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Spoiler: Last years thread was just copy pasted. I'm pretty much doing the same with this except I'm updating team changes and whatnot. For riders like MM, JLo , Rossi, Pedrosa etc. I'm just leaving the same descriptions. We all know them anyway. We do have some new teams and new players, and they'll get a bit of text. Well here we are, now that football is done we're getting back into the racing season, I'm pumped and hoping for a GREAT year of racing with minimal injuries and no deaths. This thread will be for the discussion of MotoGP, WSBK, BSB, and AMA racing. There will be SPOILERS in this thread. So if the race has been run and you haven't watched it yet, DON'T CLICK ON THIS loving THREAD because we won't be using spoiler tags after the race. So fair warning, we won't be using spoiler tags and if you haven't seen the race yet and click on this thread and then find out who won, don't bitch because you were warned. 2015 Race schedule pre:DATE Country Circuit 29-Mar Qatar Losail 12-Apr USA, Austin Circuit of the Americas 19-Apr Argentina Termas 03-May Spain Jerez 17-May France Le Mans 31-May Italy Mugello 14-Jun Catalunya Catalunya 27-Jun Netherlands Assen 12-Jul Germany Sachsenring 09-Aug USA,Indianapolis Indianapolis 16-Aug Czech Republic Brno 30-Aug Great Britain Silverstone 13-Sep San Marino Misano 27-Sep Aragon MotorLand 11-Oct Japan Motegi 18-Oct Australia Phillip Island 25-Oct Malaysia Sepang 08-Nov Valencia Valencia The Big Players: Factory Yamaha Team Same as last year.  Valentino Rossi Needs no description. Multi-world champion who left Yamaha in 2011 to move to Ducati. Success at Ducati did not come as they expected, and he only managed a few podiums. Ducati couldn't convince him to stay on this year, so he'd back with a 2 year Yamaha contract. I think it's great. I'm not sure he's has another championship in him, as the competition is tough, but I'm sure we'll see a few race wins from him this year.  Jorge Lorenzo Lorenzo is the reigning World Champion and a 2 time champ now, the first Spaniard to do so if I remember correctly. Yamaha choosing him over Rossi was a big reason Rossi left originally, so this year should be good. In the two years Rossi has been gone, Lorenzo has only gotten better. His form last year was fantastic and his championship run was impressive. He never finished a race below 2nd place, and only managed to crash out of 2 races (only 1 being his fault imo). He's on form and is a contender for the Championship again this year. Tech 3 Yamaha  Pol Espargaro too the fight to Marquez in moto2 2012 but couldn't top him. He won it last year in a hard season long fight with Scott Redding, coming from a rough few races early on to take it. He's no slouch and if he can be fast these first 2 years I'd peg him to replace Rossi/Lorenzo in the factory team.  Bradley Smith....well not much to say. He got this ride as part of a contract he signed a few years back, where he'd ride Tech3's Moto2 bike for a few years, then would get a go on the big bike. He did alright in moto2 considering that his bike had very little development compared to others, but he didn't really set the world afire. Frankly I'm not expecting much from him in motoGP but I like eating my words. It's the second year for both of these riders and Tech 3 so they better show up. A good performance from Pol may let him keep his seat but Smith is going to have to make some impressions this year. Repsol Honda No change, except MM now being  Dani Pedrosa Dani had a slow but steady start to last season, often times losing out to Stoner and Lorenzo. With Stoner's injury, Pedrosa got a kick in the rear end and seemed to realize he had a shot at the championship. He put in a hard fight and won most of the races the 2nd half of the year, but still just missed out to Lorenzo. I think he'll be a contender from the get-go this year, as it'll be one of his best chances for a championship. For him, he'll hope that Ducati stays slow, Lorenzo and Rossi beat each other up, and Marquez takes some take to get adjusted, leaving him in a great place to win his first Championship.  Marc Marquez Reigning Moto2 champion and newcomer Marquez probably has the biggest hype surrounding him, and rightly so. He's got a race talent and speed that hasn't been matched quite yet, although others have taken the fight to him. He's also a bit reckless and has done some bonehead moves, crashing into people in stupid situations. Still, I think people will remember him more for racing from the back of the grid to get on the podium multiple times in the lower classes. Portugal 2010 in the 125 class is a good race to look up. Australia 2011 is another, as is Valencia last year. His dumbass moves and recklessness piss me off but you can't argue with his results, he'll be winning races for sure. 2013 showed he learned from his mistakes and matured, and didn't make the same kind of silly accidents from Moto2. Obviously he took the championship, very impressive and I think he'll be dominating for the next few years. Marquez took 2014 by storm by winning the first 8 races or something. It was the MM show. Satellite Hondas Here's where the shakeups start!  