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BrigadierSensible posted:This. Even though he was a fat cheat, I always had respect for Arjuna Ranatunga, because back in the day of the all conquering Aussies, he took a team that was considered a meek minnow, looked the Aussies in the eye, told them to get hosed, and won a World Cup. I think Dav Whatmore deserves a good chunk of that credit too though.
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Mar 13, 2015 02:03
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I can't decide who the bigger wanker is wahab or Slater
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Mar 20, 2015 10:20
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Cheating pakis (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mar 20, 2015 11:01
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Lol suck It Riaz that's karma for being a giant douchebag
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Mar 20, 2015 11:07
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Maxwell owns
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Mar 20, 2015 11:17
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Riaz is getting punished.
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Mar 20, 2015 11:27
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Typical Pakistan cricket team. Bowler gobbling off all night pulling stupid faces, blowing kisses, cracks the sads when he gets smashed and cries to his captain who cries to the umpire.
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Mar 20, 2015 11:31
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Get it Maxwell winning six 400th for the toutney
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Mar 20, 2015 11:33
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Teams all over the world sledge "classic banter lol" Aussie team throws chat "pack of cunts" "insufferable" Makes the victory that much sweeter all the tears about poo poo that happens every game, everywhere in the world.
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Mar 30, 2015 02:31
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Ritchie benaud passed away in his sleep last night.
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Apr 9, 2015 23:57
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Seams posted:Warner's promising not to sledge and now Jimmy Anderson wants a pleasant series. These teams are going to rip each other's heads off lol. Warner was pretty much told in the past to be the team's attack dog, like they did with Symonds and like with Symonds he's probably sick of seeing Cricket Australia condemn his actions when they make headlines after being told by the coach and captain to go for the throat. Can't blame Warner for saying gently caress it and just playing.
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Jun 25, 2015 01:03
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Starc was wayward first spell or two, then tighened up, Hazlewood also go this radar adjusted through the day. Wouldnt be surprised if their bowling is much better tomorrow. Everyone said that about Lyon before the india test series last year too.
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Jul 3, 2015 04:22
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I'm Crap posted:http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jul/03/david-warner-lifts-lid-walkabout-bar-jo-root-england-australia Yeah, sounds like Root was being a dickhead and got a punch in mouth. Who cares, both were in the wrong.
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Jul 4, 2015 06:49
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Lionel Richie posted:Is there anything more putrid than an Australian who unironically, unconditionally supports the Australian cricket team? Smiling through bared teeth, being aggressively racist and wondering why no one sees things the way they do. Yeah, people who automatically assume a player is in the wrong because he's Australian. Telling someone to speak english when theyre gobbing off in a language you dont understand is in no possible way racist and its the sort of pidgeon holing bullshit thay shows your bias againat anything an australian player does.
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Jul 5, 2015 05:19
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Smorgasbord posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oJe_FHsdhY Who cares, its been going on for decades accross all forms of the game by all teams in the game. Anti australia crowd has latched on to it and refuse to let it go and accept that every team does it because australia continues to win. Its just sour grapes now. Crying because your team cant beat Australia that theyre big meanies.
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Jul 5, 2015 06:13
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monkeu posted:International cricket player is shouting at another international cricket player in a language he doesn't understand. The abhorrent monster asks him to use a language they both know quite well that they both speak and understand. Thats about the size of it. If he was wearing a NZ or English cap he'd just be a top bloke.
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Jul 6, 2015 00:14
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Most Runs (Eng): Bell Most Runs (Aus): Smith Most Wickets (Eng): Broad Most Wickets (Aus): Starc Biggest Surprise: Watson with the ball Biggest Disappointment: Root with the bat Series Result: 3-1 Australia
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Jul 6, 2015 08:21
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Burn Down Canberra posted:Also Johnson is 33 so I'm not so sure if its the bad Mitch but a very physical bowler losing his edge. On the balance he never lived up to potential but he had a pretty solid career. People expected a lot from him but he was always an expensive wicket taker. His strike rate is really good. imo Johnson will have the quickest drop off in form of any bowler. His action and pace is very much reliant on his physical prowess and he's insanely fit and strong in his core. He spent years training at the mill gym (jump on youtube to see what their training is like) a gym staffed by ex and current special forces guys, you have to audition to be allowed to train there. As he gets older he's not going to be able to keep that level of training up and his bowling will suffer because of it. I think his performance in england is going to be limited by the slow pitches, but I don't think he'll be dependable for the next few years for example, I think he's got probably a summer or two left in him.
