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slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

DrakeriderCa posted:

Thanks for this. I'm sure I'll be divorced shortly and then I can finally get a 912. :unsmith:

But as much as I'd absolutely love one I really can't do it right now. The wife isn't open to fun cars until we have more garage space and money.

Come back... never!

:smith:

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slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

As a non-Porsche guy, how much of a disaster would this be? I would prefer a coupe but..

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/medicine-hat/porsche-911-carrera/1154013383?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

quote:

Super car in great shape. Has rebuilt transmission new rear window in soft top new battery and alternator, brakes really all of the service items have been done. Have hard and soft tops. Never winter driven


On tablet will paste ad photo later

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

So I am very seriously considering this car. Just took it for a drive and it pulls really well and feels tight. Interior has a bit of wear, nothing serious. Exterior looks better than I would expect a car with 130K on it. I am not a fan of the color, but it does look better in person. It was originally a Southern US car and it shows, the underside of it is spotless. No leaks and doesn't burn oil. Front bumper needed to be painted because he took out a bird which spidered the paint or something. A very good but not perfect match.

All dealer serviced. Brakes were just done, transmission was rebuilt a couple years ago due to a bad 2nd synchro or something, but the 6 speed shifts well and no concerns with that. Dealer redid the cooling system (reservoir, pump) recently too.

Only thing that is giving me pause is I don't know the status of the intermediate shaft bearing. I am trying to see what the owner knows about it. If he doesn't think it's done that is probably going to be a deal breaker. Thoughts?

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

The guy knows for a fact it's not done which is a real pity because he just had the transmission redone a while back. Why on earth they wouldn't do it then I don't know but dude says that Porsche told him "it's overblown and all because of some viral stuff on the internet" which, the guy believed but I'm sure Porsche won't be paying for it if he kills his engine.

I even have Mrs. Slidebite tepidly on side because I genuinely think that they're really not going to depreciate much, and likely appreciate in the coming years.

If he drops his price $3K I'd consider it,

BUT

I just saw this

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/calgary/1999-manual-911-c2/1174587266?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

Which, being a black coupe is more what I would want anyhow.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

I got a hold of the dude with the black 996 and he took a photo of the Porsche inspection report so dude is honest which is nice. Nothing huge, but lots of little things. Biggest is probably all 4 shocks/struts, possible rod ends, alternator not putting out full amps, something about the headlight being "burnt" or something and the steering wheel not centered.

Sounds like it was owned by someone who couldn't afford upkeep

Don't. Know.

e: Hood struts, not suspension struts so not as big of a deal. Biggest mechanical issues are some play in rod ends, needs a battery and alternator not doing full amps. I'm a little scared but the prospect of 911 ownership is pretty appealing.

slidebite fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Jun 23, 2016

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Thanks very much, found a legit online source for that mag and read the article you mention. Fairly interesting. Seems the worst issue is scoring and that the early 996s are pretty much immune. I'd still be likely to do the IMS preventatively on a clutch job, but it's good to know.

In other news, saw that black 996. And it looks really good. It has an honest 112K on it, but aged very well and the interior is almost spotless. The upgraded "sport" seats are much nicer than the standards and the car seemed really tight. Pretty minimaist with factory upgrades other than the seats and high end OEM stereo (yay for late 90s CD head units). But everything it does have all works, climate control, cruise, original stereo, everything. The Porsche PPI which he got on his own ($450) highlighted only a few problems. Most serious of which include the alternator which is not pushing out full amps, and some chuckle-gently caress installed some aftermarket HIDZ or something and burn the inside headlight lens, new battery needed and a couple of genuinely not huge things (hood support struts) but the rest of the car is very clean. Not as clean on the underside as that ex-southern US cabriolet but nothing a good clean up couldn't fix. No oil leaks I could see and not burning anything.

I might be making an offer on this car. It's pretty much exactly what I want.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Yeah.


e: What do you think a realistic knock-off for asking price for the alternator and headlight lenses (inside part of lens, not the outside) would be? I'd also want to do the water pump/flush as he said he hasn't done it himself.

$2-3K?

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Good to know. I see a set of left/right on ebay for $350 so that might be something to consider. I've got my US box and it's less than 1 hr away so that's good.. but a good $$ point if nothing else.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Just to be clear, it's not the outside part that flows with the body, it's the vertical "lens" underneath it immediately next to the bulb. I haven't been able to find that "lens" with my short amount of searching either. An ebay used assembly might be the best way to go.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Yeah, that makes sense and what I'm seeing. If I buy it new (or more likely used) assembly is probably the route. I actually don't have a big hate for the orange signal lights. It kind of works with the black car.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Well, that's certainly a thing

Maybe it comes with a car, or two.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

You and your enabling. I might take you up on that. I need to jump a couple hoops to be safe but I think I should know tomorrow.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Whelp I have know entered the realm of the cheapest 911 ownership.

Already ordered trunk and rear deck shock supports and some excellent looking used headlights to replace the ones the original owner burnt up with HIDZ or something.

Definitely not perfect, but the interior darn near is. Paint is about an 7.5/10 with the black showing an honest 17 years of wear. Interior is a 9.5/10. Fairly light in the options area except some very nice sport seats and a factory CD unit/speakers which still sound shockingly good. Runs very well and interior is rattle free.

