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Humboldt Squid
Jan 21, 2006


This month's theme is expression!
Expression is more than the look on someone's face, body language,your palette, composition and mood of your piece all work together to create expression within the work (and hopefully within the viewer).
Anyway, facial expressions are actually kind of a pain in the butt, so I really recommend The Artist's Complete Guide to Facial Expression which goes over everything you need to know in exhausting, excruciatingly boring detail.

Here's some examples!

Picasso

Courbet and Sophie Taeuber-Arp

Hans Richter and Judy Chicago

Fernando Botero and D. Jeffrey Mims

Yue Minjin


Here's 50 1-2 min. expression studies. Proportions are all over the place (especially on that last one) because i wasn't really focusing on that, just the expressions themselves

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Scathach
Apr 4, 2011

You know that thing where you sleep on your arm funny and when you wake up it's all numb? Yeah that's my whole world right now.


Hey I finally have a thing that matches the theme! Yay. Drew a quick piece for a thing I'm writing, my main protagonist. I was originally going to draw her screaming, didn't have the patience, and so I guess that's the next project.

neonnoodle
Mar 20, 2008

by exmarx
Your work often looks like it is made from manipulated photos, not hand-drawing. If you traced or did filters on a photo and added some details, it seems kind of deceiving to call it "drawing".

Scathach
Apr 4, 2011

You know that thing where you sleep on your arm funny and when you wake up it's all numb? Yeah that's my whole world right now.


They're drawings, not manipulations or traces. I draw them in little bits color by color-- I can post a progression on the next one I do if you want. The bigger ones take me about eight hours, this one took me four or five.

Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

La! La! La! Laaaa!



College Slice

Scathach posted:

They're drawings, not manipulations or traces. I draw them in little bits color by color-- I can post a progression on the next one I do if you want. The bigger ones take me about eight hours, this one took me four or five.

I would love to see a progression! I learn a ton from seeing other peoples workflows / techniques.

neonnoodle
Mar 20, 2008

by exmarx
I think I understand the distinction you're making, so please take the following just as a critique.

When you work very carefully from photos--so carefully that the "photographic" aesthetic aspects of the original are carried over into the final piece, I think it undermines the organic elements that make artwork look like a human product.

When traditional artists work from photos, they typically reinterpret the underlying structure and form of the subject, rather than the individual patches of color that comprise the surface. For example, Norman Rockwell worked extensively from photos and even traced onto his canvasses using a projector. However, he enlivened the source material through caricature and artistic reinterpretation, rather than exact copying. There is a reason for that.

Artists who draw/paint from life create finished works that do not look like photos, even if their technique and style are "realistic" and intensely refined. The way human eyes see form and color is different from the way cameras do, and things are lost in translation.

I respect the amount of careful work you obviously put into the process of doing these pieces but I don't think the finished work is served well by your approach.

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

^man that's about the nicest way to say it.

i am harry fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Feb 1, 2015

SexyBlindfold
Apr 24, 2008
i dont care how much probation i get capital letters are for squares hehe im so laid back an nice please read my low effort shitposts about the arab spring

thanxs!!!
Tried my hand at some expressions.



For others interested in the subject, I suggest you focus on the six core emotions: happiness, sadness, love, anger, fear and duckface.

JamieTheD
Nov 4, 2011

LPer, Reviewer, Mad Welshman

(Yes, that's a self portrait)

SexyBlindfold posted:

For others interested in the subject, I suggest you focus on the six core emotions: happiness, sadness, love, anger, fear and duckface.

Another book I found on expressions that was kind of useful was Making Faces: Drawing Expressions for Comics and Cartoons. If you like case study type art-books, well, I find cartoon expressions a good place to start.

Also, god-drat, that duckface is so perfect. Bad selfies for life!

Found Sound
Jun 8, 2010





(no points for guessing what i've been playing this week)

Today marks the one-month mark of me actually drawing daily. I don't always draw stuff that's challenging, or cool, or showable to anyone but myself, but I'm feeling pretty good at making myself actually draw something every day, even if it's just some goofy five minute sketch. Baby steps, right?

raging bullwinkle
Jun 15, 2011
Coincidentally, I just decided to stop drawing faces. I feel like I've spent the better part of my drawing life trying to draw faces and they still look like poo poo. Maybe the secret lies in never drawing another face again

Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry

I don't know what that is, but I feel vaguely uneasy looking at it, like I've been caught looking at some sort of alien porn.

