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pagancow posted:as long as there isn't a direct call to action yep made this mistake once
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imagine. a world of poverty and snakes the dream
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pagancow posted:So all PBS stations call outs will mention a company name, and a product, but spoken completely by the people on the radio show. There will never be a "Buy this and you'll feel good!" claim made on anything, and thus are not advertisements. i'm actually okay with this
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pagancow posted:So on Public Broadcasting radio, part of the FCC rules state that you cannot run advertisements because it's meant to be a public space for people to get their message out. The idea is that the people own the air waves, and the FCC gives out licenses for people to operate in the public interest. Obviously PBS, runs most of these public broadcast stations. Their programming grew, and they needed a way to pay for all the premium content they were offering, so they decided to get "Underwriters". After checking with the lawyers, the rules were written in such that as long as there isn't a direct call to action, it is not an advertisement. while i agree, in principal - its dihonest to insinuate theres noi difference bewteen commercial radiop and the poo poo at n below 89.9 on the fm dial. there are WAY fewer ads and they are WAY less intrusive than u get at the top of the band. its really dumb and honesttly hilarious to insinuate or hyperbole otherwise
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Feb 3, 2015 06:06
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They've been getting a little more dicey these days, and honestly the "call to action" is vague and not even defined. "Underwritten by Pajamagram. Making matching pajamas for the entire family. Learn more at Pajama Gram dot com" Is asking the reader to learn more a call to action?
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Feb 3, 2015 06:07
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pagancow posted:They've been getting a little more dicey these days, and honestly the "call to action" is vague and not even defined. well it's presenting the option. probably breaking the spirit of the ruling but certainly not the wording as you've presented it
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Feb 3, 2015 06:09
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Also NPR stations announce underwriters after they have donated up to a certain threshold, and i'm pretty sure the donor gets to write the copy. NPR just tells them how to keep it legal
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Feb 3, 2015 06:09
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"Visit Pajama Gram dot com to learn more" would be a call to action
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Feb 3, 2015 06:10
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do u hate it pagancow how not 100% of all media is ads
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like n1 is gonna listen to a couple hours of npr vs jack fm and think 'yea same poo poo'. one of them is obviously begrudgingly runing ads due to the realities of the cost of producing content and the other is a vehicle to sell ads. im not anti ad, as im sure youv'e gleaned from my posting in your threads and a large % of my personal income is derived from ads and/or selling content - but its pretty freakin dishonest to use your obviously privilaged and authoritaive position to coerce the idiot denizens of YOSPOS that the public and private parts of the fm band are equiv
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Feb 3, 2015 06:11
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echinopsis posted:do u hate it pagancow how not 100% of all media is ads https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edZVEVKYiEo&t=17s
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Feb 3, 2015 06:17
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Smythe posted:like n1 is gonna listen to a couple hours of npr vs jack fm and think 'yea same poo poo'. one of them is obviously begrudgingly runing ads due to the realities of the cost of producing content and the other is a vehicle to sell ads. im not anti ad, as im sure youv'e gleaned from my posting in your threads and a large % of my personal income is derived from ads and/or selling content - but its pretty freakin dishonest to use your obviously privilaged and authoritaive position to coerce the idiot denizens of YOSPOS that the public and private parts of the fm band are equiv I pay money to run my message on your station, and just because one has weird guidelines its not advertising????