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Jul 9, 2015 03:35
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All comes down to Rogers, Smith and Clarke. I don't see warner lasting long whether he plays his natural game or tries to play defensively and I'd argue Watto, Haddin or Voges can't really be relied on to hold their wicket for a day.
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Jul 11, 2015 02:12
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You Am I posted:Warner is loving useless outside of Australia, so can see him doing a strong 20-something runs before going out because his thick head can't process what's going on. Yeah shame of it is Australia is in almost no way built to tour england more so without Harris. Itd almost be better if Warner went out and looked to attack and let rogers settle in. When he tries to play defensively he looks lost.
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Jul 11, 2015 03:32
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EMC posted:This is no great epiphany but cricketers, and the Australians in particular, must just be the biggest loving meatheads on the planet, tour after tour to England regardless of whoever is in the side and who is coaching they continue to play like it's the Gabba in the first test. The bowling was a total disgrace and I am genuinely shocked we even got 20 wickets, Johnson and Starc just bowling short rubbish and when it gets easily hit to the fence they just deliver it again because their small brains can't digest how it continues to happen. For some reason they're terrified of bringing in some of the young talent who have shown they can bowl a good line and length because they don't have blistering pace, its ridiculous.
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Jul 12, 2015 01:27
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Shmoses posted:What young talent is this exactly? Could we really have gone into this test with an attack that wasn't Johnson, Starc and Hazlewood? All three of them demanded selection over Peter Siddle Fekete wouldn't have been a bad option to have in the squad, Sean Abbott would have been a good player to have over there as well. Hell at this point I'd consider Gurinder. Siddle hasn't been in the best form, but he's at least consistent in his length and consistent in his ability to bowl over after over after over without needing a rest because he's hurt or going to break down. I wouldn't necessarily have him in place of any of the three we picked though. I'm not saying the Australian selectors have done a bad job, but cricket in Australia in particular has a habit of holding on to players for far too long when there's a better alternative and not trying to tailor the team around the opposition and pitches they'll be playing on, opting instead to try and fit square pegs in round holes because they're ranked higher. Starc, Hazelwood and Johnson would have been fine as a three pronged pace attack if they had an all rounder who could bowl better than Watson.
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Jul 12, 2015 02:28
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EMC posted:I wasn't too upset with the bowling selections, though I posted in here saying Johnson has historically sucked in England and Starc hasn't been able to produce anything close to his one day form in test cricket. But either their planning, execution or both was totally lacking The difference it seemed to me was it looked like England came out, and went "ok David Warner, need to bowl full, just outside off, need it swinging away" or "Watson need, to put them a little shorter swinging back in toward leg" "smith and clarke like to shuffle across, need to beat them with late movement at a full length". Whereas the Australians seemed to have no plan and no consistency for attacking the batsmen it was like they just went, welp lets bowl fast with no consistent line or length on a slow pitch that hasn't been carrying and it wasn't until late in the 2nd innings that they woke up to how they needed to approach it.
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Jul 12, 2015 02:47
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About a quarter of the way through whitewash to whitewash now, it's a pretty good read even if some passages are a little incoherent given the writing style when they talk about the back room political bullshit. It kind of gives a bit of insight into how Watson stuck around initially through some form slumps (definitely doesn't explain how in the hell he's still around) and paints clarke in a not too great light. Ricky Ponting too was kind of a poo poo captain without Warnie, Mcgrath and a million runs to fall back on. The insight into the bullshit surrounding spin bowlers, how Hauritz was treated and how Australia gave away an Ashes game on a pitch tailor made for spin bowling is incredible. How Andrew Symonds didn't kill the entire BCCI rep team out to defend Harbajan Singh is incredible and how more people other than Katich didn't choke Clarke out is incredible.
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Jul 14, 2015 05:04
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runoverbobby posted:Watto is innocent in the entire sequence. Why did Haddin decide to float the ball over a raincloud to Clarke instead of throwing it to Watto? And Clarke had plenty of time to gather the ball and either dislodge the bails or wait for Watto to get out the way. There's a good passage in the book I mentioned above. Shane Watson managed 126 runs in the first innings of a 2010 test match against India, that night at a team meeting Clarke (who scored I think 14) in front of the rest of the team said that Watson should've been scoring faster. The next innings Watto scored 56 off 56 balls, at one stage there was a drinks break and he'd made 40 off 28 balls or something and he told the drinks runner to ask Clarke if that was fast enough for him. Pretty sure the middle order collapsed that game too.
