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Gyges posted:I thought she was missing through the whole movie, meaning she was one of the kidnappees who didn't agree with the plan. I got a bunch of issues with this movie already, but if it's as you suggest and Kingsman is implying that Iggy has scruples, that's a line that can't be un-crossed.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2015 07:37 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 07:51 |
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Ah, I see the thread has independently arrived at my highly regarded "anal gentleman" theory,
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# ¿ Mar 3, 2015 14:07 |
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Jakcson posted:You really don't think it is scary when a black man attempts to genocide the entire human race? What if I told you that actually, it's cool and good
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2015 01:41 |
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88h88 posted:Yeah what the hell? It's like people are trying to put SERIOUS MEANING behind a pretty stupid and fun movie. I mean, this doesn't have much to do with the specific anal gentleman scene, but I wouldn't act like the two are mutually exclusive. This is a really fun movie that definitely glosses over some serious stuff because it's far from the focal point. But it absolutely wants to have SERIOUS MEANING at points. If it didn't, what the hell are the scenes about Eggsy's class-conscious angst and the lectures about the true meaning of being a gentleman there for? Those are there in the movie. Characters look directly into the camera and talk about social class. A lot. Which is why it's a little puzzling to me that the sociopolitical criticism in this thread has focused on gender (through Roxy's diminished role towards the end, and our favorite princess) and racial (through whether SLJ is portraying a "scary black man" stereotype") lenses, as opposed to a class lens. Like, I'm never gonna dismiss someone bringing one of those lenses into discussion of a film, but the class stuff is RIGHT THERE. And while the film gets like a million points for trying and I can't really stay mad at it precisely because of those good intentions, it fucks up haaaaard when it comes to class issues. Like, repeatedly. I suppose we did have that brief discussion on whether businessmen or celebrities are more recognizable avatars of wealth? Yeah, that was alright. This thread, like Kingsman itself, has its heart in the right place and at the end of the day I like it.
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2015 18:11 |