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Feb 3, 2015 06:18
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the worlds best award you can ever win is a fat paycheck
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Feb 3, 2015 06:20
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think about that
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Feb 3, 2015 06:20
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pagancow posted:I pay money to run my message on your station, and just because one has weird guidelines its not advertising???? listen nobdy not even me said its not ads but its obvious, and im not going to retype my first message for you due to epically fail reading comprehension, but its dishonest to put some retarded equivalence between jackfm and kpcc
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Feb 3, 2015 06:23
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if your goal is to try to normalize overt intrusive advertising you have a vested interest in not understanding the difference
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Feb 3, 2015 06:29
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bu bu but they're all ads! deliberately ignores the miles of difference between something intentionally in your face or subtly manipulative and a generic sponsorship message presented as such by the radio host
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Feb 3, 2015 06:30
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dont twist my totally coherent posts into some fail anti ad posts. ads are what allwo us to get cool poo poo for free. but its mega false equivilence to say that npr and jack fm are the same because of underwriting. listen to them for 20 minutes and it'll be pretty freakin obvious that whoever penned that nonsense was a hyperbole hydra
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infernal machines posted:bu bu but they're all ads! deliberately ignores the miles of difference between something intentionally in your face or subtly manipulative and a generic sponsorship message presented as such by the radio host ye sthis post is fine but the first doesnt apply to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Feb 3, 2015 06:38
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infernal machines posted:if your goal is to try to normalize overt intrusive advertising you have a vested interest in not understanding the difference this post is fine toooooo!!!!!!!!! burt usuualyl ur so hosed up retarded i said u sucked without reaidng your posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Feb 3, 2015 06:39
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Smythe posted:listen nobdy not even me said its not ads but its obvious, and im not going to retype my first message for you due to epically fail reading comprehension, but its dishonest to put some retarded equivalence between jackfm and kpcc you just have a problem because one is done in your style and taste, and the other is done in the style of taste of another audience. not really twisting words here, just pointing out the obvious
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Feb 3, 2015 07:00
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pagancow posted:you just have a problem because one is done in your style and taste, and the other is done in the style of taste of another audience. not a problem at all. its just one set of ads takes like 15 mins oif the hour and other takes like 3
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Feb 3, 2015 07:01
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one time i watched a movie on tnt and it had a 12 minute ad break
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Feb 3, 2015 07:02
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I'm honestly surprised TNT is still around but I guess we'll never run out of law and order reruns
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Feb 3, 2015 07:07
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used to ride the greyhound all the time and the pittsburgh bus station was ALWAYS showing tnt and it was ALWAYS law and order. idk why they didn't show the news or the weather. maybe the janitors liked law and order
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Feb 3, 2015 07:08
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what they should really show is the pittsburgh pbs station that shows nothing but rick sebak documentaries, to get people pumped up about being in pittsburgh.
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Feb 3, 2015 07:09
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anyway, chome
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chome
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Smythe posted:this post is fine toooooo!!!!!!!!! burt usuualyl ur so hosed up retarded i said u sucked without reaidng your posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rofl
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Feb 3, 2015 07:13
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As a Millennial I posted:I'm honestly surprised TNT is still around but I guess we'll never run out of law and order reruns isn't TNT on basic cable now?
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Feb 3, 2015 15:16
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yeah they canceled franklin and bash. :'(
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Feb 3, 2015 17:06
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infernal machines posted:"Visit Pajama Gram dot com to learn more" some douchebags saved a bunch of money and cut emissions by switching to delicious fracked american natural gas learn more at think about it dot org
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Feb 3, 2015 17:19
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franklin and bash looked like the bro-iest show ever so I never watched it
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Feb 3, 2015 17:24
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Spime Wrangler posted:learn more at think about it dot org nope, call to action. "You can learn more at think about it dot org" is acceptable
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Feb 3, 2015 17:38
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either way the best part is the call to action in the form of a url
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Someone was really triggered by all those superbowl ads http://thewilderness.me/ad-sense/ qirex posted:franklin and bash looked like the bro-iest show ever so I never watched it Yes that was a real show. With Andre Braugher.
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lol you gotta be real insecure to lash out against that like a girl ad
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Or Always Maxi Pads shaming men to a national audience via the Twitter hashtag #LikeAGirl. If Always truly wanted to make a brave ad they would have used the hashtag #LikeAMan and portrayed a nervous guy buying maxi pads. That takes real courage. But, deservedly so, it was Nationwide’s dead Sixth Sense kid ad that stole the spotlight, and sucked any joy Super Bowl viewers were trying to salvage from watching two hated teams in the first place. After viewing the ad again post game, I had to hunt down Sarah Maclachlan’s ASPCA abused dog ad just to cheer me up so I could sleep. It was that bad.
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lol train this guy to yospos
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