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Jul 14, 2015 05:40
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Unimpressed posted:So what's peoples' opinion on Nevill? What happened to Wade and that Tassie guy with the hosed up fingers? He got kept in the NSW team as a specialist batsman when Hads had the gloves and in the big bash when he joined the same team as Wade and got the Steve Waugh medal (best overall nsW player) either last year or the one before. Apparently it was thought by players he should've had the nod over wade a couple years back when Wade got put in the team. Which was funny (unless you're Nevill) because they had Nevill on tour as Brad's backup only to fly Wade in instead. On Watto: Something got made pretty clear to me reading through a few articles and team history. Watson was kind of the least poo poo pick for a long time. After the Argus review that came off the back of Australia's test team all but completely imploding there were a few factors that lead to selection woes. There was a change in selectors, board members, captains, coaches and how the teams were picked. The cricket schedule in Australia changed as well. The Australian cricket board being in weird deals with the BCCI had agreed to help support the IPL and champions league so they had to alter the schedule of matches to allow players to play in the IPL. This meant two things, firstly - the sheffield shield tests weren't played as often or as in as large numbers as they had been years previous and therefore many of the players weren't used to the rigours of test bowling, and those that were hadn't spent their recent months playing tests. The one day format around the world had been expanded - so tours of 5 tests, 3 ODIs and a T20 hit and giggle became poo poo like 2 tests, 5 ODIs and 3 t20s and Australia had this weird time of flux with their bowlers the major pool of guys to choose from was: Siddle (inconsistent, breakable), Harris (breakable), Bollinger (inconsistent, often unfit - could barely pass a fitness test) Cummins, Pattinson, Starc, Johnson, Hilfenhaus, couple of others I'm probably forgetting all breakable, inconsistent and young/youngish without years of test experience. A common problem was they'd break into the test line up, bowl brilliantly then be out for a test with a side strain or hamstring or back, only for them to be rushed into the line up unfit and unused to conditions. So the team was left with having to choose from a pool of players who weren't known quantities. Players who hadn't experienced years at the test level, had only played the short form as their primary cricket (when they were healthy) and were either having to be rested often to rehab injuries, or had to be rotated to avoid injuries. Add to that most of them were terrified of being dropped after one bad performance because they didn't know how the selection process worked. Even if they did stick around, coaching was that inconsistent that their bowling coach, captain and head coach would all have different advice on how to approach a game. In an effort to put in a bowler who could be relied on to dry up an end, swing the ball and take the occasional wicket they felt Watson was the best choice. One of the reasons they felt Watson was the best choice was because the Argus review recommended using the ODI squad as a way of testing players to see if they were test ready (most of the coaches and experienced hangers on like tubbs felt this was retarded). Watson at the time had performed actually really quite well in the t20 cups and in the ODI fixtures with bat and ball and prior to the short form heavy schedule he'd done well in tours against India, South Africa and Sri Lanka, - keep in mind this was before these teams had their major revamp and when India had the same issue Australia did in 08-12 players like Laxman, Tendulkar etc doing their retirement laps, South africa were blooding guys who're now brilliant and they toured poo poo places like the West Indies. Through it all the bowlers above were having their issues, the only guy who was there to play well against poo poo competition was Watson. When it came time to select players they had a pool of ten guys so to speak but only half of them were healthy, and only half of that lot were considered reliable. So they went with Watto because he could bat (apparently) and he was (at the time) in the leadership group (keep in mind Haddin was in and out like a yo-yo, the major experienced guys like Ponting were gone, Warner had pretty much been a dud as a VC and Clarke was in and out with injury). Another thing to remember at this point the batting "enforcers" capable of counter attacking like Katich, Hayden, Hussey, Ponting etc had either long since retired or were leaving the team. The top order was a rotating gently caress bag between Warner, Cowan, Hughes, Kawarja, Rogers and others who got bounced around. Smith was still a year or two away from being a player of note and Clarke while he did well was nursing injuries every drat week. So they picked the guy who tonked the lovely attacks of short form teams on batting pitches designed to draw crowds. Who could take wickets against the declining / emerging line-ups of India, Sri Lanka and South Africa and who knew how to stand in the slips with his hands in his pockets and go "oi mate, have a bowl". Problem was the top order batsmen seemed to flounder as often as they fired which panicked Clarke who thought it better to avoid giving Watson bowling duties to preserve his batting in case they needed someone to make a stand, which he never seemed to do anyway. I can understand after seeing the bullshit the team went through up until 2013/14 with