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Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Why do old people take so goddam long to get out of the car after they park?

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FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Even the most minute movement is pure agony to them.

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Why do old people take so goddam long to get out of the car after they park?

Death’s vision is based on movement.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.

FreudianSlippers posted:

Even the most minute movement is pure agony to them.

Only when they are moving to the left.

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Oct 30, 2009

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Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Why do old people take so goddam long to get out of the car after they park?

And another thing, why does it take women so long to get dressed am I right fellas?

PancakeTransmission
May 27, 2007

You gotta improvise, Lisa: cloves, Tom Collins mix, frozen pie crust...


Plaster Town Cop

Brawnfire posted:

I've never seen anything so stupid in my life, besides the guy who drove with a dog in a pickup bed on the highway.
This is normal here though, a lot of tradies (tradesmen) have a ute with a dog in it, usually it's leashed to a post. Sometimes they might have an actual cage for the dog. As long as they're restrained in some way, it's legal.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
It doesn't seem like a dog would enjoy that in the slightest but there are some real stupid dogs out there so who knows maybe they don't care that they're in mortal danger.

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Jul 13, 2004

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PancakeTransmission posted:

This is normal here though, a lot of tradies (tradesmen) have a ute with a dog in it, usually it's leashed to a post. Sometimes they might have an actual cage for the dog. As long as they're restrained in some way, it's legal.

Yeah, unfortunately this dog was restrained by idiocy alone, and decided to try to jump down off the bed because it couldn't tell the visual difference between still pavement and 45mph pavement :(

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

Sunswipe posted:

I loving hate it. I can just about accept that SOME dogs are dim enough that they'd be all "i can haz snakkz nao?" but cats? gently caress off. Talk like that to any cat I've known and they'll give you a withering look that means they know what you're doing and they think very poorly of you as a result.

Even with my dog, i imagine she goes like "father, i think it's time to go for a stroll" in her head. besides, dogs aren't goodly oafs like most people seem to think, they're sweet but also manipulative and sly, like children except more competent and with a better nose

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

i hate it when people cant navigate. i've seen my sister in law try to find a specific place in her own neighborhood, which has streets on a grid shape, she'd go west a few blocks, then south 1 block, and just walk back east for 2 blocks parallel to the road shed originally taken, like with no concept of cardinal directions at all. do all city people do this or something?

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Oct 30, 2009

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City people can’t drive. This is why there’s so much traffic and accidents.


It is known.

Dip Viscous
Sep 17, 2019


Cardinal directions are meaningless to me unless I have a compass, but rotating the map so the direction I'm facing is up has always worked out fine.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

CJacobs posted:

It doesn't seem like a dog would enjoy that in the slightest but there are some real stupid dogs out there so who knows maybe they don't care that they're in mortal danger.

They absolutely do, because they are bozos who literally don't understand the danger.

Killingyouguy!
Sep 8, 2014

Dip Viscous posted:

Cardinal directions are meaningless to me unless I have a compass, but rotating the map so the direction I'm facing is up has always worked out fine.

I used to do this until some sexist rear end in a top hat told me 'girls do this because their brains have weaker spatial processing' so I forced myself to stop and learn how to do it 'properly'

Midig
Apr 6, 2016

My take on it is that if he kicked the dog for any other reason than feeling threatened he is a piece of poo poo.

That being said, imagine you once got bitten really hard by a dog and you are always nervous around them because of this. You are trying to have a peaceful time outside and some dog jumps you and you panic the gently caress out. Then some guy yells at you because they don't understand that we come from the animal kingdom and have these things called instincts.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

i hate the idea that in writing, you should constantly vary your expressions to "avoid repetition", which just leads to people using stupid words like "indicates" or "sheds a light on" instead of the perfectly clear "says" (or "argues" or "contends", if you absolutely must create variation).

i'm proofreading my wife's thesis and while i'm very impressed by her use of english as a nongermanic nonnative, unfortunately somewhere along the line someone got this idea into her head and it's a lot of work to just weed this stuff out in favor of clear expressions. in general academic writing suffers from professionalization, a tendency imported from business and PR writing

related peeve: i hate it when native english speakers assume that it's easy to learn english "because i managed to learn french/spanish" without any awareness of how languages are related or how distant some languages are from others or how comparatively easy it is for them to learn another germanic or romance language

sephiRoth IRA
Jun 13, 2007

"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality."

-Carl Sagan
I feel you, man. I edit scientific documents on the side for a service built to help non-native English speakers tune their English papers up for journal publication, and it’s always a huge jumble of weird syntax or twisting words to avoid saying the same thing twice in a row. It’s totally okay to say the same thing twice in a row, people! It gets weird if it’s five sentences in a row but sometime the simplest way to state a thought is the best way!

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
That seems like literary advice (Whether it’s good advice or not is an opinion I guess) being applied to scientific papers, which have a totally different set of standards.

sephiRoth IRA
Jun 13, 2007

"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality."

