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Latest revision: 07/2016 Welcome to the PC Sim Racing Thread. Here we are all about the right kind of pretend racing. Preferably on really expensive hardware. Discord IRC
iRacing Thread: I'm happy to incorporate any feedback, my plan is to keep these posts (reasonably) up to date. Also, some (most) of the stuff I've written is based on cursory research and/or personal opinion and/or based on what I gather the overall opinion on a topic in the larger sim racing community is. So don't hesitate to correct me on anything.  Post 1: Sims
 So what's the difference between sims and other racing games? Extremely broadly speaking:
I don't talk much about the physics of any of the sims listed here, the reason being that for any sim you'll find people calling it the best thing ever as well as people calling it utter crap because this other thing is obviously the best ever. Plus when people talk about physics a big part of what they're actually talking about is the feel of the force feedback, which is dependent on hardware, setup and personal preference, all further muddling the issue. The truth is none of these games truly recreate real world physics, they all have different philosophies on how to approach a reasonable approximation. Within some basic criteria the way they present the driving/racing experience qualifies all of them as sims in my opinion, and the only way to really find out if you'll like how one of them feels is to try it out. Spend time looking at the features and get a demo if possible, don't waste your time reading endless discussions about physics. I found that for pretty much any sim, once I set up my wheel correctly and gave it some time to get into the particular language of the game, I was able to find cars and tracks I love to drive. And a short remark about AI: AI always be AI, so good means good in the context of what's available. The better ones still have plenty of quirks and fuckups, and even within the same game it can vary wildly from track to track and car to car. Just tell me which game to get! Well, it's not that easy, but here is a very high level overview of some of the strengths and weaknesses of the current titles. 
 "Current" is a flexible definition, some of these have started many years ago, some might be based on older tech, for some "being in development" seems a bit of an eternal state. IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER    Assetto Corsa was released for PC in December 2014 and is coming to consoles this year. Version 1.0 was a bit of a disappointment, track selection was weak and the AI still pretty terrible. Three DLCs have improved the content situation, and the AI improvements especially since update 1.4 have been well received (though it's still trailing a fair bit behind the best of class). Kunos prides itself on using only laser-scanned tracks, an exception was made for an excellent mod track (Zandvoort) that was picked up as official third-party content. The mod scene is slowly but surely producing some very high quality scratch built tracks and cars, plus tons of converted old content of often questionable quality. Neither weather nor night racing are in the books, in terms of track conditions only overall grip level can change during a race. Assetto Corsa is highly moddable and currently seems to attract the biggest community. Second only to Project Cars in the graphics department.
   Automobilista started life as Stock Car Extreme which in itself started pretty much as an rFactor1 mod around the Brazilian Stock Car series. After years of toiling away providing updates and free content and in the process building a highly regarded but slowly selling sim, Reiza cashed in on some of their community's goodwill in 2015 with a very successful crowd-funding campaign. This led to an (overdue) re-branding and even more content, but most importantly a proper isiMotor2 license allowing them to finally dig into the innards of the engine and making more substantial improvements to the framework. Being a small studio they don't have any expensive licenses, but a great variety of unique racing series plus what is widely considered the best open wheel racing out there, featuring a wide selection of (non-licensed) F1 cars over several decades. Automobilista is very moddable and the first mods already made their way over from Stock Car Extreme, with more certainly to come. Graphically the game doesn't quite stand up to other modern titles, which is a bit of hurdle in getting people to try the game. Technically the game is still in Early Access.
   Probably THE surprise title in recent years, Dirt Rally is Codemasters going back to its roots. It just showed up on Steam Early Access one day and word quickly got around that Codemasters is actually making a sim. A rally sim. A good one. Dirt Rally has what you want from a Rally game: A good variety of rally cars across the ages, very nicely done scenery from all around the world blasting past way too close, and nothing XTREEEEEME at all. The multiplayer features online racing as well as competing for best times in asynchronous play. Being a rally game it obviously has weather and night racing.
   The official Formula 1 game from Codemasters and sixth of its kind since 2010. The only game with all the drivers, cars and tracks of the current F1 season. Reception has always been lukewarm, this iteration got especially bad reviews due to a severe lack of features, most noteably the omission of a career mode where you can create your own driver. However, from what I gather the actual driving seems to be the best yet, if still simcade style.
