out doing something crazy in the fifth over is potentially wasting 45 overs, a good batsman getting out doing something crazy in the 45th over is only wasting five overs. So run rates naturally tend to accelerate towards the end of the innings.

This goes double at this World Cup, with only four fielders allowed outside the 30-yard circle.

# ¿ Mar 1, 2015 04:44

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Scylo posted:

i love the way England play cricket, they get a set batsman out finally and the very next thing they do is bring Joe Root on to bowl.

England need to get Swann out of retirement and play Tredwell so they can have a Grand Orthodox Off-Spinners' Gala.

# ¿ Mar 1, 2015 04:51

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It's at times like this we really need Tredwell's ability to bowl six balls in a row without one of them being really bad.

# ¿ Mar 1, 2015 05:15

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Atherton, Gower, Holding and Lloyd (in limited doses) are my favourites. Most of the TMS team are good, too. Hussain's all right but I just find Esturine really grating.

# ¿ Apr 6, 2015 16:32

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RideTheSpiral posted:

I have no idea who this Graves guy is but I like him. He is laying down some epic owns on the ECB establishment.

He was chairman of Yorkshire. Given they just won the Championship and are supplying nearly half the England squad, he certainly has plenty of mandate to lay down some owns.

I'm not 100% sure on his four-day Tests idea, it might work in England, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand, but I don't know if the days are long enough in the subcontinent and the West Indies to have it without ridiculous amount of time lost to bad light.

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# ¿ Apr 9, 2015 08:53

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goatface posted:

What's the name of that big Indian lad that was on the England tour? Bowled nicely and got absolutely gently caress all off it.

Pankaj Singh, I believe.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2015 16:28

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Shmoses posted:

Is it just me or do England have three number threes in the top four?

If you go by where they bat for their counties, they have a number 4 opening, a number 5 at 3 and a number 3 at 4. And an opener at 5 for good measure.

# ¿ Apr 14, 2015 05:38

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Brett824 posted:

INCREDIBLE commentators curse on TMS just then.

It was remarkable, Vaughan was just commenting on how Cook's footwork was better than last year, and Cook immediately prodded a wide one to gully.

To be fair, it wasn't his footwork that was at fault :v:

# ¿ Apr 15, 2015 20:14

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I don't know about involved in run outs, but it looks like Bell has been run out five times in Tests. Inzy was only run out six times, oddly enough.

The leader, run out fifteen times? Guess who.

# ¿ Apr 15, 2015 21:33

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Dysgenesis posted:

It more about quality than quantity with Inzy (although there is plenty of quantity too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQh70VV-RaY

Also lol at Pontings ability to get run out at the critical point of the innings/match/series.

Haha, fair enough, I didn't think about ODIs and oh my goodness there are some silly ones there.

# ¿ Apr 16, 2015 14:09

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On the other hand, Broad suddenly seems to have remembered that he can actually be a decent bowler when he bowls full.

I'd say it's lower order wickets, but Ramdin, Holder and Roach were key for the West Indies last time round, so hey.

Paul.Power fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Apr 22, 2015

# ¿ Apr 22, 2015 20:07

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Burn Down Canberra posted:

Joe Root for his age is an absurdly good talent. Him and Kane Williamson are scarily good for under 25.

Can't wait to see how England ruin him lolz.

Sadly, I can already think of three possibilities:

1. That back problem. If it becomes chronic, he might go the way of Atherton and Clarke.
2. Getting the captaincy and reacting badly to it.
3. Going back to opening the batting and reacting badly to it.

Or hey, all three at once because the selectors never rain but they pour. On the other hand, he's showed in the way that he's bounced back from the Ashes tour that he's pretty good at working out when something's going wrong and then fixing it, so maybe he'll overcome these things too. For now, I'm just going to enjoy it while it lasts :unsmith:

Paul.Power fucked around with this message at 09:01 on Apr 24, 2015

# ¿ Apr 24, 2015 08:58

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Oh for goodness' sake, why isn't Anderson on after lunch?

# ¿ Apr 25, 2015 18:01

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So I'm in this slightly weird position where, whenver I look out of my bedroom window, I see Andrew Strauss staring back:

I mean, the van's been around for a while, and I sort of went "oh hey, Andrew Strauss" the first time I saw it, but now it's parked directly opposite and it's a little off-putting.

# ¿ Apr 30, 2015 14:29

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IceAgeComing posted:

I liked that they checked the no ball; just to make sure whether to give him out lbw or run out

Well hey, it probably made a big difference to Duminy.

Also Trott :doh:

# ¿ May 1, 2015 15:11

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So what you folks are saying is that Ian Bell is a lot worse than his statistics suggest?

Statistically, Bell's really interesting. He gets to 50 a greater percentage of the time than any England cricketer in the last few decades. But he also gets out in single figures as often as Graeme Hick. It's no wonder he's so polarising - it's like he's simultaneously worse and better than his statistics suggest.

Also, oh Cook :gbsmith:

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# ¿ May 1, 2015 22:25

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Going back to our earlier chat about England all-time greats and it feeling weird to see Ian Bell in there with them, here's a graph showing a breakdown of the careers of England batsmen with at least 15 centuries (including this match):

As noted, Bell has by far the greatest proportion of single figure scores, but he also has the greatest proportion of 50+ scores of anyone who's made their debut after the 1950s. It's really weird.

This chart is normalised - for some extra perspective, here's a non-normalised chart:

# ¿ May 2, 2015 22:14

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"You don't want to give Chris Jordan catching practice"

Nicely timed, Nasser.

