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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000
Do you really want him to lead from the front and win every time with no passes like Lorenzo?

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Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

Do you really want him to lead from the front and win every time with no passes like Lorenzo?

No, but if someone has to do it I'd prefer it to be basically anyone besides Lorenzo, and Rossi looks like the only one with the same kind of pace nowadays.

I'd love Dovi to win a race or ten. Just cause he doesn't seem to have an indoor voice :allears:

n8r
Jul 3, 2003

I helped Lowtax become a cyborg and all I got was this lousy avatar

nsaP posted:

Rossi has qualified in the mid pack for 19 years now so I wouldn't hold my breath.

Not true. Rossi used to be a strong qualifier in the old (better) format.

Destrad0
Nov 26, 2005
<img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-destrad0.gif"><br>Stealing a cool avatar one piece at a time.
I know most people in this thread will know, but for the people new to following MotoGP. This week's race in Assen is run on a Saturday, not the usual Sunday.

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
Historically the local clergy in the area was worried about the noise ( or maybe the attendance?) so it was held on saturday. They've kept it since, I like it.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

nsaP posted:

Historically the local clergy in the area was worried about the noise ( or maybe the attendance?) so it was held on saturday. They've kept it since, I like it.

Didn't know that, very cool if true!

Angryboot
Oct 23, 2005

Grimey Drawer
Whatever the reason was it's done. Starting 2016 the Assen round will race on Sundays.

FlerpNerpin
Apr 17, 2006


Rossi on pole and roboboy starting from 8th.

Dare I dream of a race I can enjoy?!

echomadman
Aug 24, 2004

Nap Ghost

nsaP posted:

Rossi has qualified in the mid pack for 19 years now so I wouldn't hold my breath.

Shows what you know

Destrad0 posted:

I know most people in this thread will know, but for the people new to following MotoGP. This week's race in Assen is run on a Saturday, not the usual Sunday.

It'll be on Sunday from next year, which is annoying as it was nice to go over there, watch the race on Saturday and have the Sunday for travelling home.

FlerpNerpin
Apr 17, 2006


Hot drat! A good race!

Feel like I've been waiting all year for a good race.

I could watch Marq and Vale duke it out for hours and hours.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

If rossi had fallen in the gravel (lightning reflexes to get the bike upright and wheelie it through btw) would MM have been penalised/investigated?

hayden.
Sep 11, 2007

here's a goat on a pig or something
Investigated, yes (very briefly), penalized, doubt it. Pretty clearly a racing incident, though irresponsible in my opinion because there's no way MM wouldn't have run it wide going into the corner like that. He knew he was going to hit Rossi but it's considered an acceptable way to pass from what I've seen. Very similar thing happened with JL in Jerez 2013 - last corner of the race, MM ran it hot into the corner and hit JL, and actually knocked JL off. MM wasn't penalized for it.

hayden. fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Jun 27, 2015

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

It seemed like he didn't realistically have a chance of making a successful pass anyway. He had to go so deep to try and make the pass, it would've made it impossible for him to make the corner without running over the inside of the corner and rossi being forced off. I can't really see it as anything other than a way of trying to make Rossi crash on purpose; I can't understand how anyone could pretend it was a legitimate move. It hardly matters now but if rossi had fallen there would've been riots in the stands.

BitcoinRockefeller
May 11, 2003

God gave me my money.

Hair Elf
That's twice this year that Marquez has hit Rossi and it hasn't worked out for him . Overshadowed by the last corner incident though is Rossi not getting his repass done on the first try then cruising around the outside, absolutely beautiful.

Shimrod
Apr 15, 2007

race tires on road are a great idea, ask me!

BitcoinRockefeller posted:

That's twice this year that Marquez has hit Rossi and it hasn't worked out for him . Overshadowed by the last corner incident though is Rossi not getting his repass done on the first try then cruising around the outside, absolutely beautiful.

yeah, I was waiting for him to lose the front or something when he was trying to put it back around the outside, that was a great move.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

BitcoinRockefeller posted:

That's twice this year that Marquez has hit Rossi and it hasn't worked out for him . Overshadowed by the last corner incident though is Rossi not getting his repass done on the first try then cruising around the outside, absolutely beautiful.

I got the impression that initial attack was like a dry run so as to get it perfect the second time cause he's :corsair:

Holding the outside line was definitely move of the race; how the gently caress did he not lose the front. Remarkable stuff.

Skreemer
Jan 28, 2006
I like blue.
If you go back and watch Rossi's riding over the years you'll see it looks like that's how he's been able to be so good for so long. He'll follow for a lap, try a move or two on the next lap, and on the third or fourth lap he'll execute a pass.

After the pass on Marquez, Rossi poured on the coals and opened up the gap a touch. Marquez had only the one chance and it was a desperation move. The bike was moving around a lot under Marquez even before the contact with Rossi.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Skreemer posted:

After the pass on Marquez, Rossi poured on the coals and opened up the gap a touch. Marquez had only the one chance and it was a desperation move. The bike was moving around a lot under Marquez even before the contact with Rossi.

