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There are some things I left out in my earlier role claims that I am now happy to expound upon. I am Soundwave. In addition to tracking and watching, I also had three-shot inventor. My inventions are my companions Laserbeak, Rumble and Frenzy. I was provided absolutely no information about what they do besides their names. I am fairly certain that Laserbeak has an intel function. I have no idea what Rumble or Frenzy do, but I would guess that at least one is a roleblocker. On N1 I had a town read on Kat and thought she wouldn't be NK'd because she guessed wrong on Splode. So I sent Frenzy to her directly, which is why I had nothing to add to the lightning rod theory. N2 I watched WMB; he was ninja'd. I have despatched my other companions to others I had town reads on; they don't need to come forward. I was worries that one of my inventions (particularly Frenzy) may have gone rogue during the day and bombed Bif, but I really doubt they can be active during the day. I will be happy to answer any more questions if you have them.
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Apr 1, 2015 02:10
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Oh yeah Bif. I don't think we should be massclaiming our stuff yet, we have roles out there that we need to protect that are doing a good job and if we start narrowing down things the scum might get back into the game.
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Apr 1, 2015 02:16
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Those On My Left posted:i'm going to close this thread now and try not to open it for the rest of the day. really sick of this game at this point. gaspy i appreciate your experimentation with longer night phases, but i am now completely convinced that with mafia a quick game's a good game. i'm exhausted with this one by now, really tired of auspol's tolerance for non-contributing non-players, and lovely unrevisable theorising I am happy to oblige my friend. ##vote Those On My Left
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Apr 1, 2015 02:25
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my vote for splode was a lucky guess and I did it bc he was in the lead and I only wanted one person to get lynched, so i could just as easily voted another way and then I would be on the wrong side of ALL the lynches. I think it's kind of weird that I'm getting 'townie cred' for that and I think that's the second time bif has explicitly said that so hmmm. if everyone is convinced of my being town as that narrative suggests, I would look closely at people being most vocal in pushing it can we please lynch anidav though, he has done so many scummy things and the 'poor old anidav always gets lynched early' is bullshit as all the games I've seen him in have had him lasting until at least d3, and 2 x lynchproof seems so unlikely. if he was scum and got that list ability as a gift from town accidentally then the perfect time to blow it would be on a no-lynch, since he can still claim 'oh I tried to use this thing for the benefit of the town but, you know, I'm a loveable goof' ##vote anidav just once I would like to lynch anidav
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Apr 1, 2015 02:25
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busb posted:Oh yeah Bif. One thing I hadn't touched on at all when I prepared that post to get in ASAP-before-I-maybe-blow-up is we avoided a nightkill again. So yeah, that's a good point... we could just go on existing cases without needing to pin more claims down yet and then see who's left I guess. Based on the numbers I think we may likely have 2 scum left for a total of 6. Maaaybe 3 scum for a total of 7. 7 scum out of 21 players would be 33%, pretty much the top end of what's recommended in a sane Mafia game. But since one of them was an unconnected traitor, that drawback makes it still a decent possibility.
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Apr 1, 2015 02:26
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I would say 7 scum at least, we had the same amount of players in the last game and there were 6 people in one scum team and another scum floating around in the wilderness
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Apr 1, 2015 02:27
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The fact that it's role madness could lead to more scum being added too, since it significantly beefs up towns agency
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Apr 1, 2015 02:29
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You count traitors as half a scum when balancing usually, so i'd guess 6 in the main team plus the traitor, but 7 plus the traitor could be possible.
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Apr 1, 2015 02:30
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one role claim that might be helpful is if we can try to figure out what bifs timer thing is and who received it maybe
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Apr 1, 2015 02:30
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Gwyn explaining those devices and why he gave one to TOML, and the "gutbuster brownies" appearing to be legit does ease some of those lingering paranoid doubts I had about Gwyn. So yeah, I'm still pretty suss on TOML for focusing mostly on Gwyn as an excuse to ignore a lot of better stuff. But I think Gough would be another good alternative. Tie vote of whoever-it-is with Anidav would be the best though. 
