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He's gotten past the first major hurdle of not being in prison
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May 13, 2015 12:25
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boy undead posted:Well, it's a novel reason to be retiring, I'll give him that. Especially in the middle of a flag tilt. loving footballers, do they have to steal everything I wanted to be when I was 5?
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May 13, 2015 12:33
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Hey, I'm a filthy pom who is looking at getting into this sport. I know there's an AFL Live Pass but the Aussie version is a lot cheaper. Unfortunately it would mean using Hola to watch the streams/videos and I can't imagine that working well. Anyone got any experience doing this? Is it even a thing or should I just suck it up and get the UK version? Thanks for the OP by the way, really good for a newbie like me to help me learn the basics.
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May 13, 2015 13:24
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I doubt any of them are going to fly a spaceship or ride a dinosaur anytime soon so im safe
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An Actual Bear posted:Hey, I'm a filthy pom who is looking at getting into this sport. I know there's an AFL Live Pass but the Aussie version is a lot cheaper. Unfortunately it would mean using Hola to watch the streams/videos and I can't imagine that working well. Anyone got any experience doing this? Is it even a thing or should I just suck it up and get the UK version? The live pass available in Australia doesn't work on computers, only on tablet/mobile so might not even be a viable option for you. I use the watchAFL international service through a VPN and really like it, that being said it has very little in terms of extra content, it's mostly just the matches live/on demand.
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May 13, 2015 13:40
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hiddenmovement posted:I doubt any of them are going to fly a spaceship or ride a dinosaur anytime soon so im safe Someone is bound to take a speccy over Fletch at some point
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May 13, 2015 14:06
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MysticalMachineGun posted:
As a person who had one it will cause him issues. It's not the fracture, it's the pressure on the brain post fracture that fucks you. If he is particularly damaged he might end up posting here.
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May 13, 2015 14:32
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Spacman posted:As a person who had one it will cause him issues. It's not the fracture, it's the pressure on the brain post fracture that fucks you. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.
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May 13, 2015 14:35
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Gough Suppressant posted:The live pass available in Australia doesn't work on computers, only on tablet/mobile so might not even be a viable option for you. I use the watchAFL international service through a VPN and really like it, that being said it has very little in terms of extra content, it's mostly just the matches live/on demand.
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May 13, 2015 14:39
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If you want to find the best footy talking show that we have, just search youtube for "AFL 360" and filter by most recent and someone will usually be uploading them, and don't mind the drunk on the right of your screen too much, the actual journalist on the left keeps things mostly on track. Don't watch "The Footy Show", it is the absolute worst.
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An Actual Bear posted:Hey, I'm a filthy pom who is looking at getting into this sport. I know there's an AFL Live Pass but the Aussie version is a lot cheaper. Unfortunately it would mean using Hola to watch the streams/videos and I can't imagine that working well. Anyone got any experience doing this? Is it even a thing or should I just suck it up and get the UK version? Yeah as said the version available in Australia is rubbish quality, might as well find a dodgy stream if you don't want the cost of the international version. Dunno what it costs in pounds but I used a proxy to pay for it in Euros, was a better exchange rate than US dollars.
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May 13, 2015 14:45
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An Actual Bear posted:Hey, I'm a filthy pom who is looking at getting into this sport. I know there's an AFL Live Pass but the Aussie version is a lot cheaper. Unfortunately it would mean using Hola to watch the streams/videos and I can't imagine that working well. Anyone got any experience doing this? Is it even a thing or should I just suck it up and get the UK version? Oh btw try not to watch Carlton games
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May 13, 2015 15:00
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gabensraum posted:Yeah as said the version available in Australia is rubbish quality, might as well find a dodgy stream if you don't want the cost of the international version. Dunno what it costs in pounds but I used a proxy to pay for it in Euros, was a better exchange rate than US dollars. Gough Suppressant posted:If you want to find the best footy talking show that we have, just search youtube for "AFL 360" and filter by most recent and someone will usually be uploading them, and don't mind the drunk on the right of your screen too much, the actual journalist on the left keeps things mostly on track. Don't watch "The Footy Show", it is the absolute worst.
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May 13, 2015 15:16
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-13/fixture-top-of-the-agenda-for-club-ceos-meeting-with-the-afl Still not entirely sure how conferences could even work. The "West" and Adelaide would see way higher costs in travel and such disproportionate to the East. How about.. not loving with things for a change? Gillon's proposal sounds entirely like fuckery that will backfire somehow.
