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Ragtime Cthulhu
Dec 11, 2014


Concerned Citizen posted:

qtes and minigames are pretty much everything wrong with video games now. also open world games.

dx:hr's hacking minigame was basically criminal.

The real crime in DX:HR was almost having an engaging plotline and setting, the sidequests were interesting but failed to cover the rush job that it was

Listening to the commentary, they were all, "We debated for weeks as to whether or not to let the player murder people in the LIMB Clinic"

All that time spent debating the merits of a sociopath simulator, you could have made a coherent game that did not involve The Illuminati

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a messed up horse
Mar 11, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo


somebody said mark of the ninja already and that game was extremely dope

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

Forums Rutabaga

NihilismNow posted:

IV is the best out of any game series.
Civ IV
Sim City IV
Europa Universalis IV
Hearts of Iron: IV (i hope)

No game series really need to go beyond IV because at that point you are regressing feature and gameplay wise.

this is correct except it's II not IV

univbee
Jun 3, 2004





The correct argument is probably closer to "the best game in a specific series is guaranteed to be one of its first four games."

Zzulu
May 15, 2009


open world games owns

im looking forward to the witcher 3

speaking of which, witcher 2 was good too

swamp waste
Nov 4, 2009

There is some very sensual touching going on in the cutscene there. i don't actually think it means anything sexual but it's cool how it contrasts with modern ideas of what bad ass stuff should be like. It even seems authentic to some kind of chivalric masculine touching from a tyme longe gone


Unconvinced-sounding female announcer:
New video game is ready to change the way you think about video games FOREVER.

(3-5 seconds of men in future armor running around shooting lasers at each other)

Male pattern baldness guy in hornrims sitting with his back to a computer screen:

We wanted the power-ups to give the player the feeling of being very cool and powerful.

Announcer:
In new video game, players can customize their own character with weapons, armor, and skills.

Ragtime Cthulhu
Dec 11, 2014


Was that an actual trailer or a skit you devised

Either way, it is completely accurate

Motorola 68000
Apr 25, 2014

"Don't be nice. Be good."


Zzulu posted:

open world games owns

im looking forward to the witcher 3

speaking of which, witcher 2 was good too

Open world games are tedious. You have to walk around. Someone who is short on time can't fully enjoy one of those games. 30 minutes to get to an inn to heal after one battle. Not my cup of tea.

serious norman
Dec 13, 2007


new video games is like watching a movie, ban all cut-scenes imo

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!




thathonkey posted:

new vegas sucked though

this is the most incorrect thing ever posted on the internet

Linux Pirate
Apr 21, 2012

Well, there goes our grant money.





serious norman posted:

new video games is like watching a movie, ban all cut-scenes imo

RaySmuckles
Oct 14, 2009



Only after we've lost everything,
are we free to do anything


Grimey Drawer

Ragtime Cthulhu posted:

Dark Souls was good for what it attempted to accomplish yet fell short, 2 is a much better manifestation

is the the consensus? i think dark souls was much better from gameplay to setting and dark souls 2 was a rush job that failed to capture what made dark souls so great. opinions, man. multiplayer in ds2 is better though, i'll say that.

for me, hope for video games died with me3. when a nerdy, niche series exploded into the mainstream bioware(ea) decided rather than create a precedent for series' with integrity that will stick through to the end they rolled out me3 with the explicit intention of having anyone be able to pick up the third game in a trilogy that was supposed to be driven by character action/decision and have it be a "complete experience." it makes me sad me2 was so successful.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!




RaySmuckles posted:

for me, hope for video games died with me3. when a nerdy, niche series exploded into the mainstream bioware(ea) decided rather than create a precedent for series' with integrity that will stick through to the end they rolled out me3 with the explicit intention of having anyone be able to pick up the third game in a trilogy that was supposed to be driven by character action/decision and have it be a "complete experience." it makes me sad me2 was so successful.

me3 didn't even feel like that. it just felt lazy and stupid, like a fanfiction version of mass effect.

the shittiest thing about it was how the ending was so atrocious that it took focus away from the fact that the game was poo poo in most other respects as well. SPACE NINJA, never forget

LOVE LOVE SKELETON
Nov 11, 2007




Lipstick Apathy

i bought quake 4 for three dollars and then immediately gave it to a friend, who lost it. an appropriate fate.