   It's still open if maybe the Formula Truck content might show up in Automobilista at some point. It's truck racing within the Stock Car Extreme engine, so if you want truck racing you can't go wrong with this one. The only downside is that Reiza is now focused on SCE, so Formula Truck isn't getting updated the same way SCE is.
   iRacing bills itself as a subscription-based service, as such it comes with high costs for the subscription itself as well as for content packs, but if you're serious about proper online racing this is really your only choice. Here you will find managed racing series and leagues and even the possibility of driving against real drivers from the amateur and professional racing world. At the core is a license system that constantly tracks your on-track behaviour and calculates a "safety rating" which in turn gives or takes away access to different classes and events. iRacing is as close as you can get to being a real race car driver. The business model of course prohibits any modding. iRacing is very much its own thing, and the thread here on the forums is very active, so it's advisable to go there for more in-depth information.
   First released as a demo in 2002 Live for Speed is developed by a three man team independent of a publisher, keeping it both cheap and focused, but sometimes slow to update. The game focuses on online gameplay making it very easy to just pick up and race, though lacks some of the bells and whistles featured in newer titles. The game features a mix of fictional and licensed content, fully supports the Oculus Rift, and has a time-unlimited demo. Because it is still under development the game is not open to adding in community made cars and tracks, though applications can be made to connect to LFS for data manipulation and server administration.
   Slightly Mad Studios previously developed the "Need for Speed: Shift" series under the boot of Electronic Arts, for Project CARS they went their own way with a self-funded/crowd-funded model. Currently without a doubt the most beautiful of the sims out there. Owning probably to its cross-platform nature pCars has an actual career mode, something you don't normally see in PC sims. There's a good amount of tracks and cars, with an emphasis on current and classic race cars. AI seems to be a bit of a mixed bag, though opinions on the matter vary. First mods have been sighted, although it's doubtful if a real community will spring up around it. Slightly Mad promised to keep expanding the game with DLC for several years, if the announcement of Project CARS 2 cuts those plans short has to be seen.
   RaceRoom Racing Experience or "R3E" is being developed by former SimBin people who did some of the best sims last generation on the isiMotor2 (i.e. rFactor1) engine. RaceRoom is Free-To-Play (with three tracks and half a dozen cars it would have been called Demo back when demos were still a thing) with purchasable content packs generally build around specific racing series, R3E as a whole is very much geared towards being able to play full race seasons with a proper field of cars and a good selection of fitting tracks. Reception initially was mixed but has been improving greatly. The AI is very capable of giving you a good racing experience and is, together with exceptional sound design, one of the standout features of R3E. If you buy all the content this is one of the more expensive sims around, but to be fair there is a lot of it done in good quality. Modding is nonexistant. Be aware that despite the strong "offline" racing R3E does not have an actual offline mode, you need to be connected at all times.
   The sim with a pedigree. rFactor 1 (or rather it's underlying isiMotor2 engine) was the platform for years. rFactor2 started development in 2009 and had some trouble getting off the ground but has been improving a lot. Official content is a bit meager and varies greatly in quality, not the least because the long development time means cars and tracks are or where in a state of catch-up. Recently ISI seem to be making strides to get their act together on that front, updating their own as well as incorporating third-party content. The AI is one of the better ones out there given the right (that is up-to-date) car/track combination. rFactor2 features "real road" technology (i.e. rubber/grip accumulates dynamically on the racing line) and a tire model that physically models flatspots (hello wheel vibration). There is weather as well as night racing. Highly moddable but the community hasn't embraced it as much as rFactor 1 yet due to the slow/shaky start and (so goes the word) the difficulty of modding for their tire model.
 Technology improves, not only in terms of presentation but also in the kind of physics a home PC can handle. Nevertheless most of these should still drive very well and you might find cars, tracks or series you like that you can't find in current sims. Some might be added more for their place in racing sim history. FROM NEWER TO OLDER    Released 2007 by SimBin - well regarded for their previous work on GT Legends, GTR and GTR2 - Race07 is one of the many games developed on the isiMotor2 (i.e. rFactor1) engine. Race07's features good racing AI and a host of expansion packs turning it into a pretty comprehensive racing collection. A collection of Race07 including some of the expansion content was released under the name Race Injection, however it's missing some beloved cars and tracks and is thus considered inferior despite slight upgrades.
