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What's bothering me is that, more and more, you're going to see things like Kickstarter become the preferred way to fund things. And not just videogames.
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matrix ripoff posted:What's bothering me is that, more and more, you're going to see things like Kickstarter become the preferred way to fund things. And not just videogames. I don't know, that sounds pretty good to me. Kickstarter is a system that let's other people gamble their money for me. if the product ends up crap then they lost money and I didn't, and if end ups good then I can still buy it anyway. As a person who doesn't back poo poo I feel like I've benefited from the system.
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Jan 26, 2015 04:29
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By focusing on crowdfunding, we're ignoring the issues that drive a developer to seek crowdfunding. Worse, we may be giving publishers the idea that they themselves no longer need to dip into their own coffers to fund games. Look at what Square Enix is doing. Games cost too god drat much to make, and the reason they cost too god drat much is because SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE wants to buy TWO yachts this year instead of just one.
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Jan 26, 2015 04:38
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Stumpalitious posted:I hate this company so much but I can't just not play their games, better show how much I don't like them by pirating their games instead of, you know, just not playing them. It's a matter of principle. If I got a car from a used car dealership only to find that the car manufacturer made the ignition unable to operate when it gets resold, I would do something similar.
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Jan 26, 2015 04:39
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ubisoft is a bad company and although I don't pirate or buy pirated versions of their games I wish them ill in all their endeavors
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Jan 26, 2015 04:40
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matrix ripoff posted:By focusing on crowdfunding, we're ignoring the issues that drive a developer to seek crowdfunding. Worse, we may be giving publishers the idea that they themselves no longer need to dip into their own coffers to fund games. Look at what Square Enix is doing. I hate to break it to you but adults in the real world need to be paid salaries for the work they do, and children's entertainment like bideo james and comic books doesn't fall from the sky. It's not the evil corporations or w/e that are the reason games are expensive, they're expensive because they require massive amounts of work to make
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Jan 26, 2015 04:41
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Do video game developers use the same accountants movie studios use.
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Jan 26, 2015 04:45
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Ubisoft should fund the next Assassin's Creed game via Kickstarter.
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Jan 26, 2015 04:46
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The Shortest Path posted:It's a matter of principle. If I got a car from a used car dealership only to find that the car manufacturer made the ignition unable to operate when it gets resold, I would do something similar. This has to be the worst car analogy I've seen in years. Like this makes no sense.
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Jan 26, 2015 04:47
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Stumpalitious posted:Like this makes no sense. Hey look, you found my point.
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Jan 26, 2015 04:49
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you be soft op ahahahhahha
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Jan 26, 2015 05:06
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"But officer, the guy who sold it to me specifically said it wasn't stolen! I know he's been caught stealing multiple times before, but he promised this time, that means it has to be true!"
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Jan 26, 2015 05:10
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:"But officer, the guy who sold it to me specifically said it wasn't stolen! I know he's been caught stealing multiple times before, but he promised this time, that means it has to be true!" Why are you talking to the officer instead of a lawyer, idiot?
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Jan 26, 2015 05:13
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*throws self in front of Ubi Soft* I'll save you, Mr. Soft *gets hit by bullet* Oh god that hurt. Oh god. Well, you're going to thank me, right? Mr. Soft? I just... took a bullet for you. I mean *gestures wildly at internet* look at all these people who loving hate you for the bullshit you've been pulling all these years. Don't I deserve something? For standing up for you? You seem to be ignoring me. Well, that's okay. God knows I'm just another consumer, unworthy of your attention. Perhaps, in another life... we could be friends? Ittakimasu *dies*
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Jan 26, 2015 05:15
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yo d soft
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Jan 26, 2015 07:00
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Ubisoft is a lovely company. That has nothing to do with morons being dumb enough to buy from sellers that are known to sell stolen goods, and then cry when they get burned by it. Ubisoft being lovely doesn't make everything they do wrong, or everyone who dislikes them automatically right about everything, and this is one of the rare cases Ubisoft are in the right.
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Jan 26, 2015 07:34
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Ubisoft is a lovely company. That has nothing to do with morons being dumb enough to buy from sellers that are known to sell stolen goods, and then cry when they get burned by it. Ubisoft being lovely doesn't make everything they do wrong, or everyone who dislikes them automatically right about everything, and this is one of the rare cases Ubisoft are in the right.
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Jan 26, 2015 07:35
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Ubisoft is a lovely company. That has nothing to do with morons being dumb enough to buy from sellers that are known to sell stolen goods, and then cry when they get burned by it. Ubisoft being lovely doesn't make everything they do wrong, or everyone who dislikes them automatically right about everything, and this is one of the rare cases Ubisoft are in the right.
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Jan 26, 2015 07:38
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Ubisoft sort of impressive to me since the managed to take a cool concept like assassins' creed and make it boring.Honestly though I've enjoyed most of their games with rear end Creed 3 being the biggest stinker I can think of. UPlay will always be awful though.
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computer parts posted:I mean unironically this. It's not like games never go on sale, the only thing that's being impacted is you not being able to play a game immediately on release, which isn't really that big of a concern. I have gotten a few games now through people re-selling their GPU giveaway keys. I paid about half price for release day games. So if they go to some site and see a game that's vastly cheaper than their region it wouldn't immediately mean that it has to be stolen. Not that I'm saying Ubi doesn't have the right to ban keys that have been charged to stolen credit cards etc. Just this attitude of accepting nonsensical regional prices is lovely.