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005



MECHWARRIOR 4 is free now and i want to get into it
when i have time

gta 3 series (3 to SA) ruled (even though vice city having completely flat terrain was boring sometimes)
gta 4 sucked poo poo because they made the driving not fun in a driving game i played it for like 2 hours to give a it a real chance and gently caress it

gta 5 had fun driving
but hosed up the wanted system so its no longer fun getting 4 stars and trying to survive because theyll just keep spawning right loving next to you

and where are my vigilante and fireman and ambulance missions
the best thing to do in a fresh save of vice city was go to the rampage with the molotov so you can get a firetruck and get a few million dollars doing those missions because you dont suck at video games
and the best thing in any gta was doing vigilante missions in sa with an mp5 on a police bike
and they took it out because whoever is designing these games cant play video games

RaySmuckles
Oct 14, 2009



Only after we've lost everything,
are we free to do anything


Grimey Drawer

Cubey posted:

me3 didn't even feel like that. it just felt lazy and stupid, like a fanfiction version of mass effect.

felt like that to me also the developers explicitly stated that their intention was to not alienate first time players, and offer a complete experience for new players.

those are words i remember reading from an article i'm too lazy to look up.

also i don't remember it giving me the option to be like, hey the genophage is great! lets not modify/change/or feel bad about it! krogan are crazy!

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000



spud posted:

I actually miss the SNES/Neo Geo era, where games were more linear, but 2d and finely honed. All this open-world, sandbox is just tiring.

Yep, this is me and why I don't really play games any more. Obviously not having the same free time from when you were a kid contributes a lot, but I only like Zelda games like the SNES one where you can only go in like 4 different directions.

I never even liked Toshinden back in the day because I liked fighting games on a 2d plane. Now I gotta learn all this other poo poo on top of moving around in 3d.

I really liked Max Payne but I tried to get into part 3 but holy poo poo I cannot learn the controls. How am I supposed to remember to hold LT while pushing in the 3d pad and pressing RF to shoot my gun while ducking? I still get hosed up with where the buttons are on the controller because I'm so used to the left button being cancel and the right button being "confirm" from the SNES days. Supposedly in Japan it is still that way and their PlayStation controller buttons are even physically swapped.

To be honest though, no longer enjoying video games is a positive thing so I don't fight it too much. The only thing I play these days is Smash Bros WiiU but even then I'm still using a controller from 2001 to play it and I only play with friends over because I never understood the appeal of playing games online.

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Listen here, funnyman!

Soiled Meat

I never understood the appeal of playing games online; it's nothing but stoners, drunks, the unemployed or people bored as gently caress working the night shift. Give me a narrative over being called a "cheating human being" by BongHitter420.

u wan fuck
Dec 28, 2002




You should also get drunk and stoned and put a headset on. It's really fun actually.

Hometown Slime Queen
Oct 26, 2004

the GOAT


Ride The Gravitron
May 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless



lol some one actually took the time to figure out how to do that

serious norman
Dec 13, 2007


Volume posted:

lol some one actually took the time to figure out how to do that

Yeah. Me.

Junk
Dec 20, 2003

It's disgraceful - us being forced to pick wood for our smuggler-ancestors beacon-fires!


NihilismNow posted:

IV is the best out of any game series.
Civ IV
Sim City IV
Europa Universalis IV
Hearts of Iron: IV (i hope)

No game series really need to go beyond IV because at that point you are regressing feature and gameplay wise.

Don't forget Tropico 4 (5 sucked)

Gutcruncher
Apr 16, 2005

Go home and be a family man!


Hey OP play Nintendo games. Among the big publishers, they rehash less, output higher quality, release complete games, and make the most substantial and cheap DLC. More than that though, they never forgot what a game is supposed to be.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007


Ragtime Cthulhu posted:

Might as well destroy the Internet, since that is the only way to restore credibility to electronic gaming endeavors

Well no, someone just needs to make a game where most of the gameplay and plot elements are dynamic and randomized, so that writing walkthroughs and solutions is impossible.

Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice





Davincie posted:

oh wait gta IV sucked, so that disproves the theory

Mega Man IV was also one of the weaker Mega Man games on the NES. II and III were top notch though.

Gutcruncher posted:

Hey OP play Nintendo games. Among the big publishers, they rehash less, output higher quality, release complete games, and make the most substantial and cheap DLC. More than that though, they never forgot what a game is supposed to be.

Are they the same Nintendo that has been milking the poo poo out of the same 4 franchises for the last 30 years? Because that's the only one I know.

Junk
Dec 20, 2003

It's disgraceful - us being forced to pick wood for our smuggler-ancestors beacon-fires!


Infidel Castro posted:

Mega Man IV was also one of the weaker Mega Man games on the NES. II and III were top notch though.