# ¿ May 3, 2015 18:40

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Smorgasbord posted:

I'm extremely pessimistic about this series for New Zealand for some reason.

Well, last time round you lost 2-0 easily after nearly beating us in NZ, so I can see why. You've definitely improved from then (and I suspect would easily beat us in NZ now), but a few bursts of competence from Anderson or even Broad could undermine that.

Then again, saying all this just makes me sound optimistic about the series for some reason...

# ¿ May 6, 2015 07:48

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Burn Down Canberra posted:

I was reading the thread for the gabba test in 06 and an Australian poster was put on probation for using a racial slur after Bucknor gave ponting out lbw lol.

That's probably peak Australian cricket fan.

Edit

I talked about how great McGrath was to an embarrassing degree. I stand by it.

Fair enough, McGrath was one of the best bowlers ever. It feels awful to say, but we got incredibly lucky when he trod on that cricket ball in 2005.

I mean, if imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, look at England's battery of right arm fast mediums. Broad and Finn both modelled themselves on McGrath - arguably an error in hindsight, as Broad's at his best when he bowls a fuller length than McGrath typically did and Finn should maybe have focused on out-and-out pace. Still, at the time I remember thinking "that's a pretty good role model".

The 5-0 series result predictions still rankle, though :v:

# ¿ May 7, 2015 09:18

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Doctor Cave posted:

I noticed there were eight matches on the opening day. How do you even follow that? And it still goes for over two months.

Probably by distractedly clicking on the occasional Cricinfo scorecard. So same as the IPL and BBL, really.

I mean, I might pay slightly more attention to the scorecards with this one because there are actual teams I support in there.

Paul.Power fucked around with this message at 07:17 on May 17, 2015

# ¿ May 17, 2015 07:15

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I'm Crap posted:

Is Mark Wood actually any good? He just seems like another identikit English quick-medium who won't quite be able to cut it at international level.

He's pretty good at reverse swing, apparently. He's also shorter and skiddier, which at least offers some contrast.

# ¿ May 21, 2015 11:20

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Lionel Richie posted:

Because it has. It's the pitch where Sri Lanka batted out like 3 days after following on, and where Stuart Broad scored 169.

It's also where we had 232 & 213 plays 207 & 68 against NZ a couple of years ago, mind. Then again, swing might account for that.

Arguably if both sides had a specialist spinner in this match the scoring would at least have been kept in check a bit.

Paul.Power fucked around with this message at 07:02 on May 25, 2015

# ¿ May 25, 2015 06:54

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If nothing else, he'll be perfect for teaching England the art of wind-ups.

# ¿ May 25, 2015 10:13

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Holy poo poo, Test cricket

# ¿ May 25, 2015 20:59

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Noxin of Shame posted:

Holy poo poo, McGrath with 8 for 37.

Haha yeah, from what I remember the Lord's slope was pretty much McGrath's favourite toy.

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I thought the most notable thing might have been the commentators saying "this'll be a 150 pitch, great effort if they can get to 200" like that's a completely normal thing and not a giant disaster for cricket.

First Test series I watched was England vs. West Indies in 2000, it was very much an exhibition in which side could collapse harder:

First test - WI win by an innings and 93
Second test - England win by 2 wickets
Third test - Match drawn
Fourth test - England win by innings and 39
Fifth test - England win by 158 runs

Look at those strike rates :allears:

# ¿ May 26, 2015 17:21

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Byolante posted:

Dobell was on that espn webshow trying to argue that the fans actually really like Cook and the people saying he is a trashman clown are a minority.

*shrug* I like Cook. His captaincy leaves a lot to be desired but as a batsman in his prime it was always great watching him drive (well okay, leave, block and nurdle) opposition bowlers to distraction. I'm glad to see him back in form. Fingers crossed he might be able to remind Mitchell Johnson of the bad ol' days.

Paul.Power fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Jun 1, 2015

# ¿ Jun 1, 2015 06:21

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To be fair, going by the Cricinfo commentary he bowled two really good balls in that over.

# ¿ Jun 1, 2015 13:09

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goatface posted:

If England win this series 1-0, they move to third (from fifth) in the test rankings, and New Zealand drop to seventh (from third).

These rankings are retardo

Seems there's only three points separating third from seventh at the moment: http://www.espncricinfo.com/rankings/content/page/211271.html. That and the rankings don't take home advantage into account.

# ¿ Jun 1, 2015 17:19

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Knuc U Kinte posted:

England fans are loving insufferable lmao.

At least we have an excuse in that our team are also a bag of dicks. The NZ team are a great bunch of guys, but the fans in this thread are honestly the most irritating fans I've seen in the goon cricket threads.

# ¿ Jun 2, 2015 08:06

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Schlesische posted:

Hi there, have you met the Australian fans after a loss?

Yeah, and seriously they're generally better.

e: do you mean a loss for Australia or a loss for England? The fair-weather Aussie fans can be definitely be bad (admittedly worse than NZ fans) after they win. After Australia lose, it's usually just the regulars, and they're pretty all right.

Paul.Power fucked around with this message at 08:21 on Jun 2, 2015

# ¿ Jun 2, 2015 08:13

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Mister Chief posted:

Wheelie bin with stumps painted on it.

Did Ashley Giles ever bowl to Watson? Would've been interesting to see a Duel of the Wheelie Bins.

# ¿ Jun 14, 2015 07:29

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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 22:55

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Byolante posted:

Why is broad in the top 10 test bowlers

Getting 6 for 25 against India last summer probably helped with that. Feels like a world away now, but it was only seven Tests ago.

# ¿ Jun 15, 2015 09:06

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