   Another SimBin isiMotor2 joint, GTR2 from 2006 is one of the classics of sim racing. The emphasis lies on GT/Touring Car racing but some open wheelers are included as well. A kinda sorta remake of it made it to Race07 in the from of the GTR Evolution expansion, but I think the consensus is that GTR2 is superior.
   And again we have SimBin on isiMotor2. And again it's a classic. GT Legends was released in 2005 and is based around GT cars from the 60s and 70s. Somewhat rare in PC sim racing, GT Legends has a career mode and unlocks. There are two big mods (Historic GT & Touring Cars for rFactor and Power & Glory for GTR2) taking and improving GT Legends within (somewhat) newer engines, since you need GT Legends to install Historic GT & Touring Cars you might want to pick it up for that alone.
   rFactor was released in 2005 and became the racing sim platform for years, used for several commercial products and approximately one bazillion mods. The visuals are obviously showing it's age, the UI is archaic as is the configuration, but in terms of content it'll keep you busy for ages.
   The last entry developed by Papyrus in the once famous Nascar series and apparently still the only Nascar game worth playing. Since it was released back in 2003 NR2k3 has been modded to include a host of oval racing series ( Indycar, dirt ovals, legends, sprint cars etc). One of the founders of Papyrus later went on to make iRacing, which is based on the Nascar engine.
   If you're looking for good rallying, there
   If you're talking about a true classic of a game genre, this sim from 1998 is it. GPL has a bit of an unfair reputation as being unrealistically difficult to drive due to the demo car being set up idiotically and the full release not allowing any aids during actual races which made it hard for people to ease into the sim. Not that it isn't really hard, just not undriveably so. GPL has a surprising amount of mods as well as a big unofficial patch (start here).
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 If you spend god knows how much on a wheel it's a good idea to also spend some time digging into how to set it up correctly. Every sim handles FFB differently so there's sadly no all-in-one solution to be found, a little time investment is necessary. Plus, especially for older games, you might end up having to open the odd INI or CFG file. Here is a guide for rFactor2, but the general gist of it applies to other sims as well. I'll try to give you a short version of the important points, from my admittedly limited understanding of the subject: Clipping
In order to dial this in you need an app for the sim that shows you the forces, this generally comes as a pedals app with four moving columns which show clutch, brake, throttle and the current force feedback state. Then it's a matter of driving around adjusting force feedback strength so that it doesn't "get into the red" too much. You might also want to deliberately drive with clipping for a while to be able to recognize how it feels, this is going to help you dial in FFB in sims that don't have a way of measuring it.
 Steering Rotation is the amount of rotation the steering wheel has from far left to far right (lock to lock). Modern wheels generally have 900° or 1080° max and can be adjusted via driver and/or on the wheel itself. Steering Lock is the amount of rotation the front tires can turn from center to either side (generally, sometimes it's given as lock to lock, but not in any of the sims here AFAIK). Steering Ratio is the amount of degrees you have to turn the steering wheel so that the front tires turn one degree. Steering Ratio = Steering Rotation / ( 2 * Steering Lock ) For example: 540° Rotation with 20 Lock gives you a Ratio of 13.5 to 1. Or, if you like pictures, I found this somewhere:  The important thing really is to get the steering ratio right so the car isn't either too twitchy (low steering ratio) or two slow to turn (high steering ratio). There is of course lots of room for personal preference here. A low steering ratio means having to turn less in sharp corners and quicker counter-steering at the expense of precision. Some people adjust steering ratio on a per-track basis. Most new games either already have or will have the option to just tell them what your maximum wheel rotation is and they will set the "correct" values per car based on what the real-world values are. In older games you might have to set these yourself. Real world values for most cars seem to be within the 12 to 16 range, open wheelers often have lower values and Karts the lowest.  This is a touchy subject because it goes into "let me tell you how to play this game right" territory. Just consider this my personal opinion, you're obviously free to play the game the way you see fit.