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May 13, 2015 16:27
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There's zero chance of the 17-5 system getting adopted because it compromises the big money spinner matches
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May 13, 2015 16:40
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Gough Suppressant posted:There's zero chance of the 17-5 system getting adopted because it compromises the big money spinner matches It might, actually. Though you do lose a bundle of genuine grudge matches (Carl v Coll, Showdowns, etc), games where high ranking teams play one another also draw whopping crowds and this system guarantees 6 weeks of top of the table clashes running into the finals. There was a post on /r/afl today about St.Kilda v Brisbane drawing 52,000 to Etihad in 2004. That fixture would be lucky to get half that if it were played tommorow. 6 weeks of that kind of hype running into the finals is going to draw some nice crowds, and if they possibly restructure the draft (give the bottom 6 premier the #1 pick or something similar), it will remove those terrible dead rubber 'Bryce Gibbs Cup' type matches. Also, even out the draw, greater equality, a closer and more even competition etc etc. But that's secondary to whether or not it will hurt the bottom line ofc.
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May 13, 2015 17:07
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Thanks for the information guys, I'll probably sign up for the UK version then.
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May 13, 2015 18:05
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quote:the bottom six teams would fight for draft positions. What the gently caress does that mean?
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Periphery posted:What the gently caress does that mean? Thunderdome
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Drugs posted:Thunderdome Hopefully. The only thing I can think of is that instead of the current reverse ladder order system we have now, that they'll use the performance of the bottom 6 teams for the final rounds (where they only play other bottom 6 teams) to determine draft order. So the team that finishes on top of that mini ladder gets pick 1 and the team that finishes last gets pick 6. I can see why they'd think that's a good idea, but the only way I can see it not compromising the whole point of the draft is if the AFL is much more generous with priority picks. That way a team that finishes last would get pick 1 and 6 instead of 1 and 2, which seems like a better system than the old PP system.
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May 13, 2015 23:25
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Yeah, in theory having teams fight it out for better draft picks seems good, but it's not practical. Some teams are actually really loving bad and they shouldn't be getting pick 6 while a team finishing 13th gets pick 1
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May 14, 2015 00:17
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I made an effortpost about a fixture similar to the 17-5 in the mid 2000s. Good times.
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The system as it is now isn't perfect but now there is some kind of weight as to who plays twice its flexible enough that you can have your two derbies etc. It's not perfect but it works. Some of these proposals cause more new problems than they would solve. Let alone bringing back things in the style of the sectional round-robin that didn't work for the VFL in the 19th century when you had eight teams. Doing a Scottish Premier League style split and then having the side finishing 13th getting the first draft pick is bad bad bad because at the moment, the 13th team finish with about 7-9 wins. Bring the split in, a team in 12th spot around R14-16 with little chance of making up ground to 8th might decide to tank and sneak into the bottom group, and if they fell out of the middle pack they're probably still going to be of the quality to able to tee off against the rock-bottom clubs, already with some wins in hand, and win the first pick as a reward. In fact, this doesn't seem like much of an incentive for keeping supporters of the worst club "engaged to the finish of a season". They'll tune out like they normally would, plus they get the kick in the teeth of having #6 as their first pick. Conferences? Well, you can either have one based on season ranking to keep the strengths balanced - which isn't hugely different to how it works now (and how the NRL actually do it), except perhaps a little more formalised and still a little less biased towards having the finals contenders play each other more often. Geographic conferences I don't think is possible, at least with 18 teams, because of the way teams are spread out. I mean, you might have West, North, and South-East, with six teams each. It's obvious which four of the clubs would each go into the West and North conferences, which would keep your derbies but then you've got to pick four Victorian teams who will have to travel a lot more often than the other six. OK, hypothetical, you have West Coast, Freo, Adelaide and Port in that West group. Then you pick off the two westernmost Victorian teams (for the hell of it), which would be Geelong and Footscray (I still come out in hives when I have to type "WESTERN BULLDOGS" like it's a brand of butter). Suddenly Footscray have four trips a year to WA and SA, and they get to host interstate clubs four times. Which is not going to be fantastic for their attendances. I would assume that we would still get a single ladder which eliminates half the appeal of having formal conferences anyway. Ideally? I'd have some kind of situation where each club is guaranteed to play each other five times over four seasons and still include the two derbies a year as an exception. I'm cool with keeping that for the "interstate" clubs because of the advantage Victorian clubs get in not having to travel every second week. (It might also work as four meetings over three seasons but that would involve extending the season by an extra game to fit it into the timeframe, which won't happen.) Anyway we have a big-rear end final eight with the crossover and poo poo, which I think is ideal because it tends to buff out any anomalies in the final ladder.
