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Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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Stroop There It Is posted:

Is anyone not happy with Santino leaving? 'Cause he's the worst.

I'm fine with the change on the judge's panel, but I never really got the hate for him.

Anyway, I'm super pumped for the show's return, it's such a delight. But I'm also a little nervous. As someone said in the previous thread, most of these queens look like dollar store versions of seasons past queens. Based on the previews, there is definitely some aping of Raja and Sharon Needles going on.

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Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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I don't see Tempest (too dated), Jasmine (too sloppy), Trixie (Michelle is going to go to town on her makeup), or Max (too one note) lasting very long. We'll see though. For the first time in a few seasons I haven't followed all the internet sleuthing showing off what these queens can really do, it's just my own speculation from the promo videos and the first 10 minutes of the first episode.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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So, I'm watching the episode again for a second time after work, and wow. Jasmine is definitely strong competition for the most unpolished queen to ever be on the show. It's great that she has such a positive attitude, because wow, everything else about her is just a mess.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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Speed Crazy posted:

I love Katya.. I guess I'm just a sucker for quick witted queens like Willam and Jujubee.

Yeah, Katya is fantastic so far. Maybe not enough to win it all, but they need to keep her around until the final three for her quips alone.

Also, from Untucked, I don't know if I believe Pearl when she is shocked that the other queens find her cold. But if it's the truth, I find it to be kind of charming, although I could just be charmed by those "bedroom eyes" as she put it.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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I suspect that Katya is already doing videos for World of Wonder means that she is going to be sticking around for a bit, or at least making a lasting impression.

Here's to hoping that since Jasmine has done nothing but releasing a transphobic video followed up by a deletion of said video and then an apology video means that she is not for long.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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criscodisco posted:

I'd love to know more about that.

According to reddit, Jasmine recently recorded a video of her ranting at transwomen saying that they'll never be real women, that she will never call them a woman because they were born a man. She naturally caught a lot of heat for this, so she deleted it, and made an apology tweet.

Here's one link on reddit about it.

I've been trying to figure her out, because she just seems so off. I thought maybe she had just been playing the role of a dumb twink for too long. But honestly, she seems like she is legitimately stupid.

Nihonniboku fucked around with this message at 12:25 on Mar 6, 2015

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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It's so funny comparing the thoughts of all you guys in this thread, with those over at Reddit. Aside from the transphobia controversy (of which many of them are just saying 'gently caress the haters'), they are just living for Jasmine. They're saying they love her positive attitude, which I find hard to see after that latest Untucked where she just came out as so just awful. I made a comment about how she seemed so unpolished, and got massively downvoted. I just don't get it.

Edit: Also, I'm really loving Trixie, Ginger, and Katya. I think they'll go far. I suspect Max will trip up on the Match Game, given that he isn't even very good at his own character of the old Hollywood starlet. And it's only a matter of time before Kandy Ho goes. Miss Fame needs to snap out of it, she could go far if she would just loosen up.

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Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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Combed Thunderclap posted:

There's a whole thread there right now entirely devoted to talking about Jasmine's rudeness in Untucked. If anything they seem to be head over heels for Pearl/Trixie/Katya/Fame/Ginger like just about everyone else.

Oh thank god. I was thinking they had lost their minds.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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CHiRAL posted:

Some serious T: Phi Phi O'hara spent 30 days in Jail

I never though I'd say this back when I watched season 4 but I really like Phi Phi. He's come a long way since being on the show and I liked what I've seen of his cosplays on Instagram over the past couple of years. Girl really stepped her pussy up!
The fact he decided to be honest and open about this incident just adds a whole new layer of appreciation and respect for him.

I can't watch 21 minutes of Phi Phi griping about his life. For those who want to know, I saw the first few minutes, and he apparently stole eyeglasses 8 years ago. There was a warrant for his arrest in Texas, and when he flew there for a gig, the cops were waiting at the airport for him to arrest him.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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angerbeet posted:

Apparently she had a bag packed with bread, cold cuts, and a giant bottle of hot sauce. According to gossip from one of the viewing parties with Ginger.

You can see the hot sauce in the episode!



Yeah. It sounds like Ru tries to starve her queens to make everybody hungry and ornery, for the drama. Other queens in the past have complained about the pathetic excuses for food they were given. Sharon is a vegetarian, and said she ate nothing but mayonnaise sandwiches the whole time she was there because the crew simply would not give her anything vegetarian.

So, filling a suitcase with food was probably the one smart thing that Jasmine did this season. Good riddance such a nasty, bitter queen was sent home packing. When it was revealed in Untucked that she was seriously planning on just standing there and refusing to lip sync before Kandy talked her out of it, she just lost any ounce of pity or respect that I had left for her, of which there was very little to begin with.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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notaspy posted:

Not going to see this for a couple of days... What happened?

