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attackmole posted:4 year ban is nuuuuuts. Would that be something that could be reduced/appealed? I know right now the 1-year is a joke because you show up, say "it was from my black market protein powder!!!" and get it reduced to 6 months but 4 years seems insane. Don't do roids or face a 4 year ban from the UFC seems like a fair trade. The major problem is going to be cultivating a diverse field of PPV draws to account for the implications a 4 year ban would cause.
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attackmole posted:4 year ban is nuuuuuts. Would that be something that could be reduced/appealed? I know right now the 1-year is a joke because you show up, say "it was from my black market protein powder!!!" and get it reduced to 6 months but 4 years seems insane. They have hammered home in this press conference that everyone deserves due process but I don't think it's going to be the Hermes Franca thing where you show up and act sad and get your suspension cut in half. But still it sounds like they're going to have to rely a little bit on the commissions to actually enforce the suspensions or whatever. It's going to be a complicated legal issue if the NSAC can honor UFC suspensions.
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Mr. Carlisle posted:Thank you for posting these. If they actually stick with these changes they sound like really good moves. There's going to be a lot of legal wrangling at the beginning because for the stuff the UFC is advocating the commissions do, there's going to have to be like eight meetings where the comissions get around to actually implementing it, and for the stuff the UFC is doing on their own they're going to have to rewrite all their fighter contracts to make the test results binding. Once they're past that teething stage and everything's in place, though, this is definitely going to drastically reduce the use of PEDs. It'll be really interesting to see how the fighting landscape changes.
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I also think it's funny that they keep challenging Bellator to match their drug testing which is hilarious because they operate so heavily on Indian resorts with basically nothing
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DumbWhiteGuy posted:They have hammered home in this press conference that everyone deserves due process but I don't think it's going to be the Hermes Franca thing where you show up and act sad and get your suspension cut in half. But still it sounds like they're going to have to rely a little bit on the commissions to actually enforce the suspensions or whatever. It's going to be a complicated legal issue if the NSAC can honor UFC suspensions. Franca didn't get his sentence reduced. Sherk did because he lied and said his supplements were tainted.
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I wish my supplements would be tainted sometimes, I want to get all jacked up from my protein powder
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Feb 18, 2015 20:25
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It would be cool if you could get your sentence reduced by snitching on other users. Not that I condone snitching, but I would have fun watching it happen on Fight Pass.
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Feb 18, 2015 20:31
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Bubba Smith posted:It would be cool if you could get your sentence reduced by snitching on other users. Not that I condone snitching, but I would have fun watching it happen on Fight Pass. Jon Jones will be that nerd in the front of the class, straining to raise his hand as hard as he can. "OOH OOH OOH RIGHT HERE, CALL ON ME!"
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Feb 18, 2015 20:55
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I'm hoping this involves a bus painted red, white and blue like Lex Luger's call to action. A patriotic bus that travels the world making people piss in cups.
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fatherdog posted:There's going to be a lot of legal wrangling at the beginning because for the stuff the UFC is advocating the commissions do, there's going to have to be like eight meetings where the comissions get around to actually implementing it, and for the stuff the UFC is doing on their own they're going to have to rewrite all their fighter contracts to make the test results binding. Once they're past that teething stage and everything's in place, though, this is definitely going to drastically reduce the use of PEDs. It'll be really interesting to see how the fighting landscape changes. The way I read it the other reason for wanting commission bans versus UFC bans is that if the commission bans someone for a year and the UFC bans them for 4 years they'll just go to another promotion after the year is up.
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Fork of Unknown Origins posted:The way I read it the other reason for wanting commission bans versus UFC bans is that if the commission bans someone for a year and the UFC bans them for 4 years they'll just go to another promotion after the year is up. Not if they redo all their fighter contracts as they come up for renewal.
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Fork of Unknown Origins posted:The way I read it the other reason for wanting commission bans versus UFC bans is that if the commission bans someone for a year and the UFC bans them for 4 years they'll just go to another promotion after the year is up. UFC stressed that they aren't doing the testing or punishment. They will hire a third party to test, but the punishment still has to come from the Athletic Commissions.
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Fozzy The Bear posted:UFC stressed that they aren't doing the testing or punishment. They will hire a third party to test, but the punishment still has to come from the Athletic Commissions. yep, the UFC doesn't want to be the one actually imposing the ban, because when the fighter inevitably appeals it would be easier if they had to fight the system of an athletic commission where they have all the legal kinks worked out and the probability of overturning the ban is low. If the UFC is trying to keep a fighter from working all by themselves without the legal framework of a AC, then they are open to lawsuits. That is going to be the case anyway for the very, very few times when there is no AC and they have to self-regulate, but if a AC is available, its easier to let them do it and have all the other AC's reciprocate and recognize the ban
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triplexpac posted:I wish my supplements would be tainted sometimes, I want to get all jacked up from my protein powder There's a gov website that lists all the banned supplements. Just buy those.
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Feb 18, 2015 21:22
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I wonder if this means they'll get GSP to unretire
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Georges St-Pierre @GeorgesStPierre posted:Very happy to learn about the UFC announcing a new comprehensive random PED testing.
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mewse posted:*GSP awkwardly tries to hide erection* Dee biggest challenge of my coreeeer.
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So I take it that number of fighters in the UFC is gonna be a lot shorter than 585 by year's end
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Chris James 2 posted:So I take it that number of fighters in the UFC is gonna be a lot shorter than 585 by year's end it will actually balloon to 863 after the UFC signs a couple hundred nobodies due fights falling out most of them will be chosen by entering common names into the sherdog fight finder and choosing guys with no picture
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MysteryNad posted:it will actually balloon to 863 after the UFC signs a couple hundred nobodies due fights falling out I assumed this is how Sean Shelby finds flyweights.
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hahaha Ronda R: "The drug testing I underwent at 14 or 16 was more stringent than what I had in MMA."
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triplexpac posted:I wish my supplements would be tainted sometimes, I want to get all jacked up from my protein powder They are
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Bundt Cake posted:They are I heard chael talking on the radio on my way home that the new out of contest testing is going to cost around 15 million annually out of pocket for the UFC. Does that seem about right or will it be higher/lower?
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Dr. Pancakes posted:Yeah they don't contain any actual protein If it were anywhere close to that they would have said so instead of saying "several million". It's not in the UFC's best interests, PR-wise, to undersell the amount of money they're devoting to this.
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Bundt Cake posted:They are I used to work in a store that sold supplements. Usually just before the FDA flagged something as being tainted, it would fly off the shelves. I remember once a guy bought like 9 bottles of some 'natural testosterone enhancer' at $100 each; then later that afternoon we got a notice to pull it from the shelves immediately.
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