Yeah. I reckon that one chance wasn't really a chance at all. In the various interviews and poo poo he always avoids answering when he's asked where he thought Rossi was meant to end up after he attempted the pass, touching or no touching, and it's pretty clear he basically just expected him to crash. He even took it up with race direction and they told him they wouldn't penalise Rossi for cutting.

hayden.
Sep 11, 2007

here's a goat on a pig or something

Slavvy posted:

It seemed like he didn't realistically have a chance of making a successful pass anyway. He had to go so deep to try and make the pass, it would've made it impossible for him to make the corner without running over the inside of the corner and rossi being forced off. I can't really see it as anything other than a way of trying to make Rossi crash on purpose; I can't understand how anyone could pretend it was a legitimate move. It hardly matters now but if rossi had fallen there would've been riots in the stands.

This is total armchair speculation and I'm not especially well versed in motorcycle racing, but it's possible the idea was to force Rossi off the race line or to force him to brake or something similar. It's possible to get in his way without it being an attempt to make him crash.

Skreemer
Jan 28, 2006
I like blue.

hayden. posted:

This is total armchair speculation and I'm not especially well versed in motorcycle racing, but it's possible the idea was to force Rossi off the race line or to force him to brake or something similar. It's possible to get in his way without it being an attempt to make him crash.

No question there, they were both aiming for the same section of track while on different racing lines. I thought armchair speculation was one of the reasons for the internet? Either way Marquez expected Rossi to cut the throttle/brake and let him through, and there was no way Rossi was going to do that. Rossi is known to make the "hard pass" or move when needed, and If you watched Marquez in Moto2 you know the guy is going no stranger to radical entries/exits that set up a bump and run or crash. Rossi is just too experienced with that kind of racing for it to put him off the bike. The racing was exciting to watch and was a great show even before the last chicane. Pure speculation again but if Marquez had done the same move on Lorenzo there would be a lot more whining and crying about dangerous racing.

FlerpNerpin
Apr 17, 2006


Y'all shut up and read this:

https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/06/28/2015_assen_motogp_post_race_round_up_par.html

Motomatters, of course, has it covered.

Marq had a legitimate lunge for a final pass attempt. Rossi was correct that Marq never actually passed him (got as far as his radiator), SO... it was Rossi's corner. Rossi cut the corner; so did Marq. No positions changed, thus none to give back. Both riders were in the right, racing incident- hallelujah we have something to talk about after 4 loving Lorenzo races.

monsterzero
May 12, 2002
-=TOPGUN=-
Boys who love airplanes :respek: Boys who love boys
Lipstick Apathy
Bradley Smith is a Rossi Truther. :spain:

Quite A Tool
Jul 4, 2004

The answer is... 42
Not the most exciting race but still nice to see Rossi in the points lead. Let's hope it makes for a killer second half of the calendar.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Lorenzo's overtake at the start was pretty remarkable; he must be kicking himself now. Had some nail biting moments in the first half too.

hayden.
Sep 11, 2007

here's a goat on a pig or something
Good race, maybe the BT coverage missed it but very little (I think none, actually) interaction between Rossi and MM. MM still a little sore I think.

NeuralSpark
Apr 16, 2004

Since the California Riders thread got archived, I'll ask here - any of the CA goons headed to WSBK at Laguna Seca this weekend? I'll be arriving Saturday, camping, and doing my best to miss the action Sunday by trying to take interesting pictures of it all.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
I'll be there on Sunday for a few hours to get my head scanned.

FlerpNerpin
Apr 17, 2006


Z3n posted:

I'll be there on Sunday for a few hours to get my head scanned.

"We've found a large Orange mass growing on the part of your brain that generates euphoria from wheelies- recommend 1290cc's of SuperDuke"

Digital_Jesus
Feb 10, 2011

Bought my tickets to Indy GP. Who else is goin?

NeuralSpark
Apr 16, 2004

I'll be there as well. Some of the folks attending with me bailed just yesterday. Whee!

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
http://www.montereycountyweekly.com...351bb5db43.html

Sad and lovely :(

No idea what happened there, sounds like the worst type of racing incident. We were out at T5-T6 so didn't see anything :(

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
Jesus christ. That has to be the worse moto racing accident I can think of, I'm guessing they both got run over by the pack... I watched the SBK races live streaming but they didn't show the support classes. I hope moto america doesn't take a hit on this.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
There were 5-6 bikes down - only takes one bad hit, really, and the launch is the worst time, just nowhere to go :(

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
Well, that was unexpected to come home to see. Wtf.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Wow, holy gently caress! Two deaths in one crash outside of irish road racing is just insane.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/two-riders-killed-in-motoamerica-event-at-mazda-raceway-laguna-seca/

Day Man
Jul 30, 2007

Champion of the Sun!

Master of karate and friendship...
for everyone!


Wow, that's terrible

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

That's awful. :(

We're probably going to see a moment of silence for them at the next GP event.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Goddammit that sucks. Poor families :(

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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000
Both Spanish guys apparently. I hope whoever named this thread is happy. Anyone seen a video of exactly what happened? The ones I saw didn't really show it, just the aftermath. It seemed to happen on the straight.

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