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i think i'm fine with either EXAKT or PMom really. even though I think pmom is the scum, i disagree that we can't lynch him based on whatever his claimed results are with 5 left. if it feels like a lie, it probably is. i don't really care about "confirmation" of his claim since i think the claim isn't true. guessing he's a rolecop/hatermaker and not an oracle/hatermaker. oracle is a great CYA claim to make as a final scum especially with a claimed 3p already out there.
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Actually I definitely want EXAKT first, because KB isn't really confirmed. i'm not even considering the possibility of voting KB today, but seeing EXAKT's flip would make me feel a lot better about a scenario in which we: - lynch EXAKT today - use KB's power on PMom tonight - use said results to determine the next day's lynch we have enough night control tonight where we can for certain get those results.
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Poque posted:Actually I definitely want EXAKT first, because KB isn't really confirmed. i'm not even considering the possibility of voting KB today, but seeing EXAKT's flip would make me feel a lot better about a scenario in which we: Yeah, this works for me. ##vote Exakt
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##vote EXAKT
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my only hangup on that is that you admit KB isn't confirmed, and then want to trust KB's night action which if it isn't the cop action, will just be flavor that is probably true anyway KB's night action results are not confirmable and ultimately don't matter tbqh
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Feb 20, 2015 17:08
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the purpose of this is that I would trust KB's results given EXAKT flipping what he's claiming.
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i don't see a situation where EXAKT is a lyncher on scum KB, because PMom and Keane would still have conflicting claims
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Ooooooooh. Okay I didn't think of that that way, fair enough. Still KB could technically be a 3P lynchee but that'd be real strange
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Feb 20, 2015 17:13
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Actually that'd be my only concern - if KB is a 3P lynchee and we lynch Exakt, KB leaves the game victorious cause he didnt die, then whoever the last scum is successfully NKs someone and boom Keane wins with the scum. This might be  territory though
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Feb 20, 2015 17:14
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Feb 20, 2015 17:18
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Kumbamontu posted:Actually that'd be my only concern - if KB is a 3P lynchee and we lynch Exakt, KB leaves the game victorious cause he didnt die, then whoever the last scum is successfully NKs someone and boom Keane wins with the scum. This might be What?
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CCKeane posted:What? For sake of argument, assume Pmom is scum and lying about # of threats. If Exakt is a 3P lyncher, it's not outside the realm of possibility that KB, his target, is a 3P lynchee whose goal is just to survive until the lyncher dies. If we kill Exakt, in this scenario KB would leave the game a winner, leaving 5 people alive going into night. Scum successfully kill someone, leaving 1 scum + you vs 2 town, and town loses. This is really though as I just realized this requires you to think there were 3 scum + 3 3P in a 13 player though, which is probably crazy
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Feb 20, 2015 17:21
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do lynchees usually leave the game? wouldn't that just be a modified survivor?
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Feb 20, 2015 17:21
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Poque posted:do lynchees usually leave the game? wouldn't that just be a modified survivor? I don't think I've ever actually played a game with a lyncher/lynchee before so I honestly don't know
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Feb 20, 2015 17:22
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like it's hard to believe a lynchee would exist in a game with a survivor, that'd just be super mean to the Survivor it'd be like having a doctor and a town jailer in the same game
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Poque posted:like it's hard to believe a lynchee would exist in a game with a survivor, that'd just be super mean to the Survivor Quark is eternally suffering!
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Feb 20, 2015 17:23
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Yeah I was just trying to figure out if there were any potential holes in this plan and barring that I don't see a downside
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Feb 20, 2015 17:23
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Kumba don't protect me tonight. Let Taste watch me. This narrows the options for the scum tonight and prevents us from doubling up.
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Feb 20, 2015 17:33
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King Burgundy posted:Kumba don't protect me tonight. Let Taste watch me. This narrows the options for the scum tonight and prevents us from doubling up. ..... 
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I didn't immediately understand why you were suggesting that but okay fair enough
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Feb 20, 2015 17:36
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I dont' get it
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Feb 20, 2015 17:37
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Poque posted:I dont' get it Scum can't kill KB without getting watched.
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Feb 20, 2015 17:39
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LET'S DO THIS.
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but then they just kill Taste
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Feb 20, 2015 17:40
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Poque posted:but then they just kill Taste If you really want to chat about this we can. Taste is our best possible night kill since hell come back. That narrows the possible kill and protect targets significantly.
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Feb 20, 2015 17:42
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or they kill me
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Feb 20, 2015 17:43
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Kumbamontu posted:or they kill me If you don't self protect. If taste didn't switch up his watch to you. Etc. There is a bit of wifom. The only important thing is you don't protect me. I'll let you and taste play your best game of Chicken with the scum.
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I forgot about taste's revival claim. i'm ready to evict exakt, would like pmom to talk though
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King Burgundy posted:I'll let you and taste play your best game of Chicken with the scum. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4recrtm4cks
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I think it is PMom, actually. Asiina said: Flavour and role and alignment are all very closely linked. Talking about your flavour may not be the best idea! Scum have fake claims. Right now we have seven: KB: Sisko Poque: Keira Kumba: Bashir Taste: Dax Myself: Quark Exakt: That Maquis Dickbag (Fakeclaim of Nog) PMom: That Oracle person Dead scum: Rarity had a claim of General Martok I believe Exakt's real and fake claim - he was making Ferengi references early enough. All the claims make sense except for PMom's. I don't like flavor arguments, but they are linked this game and think this makes sense.
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Feb 20, 2015 19:11
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##vote PMom
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Feb 20, 2015 19:13
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I'm pretty drat sure of this one.
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Votecount for Day 3  Pinterest Mom (2): Kumbamontu, EXAKT Science, EXAKT Science (1): King Burgundy, Poque, Kumbamontu (1): Pinterest Mom CCKeane (0): Poque, Not Voting (3): EXAKT Science, Kumbamontu, PoqueWith 7 alive, it's 4 votes to lynch. The current deadline is February 20th, 2015 at 11 p.m. EST -- that's in about 9 hours, 44 minutes.
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The mafia arguments: The principle argument I have here is his play today, especially w/r/t switching the non-town to threats to town - that's a HUGE change. Plus PMom has dropped off the map and let us discuss around him. His secondary ability is also one that is distinctly more useful to scum than town. PMom if you are town, hammering yourself today would be the best move - we need your secondary ability out of the game and you're going to be under suspicion until you are voted off. If you are telling the truth re: Threats to town, we have a clear idea of who it is and we should be able to solve the game with night actions by eliminating Exakt tomorrow. But I am serious business going all in on PMom being scum right now.
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If PMom is actually town: You need to get rid of Exakt tomorrow because otherwise scum can force a win by leaving themselves, KB, and Exakt alive on the last day. Exakt wins with scum by voting KB.
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Feb 20, 2015 19:19
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enh ##vote pmom
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Feb 20, 2015 19:20
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Pinterest Mom posted:enh ##vote pmom Unvote, take the hammer instead.
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Feb 20, 2015 19:21
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CCKeane posted:Unvote, take the hammer instead. Unless you are scum and realized that you can't win.
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And the fact that went all gungho on me as soon as I cased him without actually casing me, and then when he posted this:Pinterest Mom posted:Two threats to DS9. Exakt + ? my name mysteriously vanished from his possible threat list, as if he didn't actually believe I was scum in the first place preview edit: and then he puts himself at -1 instead loving lmao
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CCKeane posted:Unless you are scum and realized that you can't win.
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