I tried to do some kitty expressions real quick. Kitties! :3:

Sharpest Crayon fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Feb 3, 2015

Propitious Jerk
Sep 13, 2010
A couple of figure drawings. First one is a character sketch for a role-playing campaign set in the 1920's. The character is an ex-prizefighter so I wanted the portrait to look like the kind of picture they might give out to fans for signing and I wanted him to look proud.

The second picture was drawn while listening to an EDM playlist. I wanted to go for something dynamic with more movement, and I'd like to play around with bright colours, when I start painting it I'd like to use a lot of neon against deep shadows.



petrol blue
Feb 9, 2013

sugar and spice
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Making the bf a valentine's :3:

e: Pissed about with the colour balance.

petrol blue fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Feb 4, 2015

Scathach
Apr 4, 2011

You know that thing where you sleep on your arm funny and when you wake up it's all numb? Yeah that's my whole world right now.


Did a quick drawing for the thread and saved it at a few points. Drawn using the Samsung Note tablet, a Wacom stylus from a really old Toshiba touch screen, and Sketchbook Pro.








Anyway thanks for the input.

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice
Continuing my World of Warcraft series. They've all got expressions, I guess.

Goblin:

Draenei:

Orc:


Dunno which one I should do next. Dwarf, maybe? Worgen?

RizieN
May 15, 2004

and it was still hot.

Phylodox posted:

Continuing my World of Warcraft series. They've all got expressions, I guess.

Goblin:

Draenei:

Orc:


Dunno which one I should do next. Dwarf, maybe? Worgen?

Tauren or Dryad or that bear druid thing from Warcraft 3 (the best warcraft). Neat pictures btw.

Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry


Neat! I thought you'd lay down big areas first, then go for the detail. It's cool to see how you just pop every area down as it's gonna be. This has a very "trainspotting" vibe to it.


Phylodox posted:

Continuing my World of Warcraft series.

Dwarves dwarves dwarves I vote for dwarves do it do it.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


I'm going to say Pandaren, because while real pandas are big dumb stupids, fictional pandas are awesome.

petrol blue
Feb 9, 2013

sugar and spice
and
ethanol slammers

Scathach posted:

Did a quick drawing for the thread and saved it at a few points. Drawn using the Samsung Note tablet, a Wacom stylus from a really old Toshiba touch screen, and Sketchbook Pro.

:aaaaa: you can use random styluses with it? This I gotta try!

E: merloc, obviously.

the_lion
Jun 8, 2010

On the hunt for prey... :D
Dead is an expression, right? Right.

Scathach
Apr 4, 2011

You know that thing where you sleep on your arm funny and when you wake up it's all numb? Yeah that's my whole world right now.


petrol blue posted:

:aaaaa: you can use random styluses with it? This I gotta try!

It has to be Wacom compatible, apparently Toshiba laptops went through a "wacom touch screen" phase at one point so I got lucky. There are also pen-sized ones for the Note phones, which are really nice if you don't like the tiny stylus the tablet comes with. Wacom made a $40 Bamboo stylus just for the note, which looks awesome but I haven't tried it yet.

Sharpest Crayon posted:

Neat! I thought you'd lay down big areas first, then go for the detail. It's cool to see how you just pop every area down as it's gonna be. This has a very "trainspotting" vibe to it

Dwarves dwarves dwarves I vote for dwarves do it do it.

Thanks!

I'm loving the kitty expressions up there. Also voting for dwarves because they're all about fire and brimstone and awesome stuff.

Humboldt Squid
Jan 21, 2006

Dicynodonts are pretty hard to draw.

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice
Okay, it looks like the dorfs have it.



DORFDORFDORFDORFDORF

Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry

the_lion posted:

Dead is an expression, right? Right.

The expressions on the ghosts count! No wait.. ghosts are dead, too. Oh well. I've seen people actually shove their tongue out while concentrating.


Awww lookit the widdle dude there, all yeaah I'm bustin' outta here :3:

Phylodox posted:




DORFDORFDORFDORFDORF

gently caress YEA DORF! :black101:


I've been experimenting with borders lately.

petrol blue
Feb 9, 2013

sugar and spice
and
ethanol slammers

Scathach posted:

It has to be Wacom compatible, apparently Toshiba laptops went through a "wacom touch screen" phase at one point so I got lucky. There are also pen-sized ones for the Note phones, which are really nice if you don't like the tiny stylus the tablet comes with. Wacom made a $40 Bamboo stylus just for the note, which looks awesome but I haven't tried it yet.