Cal Crutchlow Fast on Tech 3, achieving podiums, but always being a step behind his teammate Dovi. He moved to the factory Duc team last year for that sweet sweet paycheck and, well, did not perform. The duc was poo poo but Cal never really got a swing of it. He did swing his way into Bradl's old spot tho, and I'm excited to see what he can do on the honda. Besides Dovisioso I believe the Crutchlow is the only rider to ride all three big manufacturers (ed. Forgot one obvious one, duh....Rossi). In my heart I think he'll always be a podium threat but, ultimately, an also ran. He's a funny guy tho and I love his presence in the paddock so I hope he stays around. He could be the Brit Colin Edwards.  Jack Miller! If you follow Moto3 this guy needs no introduction. He showed up last year the first time he was given competitive machinery, and took the championship down to the last race despite being on a slower bike than his competitors. His racing and his personality caught the attention of the guys in the GP class and he will be the first rider to skip Moto2 to go directly to GP. He'll be riding on one of the 'satellite' bikes to get his feet wet in the category, but everyone will be watching him closely. Factory Ducati This is where eyes will be as well. Ducati just unveiled a very different motorcycle so I think everyone is eager to see it on track. A summary is here: https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/02/17/analyzing_the_ducati_desmosedici_gp15_sm.html  Dovi started with Factory Honda but only managed a wet win, playing second fiddle to Pedrosa. He spent some time at Tech 3 where he fought(and beat) Crutchlow over the season. Now he's been with Ducati a few years and seems to be happy, especially since the bike has been improving. Now, part of that was some rules consolations that Ducati was given, but still, progress. I would love to see him take it to a win.  Iannone was the crazy guy in moto2. Either 20 seconds in the lead of a spec class, or 20th place. Ducati took him on the satellite team hoping his style could suit the bike. He's had flashes of brilliance but we still haven't seen the same Iannone as in moto2. NEW FACTORY TEAMS! WOOOOOOOOO The Big News from this year is the return of a couple factory teams, Aprilia and Suzuki have both returned. Aprilia picked up Alvaro Bautista and hired Marco Melandri for a return to GP.  Alvaro Bautista Bautista was at the top in the lower classes but has never really made his way out of the mid pack in GP. Compared to his competition, he's a good choice for Aprilia, but it's going to be a rough season for them. Marco Melandri If you don't remember, he did things like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8KtdsM7nY4 He did well in the lower classes and won the 250 championship IIRC, but never managed more than a few wins in GP. He went off the WSBK where he nearly took BMW to the championship before a devastating last few races. He's aggressive as hell and a good rider, good choice for the first season back for priller. Suzuki is back after a few year break and it's nice to see the blue bikes again. They took a slightly different approach to their riders, signing Maverick Vinales and Aleix Espargaro.  Aleix bounced around from GP to Moto2 then back up to GP, and since he's been back he's been the consistently fastest rider on the Open class bikes. I'm glad he was able to score a Factory seat, even though they'll be playing catch-up from the get-go. Maverick Vinales  Vinales showed up as a contender in moto3 for a few years before winning the championship in 2013. He went to moto2 and did well but ended up in 3rd or 4th. His performance was enough that he got the attention of Suzuki, so he's moving up despite not winning the championship. Another one that will be interesting to watch. Other than that, there's the Open bikes and sorry for them but I don't really care to write anything. They just fill out the grid. I guess I can list the teams at least: AB Motoracing Karel Abraham Avintia Racing Hector Barbera (...he's still around?????) Mike Di Meglio Drive M7 Aspar Eugene Laverty Nicky Hayden (Sorry Nicky, the 2006 WC deserves better) Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS Scott Redding (Another one to watch, tbh) Forward Racing Stefan Bradl Loris Baz Octo IodaRacing Team Alex De Angelis He retired this year but I'm keeping this bit in here cause Colin is the poo poo. Except Colin Edwards  He gets a mention cause he's awesome. Here's some examples: Frank talk on stage at silverstone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdqTMPwjqR8 Getting pissed at the race organizers for not throwing oil flags http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_08p-414uGY Talking poo poo about his bike and settling rumors http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK9Yy8HCdyg Saving a huge slide then gesturing at the crowd “did you see that?” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37sl4YI-aYE the last time he passed lorenzo... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLM0YX5okdA Moto2 and Moto3 If you aren't watching these races, you should be. MotoGP is about seeing the best riders on the best bikes. Moto2 and 3 is about seeing who has the bigger balls, and the racing the last few years has been awesome. 2011 was a great year for moto2 and 2012 was even better. Pol Espargaro won in 2013 after a year long fight with Scott Redding that had some great racing. 2014 was disappointing to be honest. A lot of the talent had moved on and Tito Rabat walked away with the championship. Not to say it was undeserved, the dude puts in more testing and work than anyone else, but I'd be lying if I said I was watching the moto2 races at the end of the year. Moto3 had it's first year last year, and it was awesome. I think there may have been 1 boring race, with most of them coming down to the last few corners. On top of that, they were often 4 and 5 wide down the long straights early in the race when everyone was stuck together. Awesome. Seriously, make time to watch these if you can. Great racing and you get to see the rising stars. 2014 was probably the best year for Moto3. Many strong riders at the front on mostly equal machinery, bashing fairings and battling it out the entire race. There were many races with a group of 10 riders still together coming on the last few laps, and even groups of 5 or 6 together going into the last lap. For the biggest excitement and best 'racing' as most people would consider, Moto3 is it. Start any new people watching a Moto3 race from 2014 Holding space for WSBK, BSB, AMA, Irish Road Racing, or anything else anyone would like to contribute. I can't say much about any of them except I like watching WSBK when I can. The championship this year provided a lot of close racing and really came down to the wire at the last race. Unfortunately I don't follow WSBK like I do the motogp classes so I can't really comment much on them. Someone else write up a short bit? Mostly I just assume we'll discuss these in the thread as they happen. Thank you captainOrbital WSBK pre:DATE Country Circuit 22-Feb Australia Phillip Island Grand Prix Circuit 22-Mar Thailand Chang International Circuit 12-Apr Spain Motorland Aragón 19-Apr Netherlands TT Circuit Assen 10-May Italy Autodromo Enzo e Dino Ferrari 24-May United Kingdom Donington Park 7-Jun Portugal Autódromo Internacional do Algarve 21-Jun Italy Misano World Circuit Marco Simoncelli 19-Jul United States Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca 02-Aug Malaysia Sepang International Circuit 20-Sep Spain Circuito de Jerez 04-Oct France Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours 18-Oct Qatar Losail International Circuit Pata Honda World Superbike Team Honda CBR1000RR SP Sylvain Guintoli Michael van der Mark MV Agusta Reparto Corse MV Agusta 1000 F4 Leon Camier Aruba.it Racing–Ducati SBK Team Ducati Panigale R 7 Chaz Davies Troy Bayliss (replacing the injured...) Davide Giugliano BMW Team Tóth BMW S1000RR Imre Tóth Hungary Gábor Rizmayer Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R Matthew Walters David Salom Voltcom Crescent Suzuki Suzuki GSX-R1000 Randy de Puniet Alex Lowes Althea Racing Ducati Panigale R 15 Matteo Baiocco Spain Nicolás Terol BMW Motorrad Italia SBK Team BMW S1000RR Sylvain Barrier Grillini SBK Team Kawasaki ZX-10R Christophe Ponsson Santiago Barragán JR Racing Team BMW S1000RR Toni Elías Ayrton Badovini Barni Racing Team Ducati Panigale R Leandro Mercado Team Go Eleven Kawasaki ZX-10R Román Ramos Team Hero EBR EBR 1190RX Niccolò Canepa Larry Pegram Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki ZX-10R Jonathan Rea Tom Sykes Race Center – Demolition Plus Kawasaki ZX-10R Jed Metcher Aprilia Racing Team – Red Devils Aprilia RSV4 RF Jordi Torres Leon Haslam Racing Discussion and Analysis Aside from the earlier mentioned