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puberty worked me over
May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747
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puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Jan 4, 2020

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puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Jan 4, 2020

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by Cyrano4747
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May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747
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puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Jan 4, 2020

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puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Jan 4, 2020

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May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747
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puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Jan 4, 2020

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by Cyrano4747
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by Cyrano4747
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May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747
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puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Jan 4, 2020

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May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747
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puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Jan 4, 2020

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May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747
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puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Jan 4, 2020

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by Cyrano4747
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May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747
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puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Jan 4, 2020

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May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747
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puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Jan 4, 2020

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May 20, 2013

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puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Jan 4, 2020

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May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747
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puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Jan 4, 2020

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May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747
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puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Jan 4, 2020

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May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747
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May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747
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puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Jan 4, 2020

puberty worked me over
May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747
Car: 2004 Ford Focus ZX3 2.0L DOHC

Issue: Parking brake is not stopping the rear wheels.

Replaced Components
- Parking brake intermediate cable from the lever to the rear suspension mounting points.
- Parking brake rear cables and connectors to the intermediate cable.
- Both rear brake shoes, hardware, drums, wheel bearings, dust caps, wheel cylinders, and hard lines. Bled all four corners with a vacuum bleeder.

Adjustment
Pulled up 8 clicks on PB lever and tightened nut down until resistance could be felt. Brake shoes adjusted outward until they just slightly rubbed against the drum during installation.

Observations
- Movement of parking brake lever pulls and releases tension on both cables on the backing plates of the rear drum brake assemblies.
- Rear drums increase in temperature after vehicle use

Known Possible Reasons For Issue
- Brake shoe adjustment conducted improperly
- Parking brake return spring (2 on diagram) installed improperly
- Parking brake lever adjusted improperly

Questions
- How can I verify proper shoe adjustment?
- Is there any adjustment or part I am missing?

Thank you.

I actually snapped a picture of the passenger's side before buttoning it up:




Some installation instructions from the service manual:



puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Nov 23, 2015

puberty worked me over
May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747

Raluek posted:

Drum brakes are supposed to drag more than that. The way I adjust mine is such that when you throw the wheel as hard as you can, it spins for 1.5 revolutions before stopping.

Okay, thanks. Unfortunately these can't be adjusted from the outside so I'll be taking the drum off and messing with the adjuster . Can't check the 1.5 revolutions before putting the drum back on but I'll just set them to have much more resistance when the drum gets put on and see if that works. Bit of a pain in the rear end really, have to rotate the drum 20 revolutions backward while applying 185 ft-lbs to the wheel nut.

The adjusters are supposed to "self-adjust" outward under braking but apparently that isn't happening enough. I made sure both of the adjusters could freely turn before installing them again so I'm thinking they're not seized. That said I didn't grease them.

puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Nov 23, 2015

puberty worked me over
May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747

CharlieWhiskey posted:

First of all, I admire and applaud your dispassionate and academic approach to anything involving drum brakes. I have spent too many hours of my life literally yelling at drum brakes. They make me irrationally angry.

Anyways, to me, it all looks good. How do the brakes feel now? Parking brake working again?

Thank you.

The parking brake did not work the first time and still does not work after re-opening the drums and finding the the shoes were already adjusted as far outward as physically possible to allow the drum to fit back on.

I tried the following methods to get the self-adjusters to push out further with everything put back together:

- Apply brake pedal several times with vehicle off
- Apply brake pedal several times with vehicle off with parking brake engaged and adjusted
- Drive car in reverse at 20-30 mph and apply brakes
- Drive car in reverse at 20-30 mph and apply brakes with parking brake engaged and adjusted

There is an opening accessed by removing a rubber cover on either backing plate but it does not seem feasible at all to access the adjuster from this opening. The opening is lower than the adjuster and far offset from it.

Here is a diagram of the backing plate:


This kind of futzing around for 8 hours on a project that shouldn't take any time at all is par for the course so I'm probably forgetting something extremely obvious. Due to my lovely communication skills I am probably not providing enough information for someone else to infer what that issue is.

puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Dec 1, 2015

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May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747
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May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747
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puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Jan 4, 2020

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May 20, 2013

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May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747
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puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Jan 4, 2020

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May 20, 2013

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puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Jan 4, 2020

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May 20, 2013

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puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Jan 4, 2020

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May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747
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May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747
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puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Jan 4, 2020

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