-Carl Sagan

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

That seems like literary advice (Whether it’s good advice or not is an opinion I guess) being applied to scientific papers, which have a totally different set of standards.

The whole don’t repeat yourself thing? Absolutely. Writing a scientific pub is way different and people don’t think it is, sometimes. Also data doesn’t “prove” anything! Stop using that word!

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
To that end: Dear aspiring amateur writers everywhere, "said" is the most invisible word in the english language. It is ok to use it more than one time in your entire story after someone says something. Sometimes you can use it multiple times in a row and nobody will even notice!

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

That seems like literary advice (Whether it’s good advice or not is an opinion I guess) being applied to scientific papers, which have a totally different set of standards.

even in literary writing i'd say it's not. good writing is always very precise, it's fine to use obscure or very specific synonyms if they are appropriate to what you're trying to say, or to use an odd grammatical construction if what you're trying to describe is itself odd, in literary writing this is very effective. but once you start consciously substituting one word for another just because you're concerned that your sentence is "not pretty enough" you're entering the realm of lowly forms of writing like business letters, TED talks or satanic websites like grammarly that will eventually make us all illiterate by teaching us linguistic parlor tricks instead of real writing and oratory

the difference is that in literary writing, you can contort grammar or use weird words to achieve a desired effect, so it's done with the intent to convey, while the kind of thing i'm talking about is specifically done to obfuscate

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Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
We're talking about language.
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BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

Shibawanko posted:

the difference is that in literary writing, you can contort grammar or use weird words to achieve a desired effect, so it's done with the intent to convey, while the kind of thing i'm talking about is specifically done to obfuscate

When I worked on a weekly paper I had a colleague who had obviously had the 'never use the same word twice' thing drilled into him...and he applied too far and too literally. Which just resulted in paragraphs of tortuous, opaque and painful-to-read copy which I had to sub.

He got really tetchy whenever it was brought up or when he saw that I had basically rewritten his work to be understandable. He didn't get that it's fine to use the word 'Ford' more than once in a news story about the car company It didn't have to be 'Ford' then 'The Blue Oval' then 'the Dearborn-based car maker' then 'the world's number-five car manufacturer' then then 'the 110-year old company', then 'Henry Ford's eponymous firm' and so on.

And when the news story is about Ford testing a new braking system you could end up with nonsense near the end of the article like "The company known for the Model T and Mustang hopes to introduce its new retarding mechanisms next year." Verging on cryptic crossword clues!

I suppose the real pet peeve is people stubbornly sticking to a method of work when repeatedly asked not too and so just make extra work for other people.

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Jul 13, 2004

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CJacobs posted:

To that end: Dear aspiring amateur writers everywhere, "said" is the most invisible word in the english language. It is ok to use it more than one time in your entire story after someone says something. Sometimes you can use it multiple times in a row and nobody will even notice!

This was a MASSIVE discovery for me. When I writing I was like "omg I've written said after every line"

I'd start putting like "he chuckled" or "she moaned" or "they ejaculated" and other embarrassing constructs, he scoffed.

Then I realized the eye seeks out the words in the quotation marks, then attribution, then fucks off to the next line.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

BalloonFish posted:

When I worked on a weekly paper I had a colleague who had obviously had the 'never use the same word twice' thing drilled into him...and he applied too far and too literally. Which just resulted in paragraphs of tortuous, opaque and painful-to-read copy which I had to sub.

He got really tetchy whenever it was brought up or when he saw that I had basically rewritten his work to be understandable. He didn't get that it's fine to use the word 'Ford' more than once in a news story about the car company It didn't have to be 'Ford' then 'The Blue Oval' then 'the Dearborn-based car maker' then 'the world's number-five car manufacturer' then then 'the 110-year old company', then 'Henry Ford's eponymous firm' and so on.

And when the news story is about Ford testing a new braking system you could end up with nonsense near the end of the article like "The company known for the Model T and Mustang hopes to introduce its new retarding mechanisms next year." Verging on cryptic crossword clues!

I suppose the real pet peeve is people stubbornly sticking to a method of work when repeatedly asked not too and so just make extra work for other people.

I'm sorry about your editorial work for HP Lovecraft

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

BalloonFish posted:

'Henry Ford's eponymous firm'

i lost it at this one, did the writer also drive an actual model T and smoke a pipe?

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

sephiRoth IRA posted:

The whole don’t repeat yourself thing? Absolutely. Writing a scientific pub is way different and people don’t think it is, sometimes. Also data doesn’t “prove” anything! Stop using that word!

sort of opposite to this, when a writer shies back from making a strong claim or statement where appropriate and hides behind "might be" or "possibly", this is maybe okay in data sciences where it serves as a reminder not to jump to conclusions from measurements, but it's a problem in humanities where the unwillingness to make a strong statement usually just means that the writer has little to say

Killingyouguy!
Sep 8, 2014

I don't quite know where this fits in, but when I was studying speech therapy I once had marks docked because everything I said was backed by scientific evidence. Prof wanted 'more of my own opinion'. What the hell does opinion have to do with patient results?

