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Mineaiki
Nov 20, 2013

baw posted:

I think the biggest problem with economics is that it's both a soft science and something that is an important part of the national political dialogue, so you're stuck with idiotic ideas surviving long past their due date because influential people benefit from them, and voters themselves being swayed by easily-falsified talking points because economics is extremely complex and a lot of proven ideas don't pass the common sense test at first glance.

Add that in with the ability to always say "well that policy didn't work that time because they didn't do this thing, so it will be different if we try again" and the fact that the same policies can have varying degrees of effectiveness depending on when and where they are implemented and you come up with a partisan clusterfuck of opinions.

Politics in general is the same way. It would be nice if we could all just do the rational thing and completely shut out 99% of people who use the words "socialist" or "fascist" in political conversation, but we can't because politics touches everyone and we have to give the idiots a voice too. Yet politics and political theory are real things that real people study and even read and write books about!

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Mineaiki
Nov 20, 2013

The fact that US intelligence doesn't consider itself subject to our democracy is bad, but honestly there's a built-in solution to this, which is to cease funding the NSA, CIA, FBI, etc. Yes that's insane and it will never happen, but it is a power Congressmen have, and a card they can threaten to play. They can also decrease funding of these organizations until they can no longer afford to spy on every single American citizen.

So yeah, not really interested in listening to Congressmen whining about a problem they have full control over.

Mineaiki
Nov 20, 2013

Treason has a very specific meaning in this country, and for Obama to condemn Republican actions as "treason," he would need to admit that he views the Iranian government and/or its hardliners as "enemies," which is not a good thing to say in the middle of negotiations with those people. I think he's just trying to make this look like the usual hateful, hysterical, Republican nonsense and hope it goes away soon so he can get back to work.

In a perfect world this would be another piece of evidence proving that Republicans are and always have been abysmal at foreign policy, but I know their voters are just going to think this was a good idea.

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