http://motomatters.com if you have a few hours a week to kill during the season, http://www.motopodcast.com/ is a must. MotoPod is a podcast that covers WSBK and MotoGP mainly, but they talk about other racing as well. They're just regular guys who love racing and it's fun to listen to them banter about the races. On top of that, they get some great interviews with riders and journos and other people around the paddock. The podcasts range from and hour and a half to over 3 hours sometimes, I love having it on while working on my bike or whatever. http://superbikeplanet.com/newind.htm/ is good news too. Any other suggestions for good racing coverage are welcome. I'm not going to list the mainstream journals because most people know them and imo they're mainly just PR machines. Now, for twitter feeds. I really got into this last year because you have a TON of racing guys on twitter. One thing again SPOILERS if you follow any of them. Normally they are tweeting live time too, so avoid twitter like it's the ebola virus until you have watched the race, then go talk a bunch of poo poo on twitter because that's a good time. Also, following twitter really shows you how little the mainstream news publications actually work. Last year I remember reading articles on autosport or crash and the only background information the author was working off of was a tweet. Cut out that middleman and follow the riders. The journos will even respond to you. I've tweeted Toby and Spaulders a few times and gotten responses. They answer questions on their broadcasts too, which is cool as hell. Looking thru this list, it's pretty old and missing some big names. I added a few but if anyone notices any others that should be added, speak up. https://twitter.com/eugenelaverty WSBK Racer, Aprilia factory team. https://twitter.com/BenSpies11 https://twitter.com/NickyHayden69 https://twitter.com/MotoGP https://twitter.com/jonathanrea https://twitter.com/HondaWorldSBK https://twitter.com/TwitGP Kind of a humorous look at MotoGP, they're pretty fun. https://twitter.com/texastornado5 https://twitter.com/motomatters https://www.motomatters.com twitter. https://twitter.com/realleonhaslam https://twitter.com/martinheath MotoGP and WSBK photographer. https://twitter.com/hiroshiaoyama https://twitter.com/Alex__Briggs Alex is one of Rossi's mechanics. Super cool guy and normally does picture contests as well as provides great information and also is really good at replying to questions. Also if I ever get to Austrailia I'm totally buying him and his wife Ellen dinner(I've confirmed this with Ellen who is just as cool as Alex is). https://twitter.com/birtymotogp motoGP writer. https://twitter.com/chrissyteigen Not motorcycle related at all, but a foody, super hot, and super funny. https://twitter.com/TobyMoody MotoGP announcer. https://twitter.com/DennisNoyes MotoGP writer https://twitter.com/calcrutchlow https://twitter.com/Meligirl13 CHICK ON A BIKE!! AMA Daytona Superbike racer. https://twitter.com/HRC_MotoGP https://twitter.com/MarcoMelandri33 https://twitter.com/TroyBaylisstic https://twitter.com/chazdavies https://twitter.com/marcpotter MCN news guy. https://twitter.com/MotoGPJules MotoGP commenter. https://twitter.com/leoncamier https://twitter.com/superbikeplanet https://twitter.com/CarlosCheca7 https://twitter.com/NickSannen Haydens bus driver. Won't get a lot of news but does post some cool photo's on the road. https://twitter.com/ScottJonesPhoto Official MotoMatters photographer https://twitter.com/JHopper21 https://twitter.com/steveblackburn1 Cal Cruthlow's mechanic. https://twitter.com/charliehiscott TV Producer for MotoGP WSBK and BSB https://twitter.com/michaelguyMCN MCN guy. https://twitter.com/gavinemmett MotoGP commentator. https://twitter.com/Asphalt_Rubber https://twitter.com/MCNnews https://twitter.com/AndreaDovizioso https://twitter.com/ValeYellow46 Yes, it really is Rossi. https://twitter.com/OfficialHAOYAMA https://twitter.com/YamahaMotoGP https://twitter.com/marcmarquez93 https://twitter.com/PolEspargaro https://twitter.com/AleixEspargaro There we go. Anyone with anything constructive to add, speak up and we'll put it in. Anyone with any pedantic complaints about grammar or spelling can catch a boat to fuckoffity land Cheers! nsaP fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Feb 20, 2015 |
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Here's some testing pics I posted in the Pic/Video thread: Testing happening now at Sepang:        
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Those rider descriptions are so 2013
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Read the first line then the final line, then get on the boat!