There is an older queens alliance consisting of Kennedy, Kasha, Jasmine, and Ginger. They hate the younger queens.

They dressed up as old women and did a dance off to determine who would lead the teams: Kennedy and Max.

Max's team performed Romy and Juliet. Kennedy's did Macbitch.

Pearl has never heard of Macbeth.

Max's team did fairly well. Jayden had a breakdown, but Max talked her through it and pulled it off.

Kennedy's team was a disaster because they didn't practice. Kennedy was also trying to take out Violet by giving her the part of the ghetto queen, but that backfired when Jasmine couldn't pull off bitchy in the title role of Macbitch. Turns out Jasmine couldn't pull off ghetto either. Pearl came off as cold and flat, surprise, surprise.

During this insanity, Ru let loose on the queens, screaming at them to pull their poo poo together.

For the runway, the queens wore ballgowns and beards. Jasmine for some reason refused to wear a beard claiming she would get acne and would have to go to the hospital. She painted one on instead. It looked terrible, although her dress was pretty sick.

When Jasmine and Violet were giving excuses for their performances, Ru lost it on them again and told them she was sick of their excuses.

Max won, deservedly. She was hilarious in the challenge, and her bearded look was great.

Kennedy and Jasmine lip synced, and Jasmine was sent packing.

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Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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Vertigo Ambrosia posted:

That was some giant defense mechanism bullshit. Didn't they say she was packing her bags before the actual performance when she heard it was an acting challenge? Did she think the show was just going to be lip synching and being sour as gently caress and nothing that she'd struggle at? It's especially ridiculous because Jaidynn had a sudden freakout in the middle of their performance and she pulled her poo poo together really quick; Jasmine just took one look at something vaguely out of her comfort zone and just gave up so she could pretend like she was going out with honor or some poo poo.

Yea, it reeked of Magnolia Crawford last season, who after getting eliminated "first", claimed she never wanted to be on the show in the first place.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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Jiggly Caliente guest starred on Broad City tonight as the shop keeper at a wig shop.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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Trig Discipline posted:

They do, and it astonishes me. I can see that for the first season or two, maybe, but how can anyone who's seen a single season of Drag Race still entertain the notion that looking good is going to be enough to win? Every season starts with three or four queens who seem to think they look so good that they don't have to actually do anything well, and they just drop like flies.

Even stranger are the queens who can't act tend to really hate on those who can, and who lately have inevitably gone on to win the whole thing.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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On the latest episode of Gayest of All Time with Jonny McGovern (formerly Gay Pimpin' with Jonny McGovern), they were discussing RuPaul's Drag Race, and two of their regulars have strong connections with the show.

First is Lady Red, a drag queen who is actually drag cousins (I'm guessing their drag mothers were drag sisters) with Jasmine Masters. When Jonny asked Lady Red if she was her favorite, she paused, and replied very diplomatically, "I am glad that she is on the show." Beyond that, she commented that Jasmine is a pro at throwing shade, something that I think we can all attest to.

Todd Masterson, a comedian, actually worked on the show. It sounds like he helped design the challenges, and maybe even helps write the jokes. He said they wanted the show to feel very fresh, so that's why they got an all new pit crew, why Untucked looks so different, and why they didn't do a photoshoot as the first challenge this season. They were originally going to have an actual drag ball with a live studio audience, but they nixed that last second because they were afraid of spoilers getting out of who was actually on the show. When asked who his favorite queen was, he refused to comment because he felt that would give away that they were going to be on the show for a while.

Also, if it wasn't obvious, they knew they wanted to do a stewardess challenge, but weren't sure how to do it until they saw that Virgin Airlines inflight safety video, and they took their inspiration from that.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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Fresh Like Zafo posted:

That elimination was some bullshit. Neither one should have been in the bottom.

They were honestly the two weakest on the weakest team this week. No way are they the weakest in the competition, but this week, yea. Hopefully they'll bring Trixie back. Pearl's lip sync was INTENSE. I'm not sure it was appropriate for the song, but it was chilling.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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Eight Dollars posted:

How did Kennedy win over Jayden?!?!

Yea. That challenge was Jayden or Violet's. I couldn't even remember Kennedy's look when they awarded her the win.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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shadow puppet of a posted:

Who wouldn't want to see Fallon's phony aw-shucks persona drop in a heartbeat when called out on his cheating-rear end new father ways. Late night would be a little dangerous again.

What are these rumors that Jimmy Fallon is cheating? That's news to me.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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PostsYouCanDanceTo posted:

I wanted Jaydinn to win this one. Her Bianca was so fun to watch. And I thought she looked true-to-her-name FIERCE on the runway.