Maybe it's only true for city building games. Fyi these are still a good genre and it's where I've wound up after experiencing this same disillusionment with mainstream fps games and etc.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012


Shredded Hen

at least nintendo's rehashes are good. the wii u mario kart and smash bros are pretty on point if you enjoy those series.

Wootman
Sep 6, 2014

by XyloJW


thathonkey posted:

new vegas sucked though

your mom sucked.

OP, get a Wii U it's the only system you need this gen.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!




Infidel Castro posted:

Are they the same Nintendo that has been milking the poo poo out of the same 4 franchises for the last 30 years? Because that's the only one I know.

the thing is, games within those franchises are actually really goddamn different from one another when compared with other series', and they also don't come out as often. poo poo there are more call of duty games than there are main-series mario titles yet mario is nearly 20 years older than cod.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014






They know their audience is getting older and dumber.

Pawn 17
Dec 17, 2000

> access main security grid
access: PERMISSION DENIED.








this owns

edit: do people still play Quake 1? I know there are a few game of Quake Live going on most times, but no idea about 1 and 2.

Pawn 17 fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Jan 25, 2015

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->


in my opinion there are good video games and bad video games and people often disagree over which ones are good and which ones are bad

and that is okay because it is subjective

proof of concept
Mar 6, 2005

by FactsAreUseless


Pawn 17 posted:

this owns

edit: do people still play Quake 1? I know there are a few game of Quake Live going on most times, but no idea about 1 and 2.

pretty sure quake 1 still has some diehards playing, but not many
I am sad that arena shooters/deathmatch games are going to eventually die out completely

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000



Infidel Castro posted:

Mega Man IV was also one of the weaker Mega Man games on the NES. II and III were top notch though.


Are they the same Nintendo that has been milking the poo poo out of the same 4 franchises for the last 30 years? Because that's the only one I know.

Super Mario 3d world plays nothing like super Mario WiiU

Cmon son do you think Mario RPG was a rehash of Mario Paint?

Gutcruncher
Apr 16, 2005

Go home and be a family man!


Remember when Unreal Tournament 3 had a story mode? HAHAHAHA

Wicker Man
Sep 5, 2007

Just like Columbus...




Clapping Larry

Gutcruncher posted:

Remember when Unreal Tournament 3 had a story mode? HAHAHAHA

Stupidest poo poo ever. MOBILE RESPAWN SIM UNITS THAT EVEN ALIENS LIKE TO USE!

Gutcruncher
Apr 16, 2005

Go home and be a family man!


Infidel Castro posted:


Are they the same Nintendo that has been milking the poo poo out of the same 4 franchises for the last 30 years? Because that's the only one I know.

Protip: just because Mario is in the title doesn't make it the same game or even same genre as other games with Mario in the title.

Pawn 17
Dec 17, 2000

> access main security grid
access: PERMISSION DENIED.







proof of concept posted:

pretty sure quake 1 still has some diehards playing, but not many
I am sad that arena shooters/deathmatch games are going to eventually die out completely

Yeah it's weird that they kinna died with Quake 3 so long ago.

I guess most players these days enjoy being able to rack up kills on anyone without having to have much skill or practice in modern shooters. Back in the deathmatch days, if you were a newbie, it DID suck rear end to log in to a server and get completely owned non stop for hours while trying to learn the game.You could easily be playing for several hours without a single kill if you joined the wrong server vs regulars who knew the maps, armor/health locations, re-spawn timers and were skilled with all the weapons.

Pawn 17 fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Jan 25, 2015

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Wicker Man
Sep 5, 2007

Just like Columbus...




Clapping Larry

Pawn 17 posted:

Yeah it's weird that they kinna died with Quake 3 so long ago.

I guess most players these days enjoy being able to rack up kills on anyone without having to have much skill or practice in modern shooters. Back in the deathmatch days, if you were a newbie, it DID suck rear end to log in to a server and get completely owned non stop for hours while trying to learn the game.

My first real online gaming experience in Quake 2 went something like this when I finally joined and loaded the server map:

Spawn to see a guy with the human male model somehow blended with the strogg infantry skin jumping towards me with a rocket launcher, then freezing in mid air. The ominous brown "unplugged" connection problem symbol taking up the top corner of my screen. I sit there staring at it for like 5 minutes waiting for it to get going while Cow & Chicken is playing on the living room TV behind me. Every minute or so the game twitches with a quip blip of noise then freezes again.

Ahhh, dial up with AOL on Mplayer and Heat.net

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