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Jan 26, 2015 08:14
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Read the thread title expecting an actual PR nightmare. This pretty much failed to deliver on its promise. I was hoping for like a murder cover-up or something, or that playing Ubisoft games has been linked to increased risk of cancer (wouldn't surprise me).
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Jan 26, 2015 08:22
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icantfindaname posted:I hate to break it to you but adults in the real world need to be paid salaries for the work they do, and children's entertainment like bideo james and comic books doesn't fall from the sky. It's not the evil corporations or w/e that are the reason games are expensive, they're expensive because they require massive amounts of work to make Typical AAA games use the majority of their budget on marketing. Nobody should buy Ubisoft games, but if the keys are really stolen, they're in the right here. Request a refund and move on. This might get the higher profile sites to do a better work screening the sellers which is great because I'll still buy keys off these sites.
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Jan 26, 2015 08:25
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VarXX posted:Steam started region locking every game to prevent this for instance.
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I think it means ubisoft games are region locked and they probably didnt tell you.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Ubisoft is a lovely company. That has nothing to do with morons being dumb enough to buy from sellers that are known to sell stolen goods, and then cry when they get burned by it. Ubisoft being lovely doesn't make everything they do wrong, or everyone who dislikes them automatically right about everything, and this is one of the rare cases Ubisoft are in the right. Also some of you guys are loving idiots if you think "cheapgamekeys.com" sites are in any way legit or that large companies like Ubisoft don't know which keys were stolen or which ones were not. I have literally worked fraud protection for a major software company and you sound like every idiot I ever had to call and explain to why they didn't get to keep their illegally purchased licenses that they totally bought legit from the same loving site as everybody else for 1/5th the normal purchase price. because that license was purchased using a stolen credit card that was later charged back and I have the entire loving transaction history right here and I may even have already talked to that poor grandma who got her credit card stolen and 50 license purchases racked up in two days. Sorry, I actually hate Ubisoft as much as anyone but this thread is pissing me off on a personal level.
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Jan 26, 2015 12:23
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Except that as far as I can tell a not-insignificant portion of the people having the games removed from their accounts bought the keys legally, just from a different country using a different pricing system. That's not ethical in the slightest, on Ubisoft's part.
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The Shortest Path posted:Except that as far as I can tell a not-insignificant portion of the people having the games removed from their accounts bought the keys legally, just from a different country using a different pricing system. That's not ethical in the slightest, on Ubisoft's part. Do we have any actual proof of that? Just because someone thinks their key was totally purchased legit doesn't mean it is. I would want to know first of all what "different country" we are talking about here. Was it Russia? Is it ever not Russia?
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Jan 26, 2015 12:39
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The resellers will reimburse the people hit by this, right?
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Jan 26, 2015 12:51
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Azraelle posted:The resellers will reimburse the people hit by this, right? HAH
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Azraelle posted:The resellers will reimburse the people hit by this, right? If it's a legitimate distributor then yes, in fact they can probably get you a replacement key at effectively no cost to themselves. If you bought a stolen key then expect whoever sold it to you to give the runaround and hope you give up on dealing with it. Maybe next time you should only do business with people you can actually get legal recourse against if they don't hold up their end of the bargain.
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Well, then why would anyone in their right mind buy anything from these sites and why are they allowed to operate?
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madmac posted:Also some of you guys are loving idiots if you think "cheapgamekeys.com" sites are in any way legit or that large companies like Ubisoft don't know which keys were stolen or which ones were not. Yes people going to notashadyrussiansite.com and buying games for £10 on release day should know better but acting like everyone should know at a glance that Greenmangaming is A-OK (in spite of it looking like a dodgy site when it was first put up) and CDKeys.com is stolen Russian keys is silly. There is a degree of WTF did you think in this but not ever key seller is dodgy and not all stolen key sites are selling for games less than a little careful shopping couldn't get you the same deal.
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The Shortest Path posted:Except that as far as I can tell a not-insignificant portion of the people having the games removed from their accounts bought the keys legally, just from a different country using a different pricing system. That's not ethical in the slightest, on Ubisoft's part. I use Kinguin as they always provided me cd keys that work and give me what I want for a price that seems fair (around 30-40 Eur/games, which fits what I would pay in Poland for the game in the polish language). Thats the exact text describing where the person the OP says had his key revoked bought it from. Kinguin is a shady reseller site that allows third parties to sell keys through them.
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Both GMG and Nuuvem have an extensive list of official partners that encompass nearly every major game publisher. I imagine Amazon's DD store has something similar as well. I understand if someone brand new to gaming is tricked by sites like G2A but for anyone else there are some big red flags like the fact that they are openly selling steam gifts, aforementioned partners stuff, or the fact that you're buying keys from random people through the site.
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Also, it deserves emphasis that just because some keys from a particular site are valid (or at least not yet identified as fradulent) doesn't mean all of them are. Anytime you are buying something from an unauthorized seller you are taking a risk. A small one in some cases but still a risk.
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Azraelle posted:Well, then why would anyone in their right mind buy anything from these sites and why are they allowed to operate? Because people are stupid and entitled to their dumb hobbies and addictions.
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buncha scrubs mad they paid full price for a game itt
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Mazreal posted:buncha scrubs mad they paid full price for a ubisoft game itt
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ipaid10buxforthis posted:Because people are stupid and entitled to their dumb hobbies and addictions. 
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MacGyvers_Mullet posted:Why do so many people think GMG is a key reseller? Yea, my mistake I heard it mentioned
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