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Killingyouguy! posted:

I don't quite know where this fits in, but when I was studying speech therapy I once had marks docked because everything I said was backed by scientific evidence. Prof wanted 'more of my own opinion'. What the hell does opinion have to do with patient results?

You're supposed to draw your own conclusions from evidence instead of just stating the evidence?

I don't know the circumstances of your situation but I can see it making sense?

Chip McFuck
Jul 24, 2007

We droppin' like a comet and this Vulcan tried to Spock it/These Martians tried to do it, but knew they couldn't cop it

I was recommended a Halo 2 play through the other day and had to close out of it because of the awful humor. At the very beginning of the game, the player and an NPC named Sergeant Johnson take an elevator together. The commentator decided this was the perfect time to unload these gems:

"I hope he doesn't RAPE me. You gonna RAPE me, Sergeant? Hope he doesn't RAPE ME in this elevator."

People still think this poo poo is funny?

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I just noticed QCS was changed to “quiet calm sincere” when it seems like the word “serene” would be a better choice?!

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Shibawanko posted:

nongermanic

It took me a few tries to read that as “non Germanic” instead of “nongermanic” which sounds like a british insult. Like a word for a bipolar pedophile or something.

franco
Jan 3, 2003
Mainly a work thing: people who always flag their emails as "high importance". I'm capable of checking all my emails and deciding what's most urgent/important. You're not jumping the queue or getting to the top of the pile, especially as every other fucker is doing the same thing so it becomes completely meaningless.

The Perfect Element
Dec 5, 2005
"This is a bit of a... a poof song"

franco posted:

Mainly a work thing: people who always flag their emails as "high importance". I'm capable of checking all my emails and deciding what's most urgent/important. You're not jumping the queue or getting to the top of the pile, especially as every other fucker is doing the same thing so it becomes completely meaningless.

This, and also putting a read-receipt on it. I have literally never allowed a read-receipt to go back to the sender, because gently caress them.

On the subject of language and academia, when I used to have to read and engage in literary criticism for my degree, I used to hate the amount of florid language critics would use when discussing literature. It just served to highlight that a lot of them were more interested in showing off their own creative writing chops than actually deconstructing the work in any meaningful or edifying way.

Really, though, I just hate myself because I was really good at spouting off this flatulent nonsense, and my lecturers loved it and gave me good marks :(

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

i enjoyed literary criticism as long as it stuck close to the actual work being discussed and let you see things in the work that you might not have noticed yourself

The Mighty Moltres
Dec 21, 2012

Come! We must fly!


I was at a gas station/corner store earlier to pick up some smokes, and a woman who usually flirts with me was working.
So we were talking and our conversation turned to global warming. (She asked me if I wanted a plastic bag for my single pack of cigarettes and it went from there you get it)
I made a joke about how global warming isn't real, and she immediately turned ice-cold.
I thanked her and left, and realized that I'm peeved at myself for having such a dry sense of humour that no one can really tell if I'm kidding around or not.
So I did what any sensible person would do and rushed home to post about it on the Something Awful dot com forums.

Agaragon
Nov 16, 2018

The Mighty Moltres posted:

I was at a gas station/corner store earlier to pick up some smokes, and a woman who usually flirts with me was working.
So we were talking and our conversation turned to global warming. (She asked me if I wanted a plastic bag for my single pack of cigarettes and it went from there you get it)
I made a joke about how global warming isn't real, and she immediately turned ice-cold.
I thanked her and left, and realized that I'm peeved at myself for having such a dry sense of humour that no one can really tell if I'm kidding around or not.
So I did what any sensible person would do and rushed home to post about it on the Something Awful dot com forums.

Once when I was a teenager my mom was driving me back to her house and I joked that I could never apply for a job at Papa Johns because my dad would disown me (Older brother had a job there and bought home so many defect pizzas that everyone got very sick of it very quickly). She took me seriously, I really should not have had to clarify.

My current major pet peeve is that I'm a small woman with the approximate grip strength and dexterity of a drunk chipmunk. gently caress jars, they shouldn't have to be such a process.

Killingyouguy!
Sep 8, 2014

Agaragon posted:

My current major pet peeve is that I'm a small woman with the approximate grip strength and dexterity of a drunk chipmunk. gently caress jars, they shouldn't have to be such a process.

God same and when this happens to me I feel like such a stereotype

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Agaragon posted:

My current major pet peeve is that I'm a small woman with the approximate grip strength and dexterity of a drunk chipmunk. gently caress jars, they shouldn't have to be such a process.

Stick a butter knife up the side to break the seal.

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The Mighty Moltres
Dec 21, 2012

Come! We must fly!


Just smash the jar open and eat the contents using a piece of the broken glass you idiot.

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