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Nice; thank you. It's good to get some background on some of these Motorcycle Jerks. And while I'm here: WSBK pre:DATE Country Circuit 22-Feb Australia Phillip Island Grand Prix Circuit 22-Mar Thailand Chang International Circuit 12-Apr Spain Motorland Aragón 19-Apr Netherlands TT Circuit Assen 10-May Italy Autodromo Enzo e Dino Ferrari 24-May United Kingdom Donington Park 7-Jun Portugal Autódromo Internacional do Algarve 21-Jun Italy Misano World Circuit Marco Simoncelli 19-Jul United States Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca 02-Aug Malaysia Sepang International Circuit 20-Sep Spain Circuito de Jerez 04-Oct France Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours 18-Oct Qatar Losail International Circuit Pata Honda World Superbike Team Honda CBR1000RR SP Sylvain Guintoli Michael van der Mark MV Agusta Reparto Corse MV Agusta 1000 F4 Leon Camier Aruba.it Racing–Ducati SBK Team Ducati Panigale R 7 Chaz Davies Troy Bayliss (replacing the injured...) Davide Giugliano BMW Team Tóth BMW S1000RR Imre Tóth Hungary Gábor Rizmayer Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R Matthew Walters David Salom Voltcom Crescent Suzuki Suzuki GSX-R1000 Randy de Puniet Alex Lowes Althea Racing Ducati Panigale R 15 Matteo Baiocco Spain Nicolás Terol BMW Motorrad Italia SBK Team BMW S1000RR Sylvain Barrier Grillini SBK Team Kawasaki ZX-10R Christophe Ponsson Santiago Barragán JR Racing Team BMW S1000RR Toni Elías Ayrton Badovini Barni Racing Team Ducati Panigale R Leandro Mercado Team Go Eleven Kawasaki ZX-10R Román Ramos Team Hero EBR EBR 1190RX Niccolò Canepa Larry Pegram Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki ZX-10R Jonathan Rea Tom Sykes Race Center – Demolition Plus Kawasaki ZX-10R Jed Metcher Aprilia Racing Team – Red Devils Aprilia RSV4 RF Jordi Torres Leon Haslam captainOrbital fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Feb 20, 2015 |
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Added. Who is watching WSBK at PI this weekend? I only half follow SBK but I would be anyway just because it's the start of the season and BIEKS! But after hearing that Bayliss will be on a replacement rider, I think everyone is doubly excited for it. The Ducati hasn't been the best bike but Phillip Island has a way of leveling out the bikes and letting brave riders show thru. If he won the first two races of the year then said 'Later" it'd be hilarious. Also, anyone know anything about Guintoli's move to the Pata Honda team? He's the reigning champ obv. but as Aprilia are focusing on MotoGP that door closed. I don't think anyone would be insulted by suggesting that the Honda hasn't been up to par, or even close, to the top bikes the last few years, so it seems like an odd move for the reigning champion. No Kawasakis available? Superpole is tonight (or early tomorrow depending on your time zone). You can go here http://www.worldsbk.com/ and on the right see the times at PI, as well as you time zone.  (The last American Champion is in the blurry background of that pic, tho he won't be champion for another couple of seconds) nsaP fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Feb 20, 2015 |
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Yeah, I'm hoping to ride my bike up to Elkhart lake for Motoamerica and also down to Indy for MotoGP. Also I found this list of moto broadcasts with channels for God's Chosen. and Motoamerica pre:DATE Circuit City Apr 10-12 Circuit of the Americas Austin, Texas (MotoGP Support) Apr 17-19 Road Atlanta Braselton, Georgia May 15-17 Virginia International V.I. Raceway (VIR) May 29-31 Road America Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin Jun 12-14 Barber Motorsports Park Birmingham, Alabama Jun 26-28 Miller Motorsports Park Tooele, Utah July 17-19 Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca Monterey, California Aug 7-9 Indianapolis Motor Speedway Indianapolis, Indiana (MotoGP Support) Sep 11-13 New Jersey Motorsports Park Millville, New Jersey Open, many mods, slicks Monster Graves Yamaha Yamaha R1M Cameron Beaubier (FR) Josh Hayes (US) Team21Motosport Elena Myers Yoshimura Suzuki Roger Hayden (US prob) Meen Motorsports Josh Herrin SUPERSPORT Middleweight, many mods, slicks Team Hammer, Inc. M4 Suzuki GSX-R600 David Anthony (AUS*) SUPERSTOCK 1000 Open, limited mods, slicks Aprilia HSBK Racing Aprilia RSV4 Factory APRC ABS Dustin Dominguez (MEX) Devon McDonough (Portland, OR) SUPERSTOCK 600 Middleweight, limited mods, DOTs KTM RC 390 CUP Entry spec class, no mods, DOTs * Men at Work, not Mozart captainOrbital fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Feb 20, 2015 |
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I looked at the date for Indy and was like "wait a second..." then saw they're running support for motoGP. Hell yeah, finally an interesting support class. There were E bikes that were kinda cool but the xr1200s were....eh. Sounded nice.
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captainOrbital posted:Yeah, I'm hoping to ride my bike up to Elkhart lake for Motoamerica and also down to Indy for MotoGP. Cameron Beaubier is going to be on the Monster Yamaha team that is running the new R1M and is almost certainly being fast tracked to the factory Yamaha WSBK team that will be back next year. I'm actually kind of interested in watching motoamerica hopefully it will be a bit more exciting than the few AMA races I watched which always seem to be runaways.
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Well you've inspired me to look up some information; thanks for nothing MotoAmerica website and also Obama.
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As poo poo as their website is they at least have a TV deal with CBS so they are lightyears ahead of the shitshow that was last years AMA superbike. There's some good articles about it at Asphalt and Rubber, including this one about how they are unifiying rules with the various world championships to give American riders an actual defined path to the world levels again.
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My boy Jay-Rae takes SuperPole in WSBK at the island. gently caress yes. So glad he's off that POS Honda and on a proper bike. I hope he cleans up this year.
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It seems like there's a lot more red flags and interruptions in motorbike racing (coming here from Formula 1 and V8 Supercars, etc). I guess that makes sense, as they're a lot more vulnerable on 2 wheels.
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I'd like to add something to this thread on AMA pro road racing but I'm not enthusiastic enough to make a nice post. Summary: AMA pro road racing has for the previous few years been effectively owned by NASCAR and as NASCAR does with everything else in the world it completely ruined and nearly wiped off the map AMA road racing. Ruined it so badly it was not broadcast anywhere except some 2nd tier stock car racing website last year. And some races were not covered at all anywhere, like Laguna Seca. But then WAYNE loving RAINEY bought it and now it's gonna be the best thing ever. gently caress NASCAR GO WAYNE  And this year there's a GIRL in it who somehow owns her own Superbike team and is racing in it herself despite being age 11 or something. Here she is with Suzuki's best work:  And now it's back on CBS Sports this year. Which blew 2 years ago but hey it's better than fanschoice.tv.
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Is that Elena Myers of Team21? I saw something about her on the MotoAmerica site. I tried to pad out my list of teams and riders but if anyone has more info that would be great. IDK why their site is so light on info.