Aye, probably because they made the digitizer in the Samsung and the Toshiba - standard graphire stylus doesn't work, for what it's worth. Now I want one of those laptops... Probably still be more powerful than my current frankendesktop... The newer toshiba version, the Satellite, isn't too pricey, but still way outta my price range (which is about 0 to 'found it outside someone's house').

JuniperCake
Jan 26, 2013

Phylodox posted:

Okay, it looks like the dorfs have it.



DORFDORFDORFDORFDORF

That's a kickass dwarf.

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice
Oh, man, dorfs are awesome, I should have done one earlier.



I'm having so much fun with this guy. I've named him Bastard.

petrol blue
Feb 9, 2013

sugar and spice
and
ethanol slammers
Give us a girldorf, complete with sexy beard!

e: Summat like

Scathach
Apr 4, 2011

You know that thing where you sleep on your arm funny and when you wake up it's all numb? Yeah that's my whole world right now.


Thank you for the dorf!

Those old Toshiba styluses are tough as hell... I sat on one, snapped it in half, duct-taped it, and it's still going. I mean I look like a doofus with a taped stylus, but whatever.

petrol blue
Feb 9, 2013

sugar and spice
and
ethanol slammers
I'm yet to see a stylus that doesn't look goofy as hell. The Galaxy default one avoids looking actively stupid by being too small to see, but otherwise you're stuck with Babby's First Pen.

Propitious Jerk
Sep 13, 2010
Spent the evening working on a belated birthday gift for a friend. I think I'm getting the hang of this digital drawing stuff! Used a lot of soft, airbrushy strokes to build up shadows and then used some basic hard-edge brush marks to add highlights and then went back in with a soft eraser to pull it back a bit.

McKilligan
May 13, 2007

Acey Deezy
Click for huge


An in-progress shot of something I've been working on - would you believe it's only like 25% done? gently caress. Real pleased with it so far, though.

Propitious Jerk
Sep 13, 2010

McKilligan posted:

Click for huge


An in-progress shot of something I've been working on - would you believe it's only like 25% done? gently caress. Real pleased with it so far, though.

This is awesome. I really dig the sky and tree textures; they look like an old engraving for a children's storybook. I'm looking forward to seeing how you finish the interior.

Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

La! La! La! Laaaa!



College Slice

McKilligan posted:

Click for huge


An in-progress shot of something I've been working on - would you believe it's only like 25% done? gently caress. Real pleased with it so far, though.

Wow. Amazing line work, and composition and... everything.

And it counts for the theme, since it left me with an :aaaaa: expression!

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice
Still dorfin' it up:


Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this isn't great but dayumn dude your linework on the dorf sketch is loving beautiful, why you gotta be all covering it up? I mean, I get wanting to go for realistic, but considering the warcraft designs are cartoony to begin with, it's a shame not to flaunt those lines.
(I may be a bit biased towards linework since I never did realism well)

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice

Sharpest Crayon posted:

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this isn't great but dayumn dude your linework on the dorf sketch is loving beautiful, why you gotta be all covering it up? I mean, I get wanting to go for realistic, but considering the warcraft designs are cartoony to begin with, it's a shame not to flaunt those lines.
(I may be a bit biased towards linework since I never did realism well)

Well, the whole point of the exercise was for me to stop using lines and describe forms using nothing but light and colour. But just so no one goes home unhappy, here's a couple of commissions I did recently:



There seems to be a surprisingly good amount of money in drawing World of Warcraft fanart for people.

petrol blue
Feb 9, 2013

sugar and spice
and
ethanol slammers

Phylodox posted:

There seems to be a surprisingly good amount of money in drawing World of Warcraft fanart for people.

This path ends with a cardboard sign saying "will draw your porn for cash". :ohdear:

e: Neither girldorf had a beard, but I guess the steer-horn crotch-ornament is enough to call it even. :)

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Scathach
Apr 4, 2011

You know that thing where you sleep on your arm funny and when you wake up it's all numb? Yeah that's my whole world right now.


Phylodox posted:

There seems to be a surprisingly good amount of money in drawing World of Warcraft fanart for people.

There used to be an online company made up of a few people that would draw your MMO character for you and they charged like $700 and up.

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