Using the correct FOV is important. I didn't believe this at first, in fact I even thought that a higher FOV gives me a better sense of the "true" speed and thus might be of advantage. However what it comes down to is that you're actually getting a fake sense of speed by warping perspective and spatial dimensions. Think of your monitor as a window into the world (your brain does when it interprets distance and size) and install it in your car at the exact same distance as in your sim setup - there's only one correct FOV so that what you see on your monitor fits the rest of the world:  Monitor at ~22" distance from the eye.  My correct FOV of 37  AC standard FOV of 54 Hitting brake points, hitting apex, judging width of track, judging distance to other cars - all of that improved drastically for me after the simple change of setting the correct FOV. Getting used to the "slower" sense of speed took me about an hour or two. GhostDog fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Oct 16, 2015 |
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  Thrustmaster T2, "force feedback" was generated by two bungee cords pulling the wheel back to center. It was amazing. You'll probably want a force feedback wheel sooner or later. Here's a list of commonly used wheels. Some might be discontinued but still available through ebay and the like. With some of these pedals and/or shifters are included, for some you have to spent extra. Entry Level (< $200)
A good set of pedals is not to be underestimated, especially pressure sensitive (as opposed to just travel sensitive) brake pedals. Fanatec's Clubsport Pedals ($300)and CSR Elite ($200) pedals are probably the go-to, quite expensive, plug-and-play choices right now.  Cockpits Nerdrock posted:
Oculus Rift  Oculus Rift is a virtual reality headset currently in development by Oculus VR under chief technology officer John motherfucking Carmack... look, I don't really have to tell you what Oculus Rift is, do I? Instead, let's hear about which sims currently support Oculus and how well: peter gabriel posted:iRacing: Native Rift support, extremely easy to use. The game asks if you want to use your Rift when you join a race, just click 'Yes' and away you go - all menus in game are VR friendly. Probably the best implementation of VR support out there. Cojawfee posted:Here's some rift info for the games I have played: osker posted:Richard Burns Rally: This sim, believe it or not, has great Rift support thanks to a Finn. The Rift solves the original RBR's terrible cameras. To get it working you have install the Official Patches 1.01 and 1.02 then head over to http://www.kegetys.fi/richard-burns-rally-oculus-rift-mod-update-v1-2/ download the mod.  General sim racing sites: VirtualR - General news RaceDepartment - General News, forums, big mod repository Inside Sim Racing TV - General news, hardware & game reviews iRacing News - iRacing centric news site RaceSimCentral - General news, currently in domain transition Youtube channels: Inside Sim Racing TV - General news, hardware & game reviews Sim Racing Garage - High end hardware reviews And some LP type Youtube channels, good if you just want to see a particular game or new content for a game in motion: Empty Box - Has opinions. Jimmy Broadbent - Excitable and sometimes hard to understand. Abgefahren - German, so most of you can concentrate on the video. GhostDog fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Sep 30, 2015 |
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 Notable content mods released for Assetto Corsa as of May 2015: 1.1 Ready Mods Cars:
Tracks: (Tarmac circuit unless otherwise noted)
Broken Mods Cars: There are two things that need to be updated to make these old car mods work in 1.1: Aeros: Open aero.ini in the car's data folder and remove the entire block with the [DATA] header and change VERSION under [HEADER] to be VERSION=2. Sound: Copy another (hopefully similar sounding) car's GUIDs.txt and .bank file from their sfx folder into the sfx folder of the car to be updated. Then replace the name of the .bank file and every reference in the GUIDs.txt with the folder name of the car being updated. If the car already has a GUIDs.txt and .bank file, then this likely isn't necessary.
There's tonnes more mods out there if you know what you're looking for. Jehde fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Jul 1, 2015 |
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Got my first wheel, a G27 and iracing. It's a lot of fun. Can't wait to try some of this poo poo in the rift or HTC vive.
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Racing sims are fantastic and this is the best time currently to get into the genre. We've seen some amazing new high quality sims in the last year and Project CARS comes out in a month. 
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Sim Racing is serious business https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdEZ59T8j44
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Lots of info in there.
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Project CARS, go gold already.
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holocaust bloopers posted:Project CARS, go gold already. Agreed. Also the consumer Occulus Rift.
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holocaust bloopers posted:Project CARS, go gold already. April 2.  In before another delay.