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I'll add the AMA schedule and Rev's rant to the OP. I missed superpole cause I was playing poker but I'm watching the races tonight for sure! Here's the grid for sbk https://motomatters.com/results/2015/02/21/2015_phillip_island_world_superbike_supe.html  I totally missed Nico Terol going to SBK but I guess it makes sense given he had a absolutely terrible year last year. Really weird. Spiffness posted:My boy Jay-Rae takes SuperPole in WSBK at the island. gently caress yes. No doubt. I dunno what that honda loyalty got him besides a lot of tough years and a wild card on Stoner's honda after he busted his ankles up in Indy. Rea should be a machine this year. Race 1 is 8:00 EST nsaP fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Feb 21, 2015 |
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Well WSS was kinda weak except I was happy to see Gino Rea get on the podium. He always looked like he has potential but never made it into a decent team. Both of the SBK races were great, find them if you missed them. PI is a great track.
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clutchpuck posted:http://www.crash.net/wsbk/news/214723/1/canepa-takes-ebr-to-top-ten-in-testing.html Signs point to both. http://www.worldsbk.com/en/news/2015/Injured+Canepa+sure+about+Thailand+return
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Holy balls, those races were both fantastic. The last couple laps of each especially were great. Too bad about Torres in the second race, it looked like it may have been a 4-way fight for a minute.
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Both superbike races were indeed great. In MotoGP testing news Dovi ran over the inside curbs without trying during his outlap with the GP15 and "looks like he won the lottery" so it looks like the Ducati's years long battle with understeer has finally been won.
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David Emmett has a great write up, as usual. https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/02/23/2015_motogp_sepang_2_day_round_up_hard_w.html quote:That was a shame, as they had an awful lot to do. Ducati had brought the GP15 for its on-track debut, Yamaha had its fully seamless gearbox, Suzuki had unleashed a few more horses from its GSX-RR, and Aprilia had a stack of chassis and electronics solutions to test on track. With on a couple of hours of productive track time, much was left untested. Whole article at the link.
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The times all look pretty promising for a good season. Good on Ducati for finally getting the right staff in place to produce a good bike.
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The only way Crutchlow is winning a race is if he's riding bitch on HRC's 2-up bike with Marquez piloting. Like the guy, but WHERE he is isn't what holds him back. He's the next Colin Edwards. Extremely personable, but getting slower. He'll move down the chain as he gets older until he ends up (hopefully) in the commentators box full time. The Andrea's are beasts, and both of them deserve this ride and a competitive bike. We need more aliens. Cal's not an alien.
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I don't disagree but at least Edwards got a factory bike
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Crutchlow is the fastest dude from the UK so he gets a decent ride.
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Christy Lee and Colin Edwards confirmed as commentators for 2015 MotoAmerica Series.
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Hell yeah. Hopefully he or Spies can sneak in the BT box for Indy and Austin Motomatters has a good roundup on the last day of testing.
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Christy as commentator or pit reporter? Good to hear Colin, hope he's replacing one of the old commentators. Both of them sucked.
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I've only seen it on Twitter so far but based off the photo they ran I'm thinking pit reporter for Christy.
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Feb 26, 2015 20:26
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Jonathan Green is in the booth with Colin Edwards. Lee is in the pits. This is gonna be good.
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Bayliss confirmed for another round, probably three more in total.
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What's the point of uneven firing orders on I4s? Wouldn't equal intervals be smoother and conceivably more powerful and predictable?
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Mar 4, 2015 22:06
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The idea is that the power pulses to the tire, the uneven firing order allows more time for the tire to rotate before the power pulse hits the tire, vs. a traditional firing order where it fires every 180 degrees of crank rotation. Less wear to the tire, and supposedly easier to modulate. Unsure if it makes a different at normal human riding speeds and feel, haven't ridden a modern R1. But given they're still using it on the GP bike so there's gotta be some reasonable benefits there.
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That was the idea but it was something that was just spitballed by some engineers after the fact to justify why it works. Yamaha released a big paper about it in like 2010 and what is happening is the crankshaft spins so fast in the racing bikes that it is applying a lot of power to the wheels just from inertia making the bike harder to control, particularly while leaned over. There is a decent explanation in the R1 video from the last gen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEXUrO5wYcE&t=139s
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Mar 5, 2015 18:26
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http://www.motoamerica.com/motoamerica-needs-you MotoAmerica asking for trackside/paddock volunteers. Anyone done this before? I'm thinking of volunteering for RoadAmerica in Elkhart Lake, WI. Any of these sound promising?