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There is one other problem I realised while eating my wheaties, it's totally conceivable that a club riddled with injuries and poor form could be in 6th spot at round 17, and would otherwise have crashed right out the 8 in the subsequent 6 rounds. That lovely team is getting a guaranteed home elimination final under this system. If we changed it so the system isn't locked into groups, but the draw is still drawn up on ladder position at that time (i.e the team in 6th can still crash out, but they still gotta play the teams in 1-5 positions in the final rounds), that would solve some of those problems.
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hiddenmovement posted:There is one other problem I realised while eating my wheaties, it's totally conceivable that a club riddled with injuries and poor form could be in 6th spot at round 17, and would otherwise have crashed right out the 8 in the subsequent 6 rounds. That lovely team is getting a guaranteed home elimination final under this system. If we changed it so the system isn't locked into groups, but the draw is still drawn up on ladder position at that time (i.e the team in 6th can still crash out, but they still gotta play the teams in 1-5 positions in the final rounds), that would solve some of those problems. If you make that change though, it's better to finish 7th than 6th if things are close because you can storm home to a potential double chance if it's a close year playing only the teams below you.
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May 14, 2015 06:27
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I kind of lurk in the NBA threads and they have me convinced that conferences are dumb and bad.
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May 14, 2015 06:40
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execute all players from losing sides from finals and make the clubs play new lists the next year imo
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May 14, 2015 06:45
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Chairchucker posted:I kind of lurk in the NBA threads and they have me convinced that conferences are dumb and bad. Why specifically? I mean, they sound dumb and bad but details for those who dont follow bball?
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May 14, 2015 06:59
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Nutsngum posted:Why specifically? I mean, they sound dumb and bad but details for those who dont follow bball? Bearing in mind I haven't been able to watch any of the games themselves, just followed the chatter in the threads: The Eastern conference has been bad for a very long time, so subpar teams that happen to be in the East have a better chance of getting to the finals than above average teams in the West. Then, (and this is also down to how the finals structure works I guess) the Eastern division finals is kind of boring compared to the West, in which all the much better teams are having epic series against each other. Also teams that are in terrible conferences get to play a bunch of rubbish teams more times per year.
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Conferences are for when you either have existing leagues in that want to merge but largely keep doing their own thing but play the odd game against each other and finish the year with a superbowl/world series, or when you have a very and evenly regionalised competition and you want your South African/Australian/New Zealand teams to play more games in their own countries. Nothing about the AFL points to conferences. Different finals systems are a different matter, but I acknowledge Hume's points on that.
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May 14, 2015 07:58
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The clubs voted against the 17-5 model at some meeting today. Also looks like the AFL will announce the new F/S and Academy bidding system sometime next week and maybe even trading of future draft picks.
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So Andrew Jarman has been suspended from triple M for a bit. When discussing how to please the ladies, specifically dom cassisi's pregnant wife, he suggested to "just gently caress the guts out of them with your big cock". On-air. And the producers didn't decide to edit it out of the pre-recorded segment before running it.
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May 14, 2015 09:33
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That has to be on the thread title shortlist
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May 14, 2015 09:38
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Gough Suppressant posted:So Andrew Jarman has been suspended from triple M for a bit. When discussing how to please the ladies, specifically dom cassisi's pregnant wife, he suggested to "just gently caress the guts out of them with your big cock". On-air. And the producers didn't decide to edit it out of the pre-recorded segment before running it. It's a shame, I used to really like Jarman on the drive home from work. I thought he was more intelligent than that.
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May 14, 2015 09:53
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Gough Suppressant posted:So Andrew Jarman has been suspended from triple M for a bit. When discussing how to please the ladies, specifically dom cassisi's pregnant wife, he suggested to "just gently caress the guts out of them with your big cock". On-air. And the producers didn't decide to edit it out of the pre-recorded segment before running it. He's been at least suspended for it now, hasn't he? The Herald Sun etc websites are reporting on it but it's behind the paywall so I'm not sure.
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May 14, 2015 10:51
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MysticalMachineGun posted:He's been at least suspended for it now, hasn't he? The Herald Sun etc websites are reporting on it but it's behind the paywall so I'm not sure. Yeah, not sure how long for.
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May 14, 2015 10:59
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Newton omitted while Matt Jones gets a game. I don't even fuckin know.
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Gough Suppressant posted:"just gently caress the guts out of them with your big cock". 
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