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A recommendation, as your sim gear gets more serious, you might have to as well. It is rumored that a motor add-on for the expensive Accuforce wheel can break your goddamn arms. If you do endurance racing, proper gloves to prevent blisters might be needed as well as footwear. If you can buy spare parts, do so so that you're not waiting weeks without a wheel or pedals. I have a spare racing wheel and pedals in the form of a MOMO wheel, but also spare pots for my Clubsport Pedals and tools at the ready to fix my stuff.
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by Thrustmaster T300 and T300 you really mean Thrustmaster T300, Thrustmaster TX, and Thrustmaster T500rs right?365 Nog Hogger posted:Sim Racing is serious business That has to be Pastor Maldonado driving the Lotus there. GutBomb fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Mar 1, 2015 |
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I just noticed that VirtualR isn't in the OP. They cover most major updates or trailers on these sims, as well as major mod updates or releases. (Posting for first page posterity) There's a decent crowd of Goons who race in a weekly iRacing league. GoonCar's current season is 3/4 done, and runs every Sunday until the season runs out. Then, we'll run for another dozen weeks once someone ponies up the cash for hosting. We run Skip Barber cars on mostly short ovals, with a couple of road courses thrown in and a figure 8 death race to finish out the season.
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I'm getting these errors every time I try to start a race in Assetto Corsa and then it kicks me out to the main menu. Any ideas?  
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Did you try googling any of them? What are your computer specs?
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KillHour posted:I'm getting these errors every time I try to start a race in Assetto Corsa and then it kicks me out to the main menu. Any ideas? Verify integrity in Steam.
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holocaust bloopers posted:Verify integrity in Steam. Did that already. Googling mostly came up with stuff about triple monitor setups, which I don't have. Specs: code:
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Is it on a certain car or track, or is it for any combination? I've had mods give me errors before. I've also had Fraps crash Assetto Corsa... Good thing they have a built in framerate app.
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CaseFace McGee posted:Is it on a certain car or track, or is it for any combination? I've had mods give me errors before. I've also had Fraps crash Assetto Corsa... Good thing they have a built in framerate app. Any combination. No mods installed.
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i know it's generic but have you tried a complete reinstall?
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OhsH posted:i know it's generic but have you tried a complete reinstall? No dice.
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Ringo Star Get posted:A recommendation, as your sim gear gets more serious, you might have to as well. It is rumored that a motor add-on for the expensive Accuforce wheel can break your goddamn arms. Where dis rumor from?
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Ziploc posted:Where dis rumor from? From the iRacing forums. Take it with a grain of salt but I'd like to imagine that there is some goober out there who did the motor add-on and then cranked it up to 11 while blaring Guns 'n Roses and plowed into the walls at Daytona and promptly had both his arms get pulled right off.
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There's no motor add on to the accuforce. It's an industrial servo motor with a control box. The servo cranked to the max can break your arm. That's one reason why I'm wary of getting one of those. My CSW is already really strong and I have to be careful to let go of that so it doesn't break my thumbs. Be wary of a device that comes with an emergency stop button.
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I'm glad I saw this thread! I'm on my third wheel now, a G27, and it's great but I'm having trouble finding games that fully support it. I have Assetto Corsa, and it's pretty good in its current state, but I spent a lot of time going through racing games on Steam but being unable to find many more that fully support the G27. Worst-case scenario, some of the arcadey-ones only support gamepads, no wheels at all.  I think I have Race07 though, and iRacing looks good (and it has Miatas!  ) The only thing is I don't race often enough for a subscription to be worth it. The same for a cockpit, I don't drive enough to justify the expense (and don't have the space for one); right now I have to clamp the wheel & shifter to my keyboard drawer, which isn't ideal as far as the positioning of the shifter is concerned, plus it has a tendency to get pulled off the tray as I shift. I wish there was some compact, temporary cockpit setup that I could use. I do have driving gloves & shoes (Piloti) that I use in my big-boy Miata, though, that I will try with the G27 the next time I set it up.The only thing is, I'm pretty terrible at racing games. I don't get the sensation of speed from the games so it's hard to judge corners. This is probably due to the disconnect between the visuals and my brain knowing that I'm actually stationary in a chair. It's still fun to play these games/sims, but I guess I'm just not cut out for being a racist.  I wouldn't mind some kind of driving sim, versus racing ones; it would be fun just to drive around real-world locations and enjoy the scenery rather than trying to hopelessly race people who are much better than me.