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BitcoinRockefeller posted:That was the idea but it was something that was just spitballed by some engineers after the fact to justify why it works. Yamaha released a big paper about it in like 2010 and what is happening is the crankshaft spins so fast in the racing bikes that it is applying a lot of power to the wheels just from inertia making the bike harder to control, particularly while leaned over. There is a decent explanation in the R1 video from the last gen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEXUrO5wYcE&t=139s That video seems a little questionable. First of all, the existence of very controllable, 175hp twins puts the idea that inertial torque is a factor in controlability out the loving window. The other thing is, the inertial torque is going to change consistently with the rate of change of the RPM, and as a result, is simply a part of the engine characteristics at higher or lower RPMs that we normalize to naturally. The difference between how responsive the throttle feels at low vs high RPM. But to get into the weeds a bit on it, at 8k RPM, you have 4000 combustion events per minute per cylinder, which makes 66 events per second per cylinder. That's 264 firing events across the 4 cylinders in a single second. The difference in "inertial torque" is going to occur between those firing events, so you're talking about the rider detecting a rate of change on crank speed in 1/500th of a second increments. But that also assumes that the engine is directly connected to the road. In this case, that change in crank inertia has to go through the complete drivetrain, so you're looking at not looking at the performance of the engine but rather looking at outcome after it goes through the primary drive, clutch basket, clutch pack, transmission input shaft, transmission output shaft, countershaft sprocket, chain, sprocket, cush drive , wheel, and tire, before you get the into feedback that the rider can actually feel. The cush drive and deflection on the tire is easily going to normalize that sort of change, considering that it's already handling a much more significant combustion event that is actually driving the wheel - I highly doubt the dropoff time between the firing events (because the power stroke and firing event/gas expansion drives the piston over a chunk of the crank rotation anyways...) is even really detectable. I really don't think anyone is going to be capable of feeling the difference between smooth, consistent acceleration like you'd get out of an electric engine and something that's accelerating a system with a pile of inertia in it in 264 tiny push increments. And the idea with the "crank inertia" thing they put forward is that people aren't just detecting the obvious firing pulse, they're detecting the dropoffs between those firing events taking place every 1/264th of a second, which, on it's face, seems like it's an order of magnitude subtler than a human could detect. Could someone legitimately detect the difference between something that's pushing you with the same total amount of force in 26 tiny increments per second and 100 tiny increments per second, let alone 264? I honestly have never really bought the crossplane being that much better, but I haven't ridden one, so sort of trusted the marketing a bit. But on additional thought, I bet the more realistic reason they have it is it solves some motogp level problem that is irrelevant in production designs and it's just marketing and not wanting to waste R&D that gets it in their normal bikes. It's an interesting thing to think about, though! Z3n fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Mar 5, 2015 |
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This guy has a better write up on it, gently caress me if I can find the Yamaha presentation on it, it might not be on the internet. I do know Neil Spalding and Julian Ryder attended the presentation on it and sperged out heavily in a practice session about how more of a break between power strokes gives the tire time to rest is a theory completely rejected by Yamaha and Bridgestone. I get all my motorcycle knowledge from fat britains.
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BitcoinRockefeller posted:This guy has a better write up on it, gently caress me if I can find the Yamaha presentation on it, it might not be on the internet. I do know Neil Spalding and Julian Ryder attended the presentation on it and sperged out heavily in a practice session about how more of a break between power strokes gives the tire time to rest is a theory completely rejected by Yamaha and Bridgestone. I get all my motorcycle knowledge from fat britains. They seem to know their poo poo, at least. I mean, maybe it makes a difference, maybe it doesn't, that's one of the things that's still super awesome about bikes. There's a pile of poo poo where we're just like "meh, no idea, ride the bike". That whole thing about "twins coming off the corner faster" has been pretty thoroughly disproven though - I think PB did a thing where they found an S1000RR came off a corner harder than a 1198, IIRC.
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Andrea Iannone is getting a dozen poles this year with the soft tire book it.
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