changes at every level being almost weekly why Watson stuck around, he filled pretty much all the criteria they had to select a player, except (does he do it in a test match that matters against top competition? because the answer was always NO). It's almost as if the selectors punched into a spreadsheet give me someone who's -an attacking batsman in ODI's [check] -experienced [check] -Could captain in a pinch [check] -been round test cricket for a while [check] -who's shown in the past on tour he could swing the ball, dry up runs and take wickets [check] -performed against elite competition in test matches at home and in england [uncheck] and Watson ticked those boxes. How he's hung around the last twelve months I can't explain, because it seems there's a glut of young all rounders crying out for a go while the top order of Rogers, Warner, Smith, Clarke is established. The only thing I can think of is that Marsh has had some inconsistencies, Henriques and his type have struggled at times. Watson is the shining example of what was wrong with Australian cricket in the past (almost 10 years). It's like they expected him to be able to be the mystical unicorn that could bowl when things looked bad and then save an innings with his impressive lats, glutes and every time he failed to perform he'd do well in an arena that didn't matter like t20 or an ODI and the selectors would go "ooo he might carry this over" despite evidence to the contrary. He was basically the least offending all round turd who showed the most talent when it was least required. I would think if Australia had two or three bowlers who could consistently stay healthy and bowl without leaking a million runs and we had three batsmen who didn't throw their wicket away or need a month with the physio after a quick fifty we would've seen someone else get blooded and hold their place. Failing that they stuck with the useless prick they knew rather than the useless pricks they didn't. BlindSite fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Jul 15, 2015 |
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Jul 15, 2015 03:58
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Negligent posted:Apparently on averages Watto/Katich were our second-best ever opening pair behind Lawry/Simpson and ahead of Langer/Hayden. Watto was actually legit good as an opener and pretty okay batting above 4. I'd be interested to see who their opponents were in that time and on what pitch. I get that statistically they're good, but I feel Warner and Rogers is a better pair.
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Jul 16, 2015 04:32
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snaeksikn posted:i think its hit a sudden resurgence with the better guarantee of a good payday with the T20 leagues. before they popped up most of the guys i knew playing amateurs felt the game was dying a slow death from the lack of young guys coming through in favour of (in perth at least) afl and soccer The T20 leagues have been a big boon it was either be a part time athlete playing sheffield shield and or bouncing around county cricket hoping for a test call up while you made average money, now if you can turn the ball a little bit, field well enough and crack some boundaries you can make serious money. Shaun Tait has pretty much become a T20 only player and makes plenty of money. In the past he wouldn't have had that option. There have been a few multiple sport athletes I've known who pretty much walked away from cricket because the money opportunities were better elsewhere. Berrick Barnes for instance was offered contracts after school with the Reds, Broncos and the Bulls but chose the Broncos who offered more money. Drugs posted:You're destined for cricket failure unless you spent your Saturday afternoons as a 15 year old having fat old 2nd XI tragics threaten to knock your head off. Also tell you about how they would've played for Australia if not for the politics/knee injury/just bullshit mate.
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Jul 21, 2015 01:37
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GorgeOnMySyphilis posted:Surely the Australian selectors wouldn't be stupid enough to change a team that won their last test by over 400 runs. Would they? Ive heard everything the last few days from watto in for voges, to watto in at opener if Rodgers can't go. They shouldnt just drop watson they should summarily execute him to take the decision out of the selectors hands.
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Jul 24, 2015 22:49
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Who's tipped at this point to take over from Rogers? Smarsh or Burns or someone else?
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Aug 1, 2015 08:03
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Steve Waugh dropped himself down the order when he got a bit older. Plenty of batsmen do it, Clarke should as well. I think he's been putting himself at 4th to will himself back into form but he needs to go down a spot. The only other thing I can think of is because since he moved up the number 5 position has rotated more than been held onto, my guess it was his effort to take some of the pressure off whomever was being brought into that spot.
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Aug 3, 2015 05:05
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You Am I posted:God could you imaging Cricket Australia's Cultural Ambassador David Warner in that country? The Australian Foreign Minister will have to spend months afterwards trying to heal the damage done by him Oh yes because in the last 15 years the australians have been the racist ones playing in Asia...