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In regards to the RBR copy from gamesplanet, is that just a copy of the original disc or does it incorporate the latest patches?
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Atomizer posted:The only thing is, I'm pretty terrible at racing games. I don't get the sensation of speed from the games so it's hard to judge corners. I think a lot of that is due to the sensation of speed coming in large part from fast movement in your peripheral vision which you just don't get on a single monitor. GutBomb posted:by Thrustmaster T300 and T300 you really mean Thrustmaster T300, Thrustmaster TX, and Thrustmaster T500rs right? Copy-Paste Failure, corrected. As far as other feedback goes, I'll collect that and update next weekend.
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KillHour posted:I'm getting these errors every time I try to start a race in Assetto Corsa and then it kicks me out to the main menu. Any ideas? Did you try reinstalling DirectX and/or your gfx card drivers?
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GhostDog posted:I think a lot of that is due to the sensation of speed coming in large part from fast movement in your peripheral vision which you just don't get on a single monitor. This might be part of it (although I have 4 monitors, I only play on one because I use a 2x2 setup) although I still think the majority of the problem is that you know you're not really moving at any speed. Like, you know how when you're in an actual vehicle (car, plane, whatever) you can tell when you're moving even with your eyes closed? Not only can you detect acceleration, deceleration, and lateral motion, you also get feedback from the controls, so if you're driving you can tell when you're losing traction. Force Feedback can only compensate for the latter to a degree. Even though the cars in Assetto Corsa are race-prepped, and much faster than my own, when I'm flossin' in my Pussy Magnet I can drive it way harder than any car in a sim (in the sense that I can push it to its limits without misjudging speed and/or losing control.) I mean is it just me or do you guys also have some trouble adapting to virtual cars?
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Atomizer posted:This might be part of it (although I have 4 monitors, I only play on one because I use a 2x2 setup) although I still think the majority of the problem is that you know you're not really moving at any speed. Like, you know how when you're in an actual vehicle (car, plane, whatever) you can tell when you're moving even with your eyes closed? Not only can you detect acceleration, deceleration, and lateral motion, you also get feedback from the controls, so if you're driving you can tell when you're losing traction. Force Feedback can only compensate for the latter to a degree. Everyone experiences the "virtual car adaptation" you're going through. You just can't get a proper feeling for speed in your seat as in real life. It takes a lot of getting used to, as you rely a lot more on listening to the tire squeals etc to know when you're breaking traction. iRacing is expensive, but there's almost always promos going on where you can pick up a year of subscription for the cost of a single AAA title (around $50). Just keep an eye out. Someone usually posts in the iRacing thread when a new promo is happening too.
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Another big part of it is just the complete lack of g-forces exerted. Something like this would help with that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFCRh-anfRg But even with a ridiculuous set up like that, simulation will never match reality.
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You might as well build a racecar with the cost of a setup like that.
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Norns posted:You might as well build a racecar with the cost of a setup like that. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3654809&userid=96567#post438320091 Obviously, you don't know goons. (He's doing both!)
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Norns posted:You might as well build a racecar with the cost of a setup like that. I know what you're trying to say but that's kind of dumb. Yes, you can get an actual race car for the cost of a motion rig like that. But once you factor in the cost of transportation of your race car, maintenance, and other running costs, it's cheaper to have the motion rig.
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Mar 2, 2015 19:42
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The updated Brabham for rF2 is really fun. Also, rF1 just showed up on Steam: http://store.steampowered.com/app/339790/
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Mar 2, 2015 20:08
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No I get it. 30 grand also isnt going to get you into a F1 or a Bugatti. But it will get you close with the motion rig. Still a lot of money you could build a fun track car with.
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Mar 2, 2015 20:09
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KillHour posted:I'm getting these errors every time I try to start a race in Assetto Corsa and then it kicks me out to the main menu. Any ideas? Go to your documents folder and open Assettocorsa/cfg/video.cfg and change aa samples from zero to one. I was getting the same error a while back when I was dicking with my oculus rift settings.
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GhostDog posted:In regards to the RBR copy from gamesplanet, is that just a copy of the original disc or does it incorporate the latest patches? It is just a copy of the games disc hence my linking to the official patches which you can only really find through racedepartment. The rsrbr2015 includes the patches, but if your goal is just vanilla rbr then you're gonna have to hunt them down like I did.
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