Yeah, I thought for sure she was a shoe in to win this week. She was fantastic, and to me, Kennedy didn't stand at anymore than Mrs Kasha Davis or Kandy Ho.

But then I remembered. Ru LOVES a ghetto queen done even moderately well, and I had forgotten that's what Kennedy did. Doing a ghetto act just cracks Ru up. I remember back to when Shangela and Coco Montrese won their comedy challenges, when they were not the strongest that week.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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CaptainScraps posted:

Honestly the calls have been so bad I'm not feeling this season as much.

I honestly think that it's because the queens are all pretty much on the same level this season. In previous seasons there were always a few obvious duds who were definitely going home the first couple episodes. Then a several middle of the pack girls, and then one or two absolute standouts. Really, since season 3, pretty much every season the ultimate winner was getting a winner's edit the entire season. Raja, Sharon Needles, Jinx Monsoon, Bianca del Rio, I don't think any of us had any doubt that any of them were at the very least for sure going to be in the final three. But this season, I have no clue. Maybe Ginger? But even she isn't that much of a standout compared to the winners of seasons past.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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With Violet, it's a combination of: 1) her constant resting bitch face 2) she has made little to no effort to make friends 3) she is the fishiest and youngest queen, so the others are ganging up on her a bit.

She definitely is no PhiPhi or Roxxy, the closest to that this season would be Jasmine, Kennedy and Ginger, but even they're no where near the level of PhiPhi or Roxxy.

Really, just like how this season has no real standout queens, they also have no real standout drama, so the producers are milking this Violet hate as hard as they can.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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Speed Crazy posted:

Kennedy's crystallized bloody flaming chicken horse (?????) runway look might be the worst outfit to ever walk the RPDR runway.

Seriously. I'm watching Untucked right now, and she's talking about how happy she is because they all did such a great job.

She is so lucky that her teammates won that challenge for her, because she would've gone home otherwise.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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dude789 posted:

She probably wouldn't have gone home. I'd imagine that if Kennedy were in the bottom 2 she would have displaced Jaidynn and Kandy would still be in the bottom 3 times death knell. Not to mention that Kennedy's outfit looked a lot more mobile than the one in her first lip sync and according to videos at least, Kennedy is a superb lip syncer.

You're probably right. Hopefully this is the last of the group challenges so that we can stop some of these queens riding the coattails of others.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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Capsaicin posted:

If Katya doesn't win (which is a national travesty), she is probably Miss Congeniality, but also possibly Trixie.

Only if Trixie is brought back. Otherwise she will have been gone too long.

Katya is for sure going to take Miss Congeniality.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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Flyinglemur posted:

Anyone else think Jayden Dior's version of Bianca was amazing? I could not stop laughing and I think they got cheated out of a win.

It was. I thought for sure that she would take the win.

But as I said earlier in the thread, Ru has a thing for ghetto queens, hence the Kennedy win instead.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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Pearl - surprisingly hilarious as Big Ang.

Kennedy - I wanted to hate her performance as Lil' Richard because she is doing the SNATCH Game as a man, and I'm tired of her poo poo in general, but she wasn't half bad!

Ginger - Adequate performance as Adele. She reused some of the same jokes that Stacey Lane Matthews and Latrice Royale used in Snatch Game as other big girls.

Katya - Officially my queen to win it all!

Jaidynn - Raven Symone could have been funny, but meh. I was too old to ever watch That's So Raven, and she focused on that era of Miss Symone.

Violet - Adequate last minute choice to do Alyssa Edwards. I don't really know how I feel about the queens impersonating queens from previous seasons.

Max & Miss Fame - Embarrassingly bad as Sharon Needles and Donatella Versace respectively.

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Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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I mean, what the hell was Max thinking doing Sharon Needles? Max is a huge prude, and Sharon is the utter and complete opposite. Max did what PhiPhi thought Sharon's shtick was. Max apparently doesn't get Sharon at all.

Edit: Bye bye, Max

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Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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gandlethorpe posted:

Granted, I only just caught up to the current season, but I'm still reeling from DeLaGate. The worst part for me was how it took Miss Congeniality away from the super sweetheart Joslyn Fox. Not that Ben wasn't a candidate for it, but Joslyn was much more appropriate.

Yeah. I still look back at that season and think of what a surprising delight Joslyn Fox was. Not only was she gorgeous both in and out of drag, but she had great comedic timing.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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legsarerequired posted:

Does anyone else feel like this season has less energy than previous seasons? I'm not sure if it's the queens all being super talented, the lack of a clear villain, or what...