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Apr 1, 2015 02:31
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I have no information that would help save Bif or i would share~ Okay one thing has just occurred to me.... What if the scum actually don't have a nightkill? Instead they are able to plant killswitches on a player each night and can choose when to detonate them. So they might have chosen a delayed one for bif, but loads of us could be running around with them unknowingly. It's really odd to have so many killess nights 
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Apr 1, 2015 02:33
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I'd vote for either TOML or Anidav today. I still don't like the idea of trying to tie the votes and would prefer not to aim for it. What we've been doing so far has worked well for us, let's not gently caress with it. Also I'm on a plane at about 10pm tonight and don't know if I'm going to have internet so my mafia playing is going to be drastically reduced if I survive beyond tonight. I won't ask for a modkill at this stage because I should be able to jump on wifi hotspots and I'll probably only need five minutes or so each day to vote TOML or Anidav for a few days anyhow.
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Apr 1, 2015 03:11
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busb posted:I have no information that would help save Bif or i would share~ There is a simple explanation for this re last night which I observed with my watching. However I am going to hold off on the details just now. I think Gough is a good choice, my feel seems to be he shows up at the last minute and just kinda goes along with what is happening at the time. The vote on Anidav really seemed wrong to me- I was pointing out his deception but not necessarily claiming he was scum- my feeling is that scum reveal power has to be town aligned.
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Apr 1, 2015 03:16
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black_tangled posted:The vote on Anidav really seemed wrong to me- I was pointing out his deception but not necessarily claiming he was scum- my feeling is that scum reveal power has to be town aligned. I thought so too but then someone suggested it could have been an invention that was given to him. If anyone saw Anidav out last night please report it so we have an additional reason to lynch him.
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Apr 1, 2015 03:22
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Anidav was not active last night.
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Apr 1, 2015 03:25
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##vote Those On My Left
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Apr 1, 2015 03:26
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Bon voyage Tirade~ ##vote Those on my Left I still think Anidav is 3P at best and would love to dual lynch.
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Apr 1, 2015 03:34
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I have not received any inventions. I did not visit anyone last night and I am not 3rd party. I did not visit in compliance with others request and I've voted pretty much only for scum so far. You can do a dual lynch if you want, I guess proving my claims is a pretty good reason to waste one of them. I still don't like feeling any more vulnerable than I have to be. Any scum left would love to bite a chunk out of it so be careful for any last minute bus rocking.
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Apr 1, 2015 03:58
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Haha, I wish I could influence Anidav with my playstyle a bit more.  "WOOOO I'M GONNA BLOW THE gently caress UP BWAHAHA!" "Oh no, what if I end up being only regular lynchproof instead of DOUBLE lynchproof??"
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Apr 1, 2015 04:15
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Gaspy I'm extremely sorry but I don't get the reference in the flavour text.
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Apr 1, 2015 04:16
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Bifauxnen posted:Haha, I wish I could influence Anidav with my playstyle a bit more. Yeah Anidav's chief concern - as always - is looking out for #1.
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Apr 1, 2015 04:17
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Someone night kill Anidav, tia
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Apr 1, 2015 04:17
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Tirade posted:Gaspy I'm extremely sorry but I don't get the reference in the flavour text. I think I read it refers to The Sopranos final episode. I haven't seen that though.
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Apr 1, 2015 04:18
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in a surprise twist scum have been trying to kill anidav every night, but the doctor keeps saving him, thus perpetuating this game forever more
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Apr 1, 2015 04:19
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Gough who are your picks?
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Apr 1, 2015 04:20
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I just want to note in case anyone was actually wondering that I am voting TOML because: 1. Threw suspicion on Mith and Gwyn yesterday. Voted Gwyn, stormed off, Mith flipped scum. 2. Gwyn showed up later to explain some things which happened, TOML has yet to engage with any of that. 3. The D1 unvote. Helping him not have to worry about this annoying game is just a side benefit for me.