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Aug 6, 2015 03:18
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Unimpressed posted:Yes, they have been, just not the only ones. nah. Indians were worse. So very much worse, with what they did with Symonds. Half the indian board and half the australian board should've been keel hauled. Warner telling someone to speak english when they're yelling at him in hindi isn't as bad as Harbajan Singh calling Symonds a monkey more than once, then Sachin Tandulker changing his story after a meeting with his bosses, then lying on the stand and the Indian cricket board threatening to pull the team home costing the Aussie board millions of dollars if Singh wasn't allowed to play with no more than a slap on the wrist. Not to mention Singh's lawyer literally lied under oath to a judge purposely omitting about 10 incidents where Singh had racially or verbally abused someone in a game to avoid a harsher penalty.
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Aug 6, 2015 03:52
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Bumble gets on through lol
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Aug 7, 2015 13:58
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Cricket.com.au saying as many as 9 will go from the current squad. Starting 11 for the next series predictions: Bancroft Warner Smith Kawarja Burns M. Marsh Nevill Johnson Starc Hazelwood Lyon Maybe handscombe in for burns and burns opening instead of bancroft. Im guessing the 8 are clarke, rodgers, haddin, smarsh, voges, watson, siddle and harris not sure who the 9th would be though. Johnson you'd think still has some left in the tank.
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Aug 9, 2015 23:49
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Negligent posted:My theory is that the selectors won't axe 8-9 guys like some people have suggested. Wouldn't it make more sense to role with the youth movement. Lets say they do something truly different and take the team I suggested Bancroft Warner Smith Kawarja Burns M. Marsh Nevill Johnson Starc Hazelwood Lyon Bancroft, Kawarja, Burns, Marsh and Nevil would get their first home series (yeah three of that four have been in and out of the line up, whatever). They make easy runs on pitches they're used to and help to bring up public support, so if and when they tour and do poo poo there's not some ridiculous media cycle calling for heads to roll. Yeah you could bring Watto and Smarsh back, but to what end, they get a home tour to make easy runs, fail the first time they leave their postcode and get dropped anyway? If the selectors bring Smarsh and Watto back they should be sacked. At least the guys making headlines for the Australia A team have a good combination of some experience playing for Australia, have a track record at least of being able to play overseas and should understand how to behave in a test match situation by now. Marsh and Watto should be gone. How much more time are you going to give to known bad commodities when you can potentially build for the next decade with a soft start. I'd rather a drawn series at home but get a team that can play together in order than win a whitewash with Marsh and Watto doing what's all but a retirement tour.
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Aug 10, 2015 04:24
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Colin miller used to occasionally whistle a bouncer in. I always remember it because my grandfather used to rant about his hair and say "wouldnt 'ave em in my team, look at bloody mess on 'is head"
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Aug 11, 2015 22:34
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Cocksmith posted:I don't get why lyon is such a whipping boy. right now he's our only consistently good bowler. i think I've even pointed out in this thread that the hate he gets makes no sense. I think it's because there's a couple of young blokes who do OK in the IPL and in shield games so people naturally assume he's holding on to a spot that should go to someone else, but it seems like before every season, someone says "i don't rate Lyon" only for him to be rock solid all series and even save a game or two with some sharp bowling on a dead rubber.
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Aug 16, 2015 00:25
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Shmoses posted:I dunno, look at the way Smith has worked on his game between Tests. He's the captain now. I wouldn't categorically say that nothing's been learnt. People hate to see a player doing well no matter who it is ITT. Smith will be fine, complaining that he doesn't hit 50 or a tonne every at bat is what it's coming to, no player does that. Couple bad games and it washes away the ten great ones.
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Aug 21, 2015 06:27
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Smorgasbord posted:There barely seem to be any incidents in series not involving Australia, England & India, but when one or especially 2 of those teams are involved things tend to get very unpleasant. Thats mostly because any "incidents" are overblown in the media and on these boards. poo poo talking goes on in just about every series between any country, it's when the media won't shut the gently caress up about whether its a problem or not that it actually becomes an issue. Channel 9 turning up stump mics when they're not meant to lead to the "get ready for a broken fuckin' arm" incident and didn't capture Anderson telling Bailey (I think) he wanted to punch him in the face. I don't accept the notion that in a game between south africa and sri lanka for example there's no banter thrown back and fourth on the field.
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Sep 3, 2015 02:37
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