Yes. It's a little boring compared to the last few seasons. I don't think all the queens are super talented. I think it's mostly amateur hour this season.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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Nyeehg posted:

Has anyone here seen Patricia's Love, Like or Loathe? It's essentially Fashion Photo Ruview if it was hosted by a fans mother who doesn't watch the show and knows little of drag. While I don't usually agree with her choices, it's super charming and I'm hooked.

Also while she try's to be polite, she can throw some sweet shade.

"It doesn't look to me like she's going anywhere special. I'm gonna loathe that"

She called Jasmine Masters sophisticated looking.

I just can't with her.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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DominoDancing posted:

Not only am I happy that Trixie is back, this was definitely the episode this season has been missing so far. Good to know that Ru and the producers still manage to have an ace up their sleeve.

Yeah, it really made me realize how much I've missed the workroom antics. With all the challenges this season being acting challenges, we've really had very, very little time in the workroom.

Also, I've noticed that it's becoming a thing where Ginger has a smoking minute at the end of every Untucked every week.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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aDecentCupOfTea posted:

I have a question for you guys; out of all the queens you've seen live, who's impressed you most?

Despite being openly gay and regularly out in the gay scene, I've only managed to ever see one drag show ever. And it was... Tatiana... at her home club Town here in Washington, DC.

She looked great. But she was really, really boring. She wasn't even really performing, she was just lip syncing while walking around and collecting money from the audience.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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Not Today Satan posted:

Ginger really reminds me a lot of the southern women I've grown up around. They're not intentionally catty but they do have a knack for saying one thing and then turning around and saying another. Kinda like when Sasha came back and Ginger told her she was glad they got paired up, but in the talking head segment she admitted it was a lie. While it's shady it's just some weird southern thing where they feel like they have to diffuse the situation with kindness even if it isn't true. I've never understood it either, but I can see why people would get so turned off by it.

Yeah, I'm from Detroit, and moved to Washington, DC about 6 years ago. While a lot of southerners would cut you for calling DC the south, to me, it's the south. People say y'all here.

This sort of behavior really threw me for a loop when I first moved here. Everybody has a huge smile plastered on their face when they first meet you, feed you endless compliments, and talk about how you MUST get together soon. It took me a while to figure out when people were being genuine. Back in Michigan, you don't compliment someone unless you truly mean it. And the more time I spent here, the more I noticed these southerners bad mouthing everybody the second they walked away.

I have a lot of great friends now, but I know to take things with a grain of salt more often than I'm inclined to.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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I'm just loving the Ginger and Katya smoking breaks.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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CaptainScraps posted:

Yep. I'll be there tomorrow. Super excited for Coco Peru and then Tammie Brown and Kelly Mantle are doing a thing together Saturday night that should be fun.

Do you know any lesser known queens I should check out?

What kind of stage show does Kelly Mantle do? Because her whole thing last season was that she was an actress, and not really a drag queen.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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While I want Katya to win, I suspect we're going to be seeing our first plus size queen in a Ginger win.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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Mouse Dresser posted:

I actually said "YAAASSSS KATYA YAAASSSSSS!" when she brought up True Lies. I loved Violet's very confused look, too.

Ugh. Yea. I feel like Violet was born the year True Lies came out. So of course she has no point of reference to it. I'm sure she knows who Arnold is, but Jamie Lee Curtis might be a little a bit of a haze to her.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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the truth posted:

This season sucked. Virtually no one had an endearing personality or any significant talent. Phi Phi O'Hara would have fit right in.

I've said it before, but I really think there is a chance that Ru is starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel for drag talent in this country. It's a niche industry. Just how many undiscovered queens are still waiting out there that they could cast a whole new season AND have clear standout talent? Ru might need to wait a few years for the talent pool to fill up again.

As for why Kennedy won over Katya - Katya's outfit was better, Katya's lipsync was better, Katya's performance overall all season has been better. Again, I've said it before, Ru loves a ghetto queen, and Kennedy has been delivering that all season. Shangela, Coco Montrese, we've seen it before, queens lasting around for far longer than they should because a ghetto queen just makes Ru lose her absolute poo poo.

It's becoming pretty clear why the season was so delayed in its airing. It was discussed a lot that it was possibly due to Michelle Visage being on Celebrity Big Brother UK, but that never made sense to me. It's not like she has been hitting the talk show circuit to hype it up.

It's because this is a lackluster season, and Ru and World of Wonder were struggling to edit the season into something worth watching.

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Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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I take it next week is a recap, and the following is the "live" finale?

What a lackluster season.

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Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

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BIG CITY LAWYER posted:

That final lipsync in general was zzzzzzz. Zzzzzzzzzz :geno:

Ah well.

Every lip sync this season was zzzzzzz.

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