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Apr 1, 2015 04:26
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#1 on my list is Gwyn by a long way I can see some arguments for TOML and wouldn't hate voting for him, but not entirely convinced. Anidav is either scum or the worst loving townie in history, and since we already know he is the worst townie in history I'll reserve judgement on that point.
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Apr 1, 2015 04:28
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But there are also some posters who have laid low and I don't have any real read on which makes me suspicious of them too.
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Apr 1, 2015 04:29
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Gough Suppressant posted:But there are also some posters who have laid low and I don't have any real read on which makes me suspicious of them too. Yeah Zets has played a quiet game as usual. Fruity too, but I'm still convinced that she's town with that Splode vote on d1.
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Apr 1, 2015 04:39
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Welp, I don't have much else to say really. It probably won't even do me any good to cast a vote if I blow up before it can be counted at the end of the day. For anyone keeping tabs on all the claims so far, I'd spent up all my powers already and had nothing left to do the night before. One last thing I think might be fun to do is an experiment for the pure hell of it. Does this thing go faster when I cast just ANY vote? Since it activated after I voted Mith, and I've started getting suss on Anidav, I got to wondering, what if it speeds up when I vote for non-townies or something? That would be way too good to be true to give me a literal scumdar, but then again, pushing it further to actually test the possibility may not have been expected, and may cause a quick detonation in any case. Instead of just waiting around to blow up, I'd like to at least test the hypothesis.  ##vote bifauxnen
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when you guys keep saying I'm town that is an invitation for scum to just nk me because it means they probably won't get very much traction trying to start a lynch train against me, so it feels a bit anti-town busb that idea of kill switches is kinda interesting. if I was a scum I'd plant a whole bunch of them and then wait ages until it gets close to lylo and then let me all rip at once BUT I can't see that being the only mechanism for scum kills since there was still at least one ninja hanging around presumably trying to knife people
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TOML is almost certainly affected by the gutbuster brownies today. I have not been able to confirm Birds' invention alignments - having theorised that there is a False Inventor out I was a bit wary of using something labelled "tiny Decepticon". While this may not be the most ideal placement I want to get it out there. Anidav is lying about his role because he has claimed Sensor as one of his innate powers. This is false, he used a metabomb he was given N2. I was also given one on N1, I don't know if there are any more in the game but I'm going to guess not - it would be too easy otherwise, even with Anidav squandering the first one. The other reason I know he received his Metabomb N2 is because when I received mine on N1 it was very light on details. On submitting my N2 actions I asked Gaspy to clarify how the metabomb worked and what it would return if I theoretically used it on a tied or failed lynch. I believe when Gaspy sent out the metabomb later he added the "successful" qualifier to avoid the confusion. I also believe, from his complete and utter failure to use it appropriately AND lying about his actual role, he is 3P or scum. So ... *squints* activate the ##metabomb BIF NO WHY!
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Apr 1, 2015 04:53
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Bif the suicide bomber
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Apr 1, 2015 04:54
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Fruity Gordo posted:when you guys keep saying I'm town that is an invitation for scum to just nk me because it means they probably won't get very much traction trying to start a lynch train against me, so it feels a bit anti-town For the record, I'm saying that one vote sure seems hella townie, but we should NOT get hung up on that if you continue to not lynch any more scum ever. It's a good reason to delay you over people that seem more suss, but not worth putting you in the "oh yeah totally cleared" category.
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Apr 1, 2015 04:54
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I never received anything. What's a metabomb?
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Apr 1, 2015 04:55
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im scared hold me auspol
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Anidav posted:I never received anything. What's a metabomb? Asphyxious posted:YOU HAVE ACTIVATED THE METABOMB!! 
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Bifauxnen posted:hang on, that TOML thing sounds like the "Gutbuster brownies" Gwyn said he gave him. Birdstrike posted:There are some things I left out in my earlier role claims that I am now happy to expound upon. So this is interesting. Look at how birdstrike's inventions are named, compared to 'gutbuster brownies'. I'm gonna go check Gwyns posts to see if those are the words he used but that's a weird discrepancy and I know which flavour I'm more inclined to believe, unless someone flavour claims as one of the transformers bird says he invented
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