Sorry about crappy cell pics but it was a long day yesterday.



slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Octane question. Supposedly the carerra wants 93 octane but the only thing higher than 91 that I can find has some methanol (94). Is that a problem?

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Powershift posted:

Not at 3000 feet. You could probably get away with costco's 89. Don't put husky 94 in, it gets the 94 from piles of ethanol.

It being an old porsche, esso or shell 91 is probably your best bet

Spoke to the guy who owned it and he said there was a Petro-can near him which had 94 and he used it.. pretty sure that stuff would be ethanoled up too.

I see your point though, considering my altitude and I'll never likely drive it through any high mountain passes or anything, I'll probably stick with good premium. I think Costco has 91. Who is the best for less/no ethanol?

Also, Oil question. Mobil 1 Synthetic the way to go as :siren: RECOMMENDED BY PORSCHE???? :siren:

PO said he used Motul 5W40

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Lol drive regularly. 5k in 2 years but gently caress me she runs well. I have an Esso 1 block away I'll just do premium fills there I think.
E: Jamal let's finally do a beer next weekend

slidebite fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Jun 29, 2016

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

The throwout bearing isn't a crazy idea although for it to actually "grind" it's going to be in a bad way. In my experience they'll make a little noise but not as scary like squeaking or something before it gets to that stage, but who knows. How old is it?

Also, regarding that 05 Boxster where is it from and was it winter driven with that many miles? What was the IMS situation for Boxsters of that vintage?

In other news, got the 911 back and caught up with my immediate maintenance needs (headlights, front tires, bringing the paint back) and started ordering maintenance parts.

Plugs, belt, fuel filter, IMS cam chain tensioner (noisy at start up, supposedly super common but scares me so I'm doing it) and I'm also going to get an AOS for it since I don't think it was ever done and see some oil/dirty residue around the throttle body and boots.

Did flip through the old records and found that the cooling tank was done by the dealer about 30K ago, so knock on wood I'll be OK there. Got the Bentley manual for it and I'm pretty impressed with their depth.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

On my phone but quick googling of 2005 Boxster IMS shows failures appear to be pretty common. If you can get a good deal might be worthwhile and check it out but caveat emptor

E:"common" is relative

slidebite fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Jul 18, 2016

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

I can't speak for the Boxster but generic advice is to get it checked out at a good independent mechanic for a PPI.

Barring that, check for the regular car things and check Porsche/german specific issues like cooling tank weepage and AOS symptoms (wet around throttle body and boots).

Keep in mind, and I swiftly discovered this as a new 911 owner, other than the normal maintenance items, parts can be shockingly expensive. Maintenance items aren't really that bad though. Hope to Christ you never have to tear into that motor due to a failure. Just be aware of what you're getting in to with the price of admission. The build quality of the cars though are top knotch. I am still shocked that my 99 911 is as quiet and rattle free as it is. Literally amazingly so and it drives like a new car.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Is it a Canadian spec car or US? Maintenance records?

Did you look for leaks, RMS or anything like that?

Ask to do a cold start, preferably 24 hours+ when you go to get it.

I'd be optimistic that with that many miles the IMS should be OK but it's really a crapshoot. Do an oilchange and get a magentic drain plug if it doesn't have one already.

Take a photo of the build tag underside the frunk for all the option codes.

If it's like the 911, front and rear speakers are supposedly an easy 3.5" fit.

Congrats on porch ownership :hfive:

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Was it a dealer?

Porsche A40 rated Synthetic. Mobil 1 is what is "officially" recommended but Castrol Edge is rated and just fine, arguable better (Mobile 1 doesn't have a ton of fans in Porsche land from what I have seen) and can be found on sale at Crappy periodically. Just was 2 weeks ago for $32 for a 5L.

Buying a non-detailed record porch isn't the end of the world if the price reflects it. I think you did OK based on the miles and lack of records. I'd like to see some more pics though. :)

Planning on trying to flip it or drive it for a year or two and see how it grows on you?

Also, for $$$ access as I am a PCF account holder too. I found the easiest way to just have a LOC with another local brick and mortar institution. I have one with TD. Go to the local bank, get my draft, walk 20' to the ATM, deposit a check from my PCF acct. Done and never get charged a dime of interest and they always seem to waive the draft fee too so it literally costs me nothing to borrow the money.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

No problem at all dude. One last piece of advice: Don't go on Rennlist too much. It's mostly made up of people having issues and will give you an ulcer just because you'll start waiting for said disasters to fall on you. That said it's a great resource and Pelican Parts has some really good how-to guides as well. I was going to say this manual but I noticed it stops at 2004 :(. I have one for my 911 and I was pleasantly surprised.

Take photos of yours and I'll take photos of mine :haw:

I realize I really haven't taken much for photos either

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Oh hell yeah, I was wondering about you today.

Post some pics when you get a chance! Congrats! :)

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Bajaha posted:

Picture time!

Where is the option code sticker? Or what does it look like, couldn't find it on the fronk lid.

E: and these are the second set of wheels it came with:
Awesome man, good score. The spare wheels are great and the car does look really good. Congrats! You could probably sell those twists for the better part of $1K on their own if they're in good shape and wanted to.

e: Out of curiousity, what does it call for octane? 93?

At risk of cross-posting, I just posted some photos in the Alberta AI thread... but probably make more sense here because, well, Porch thread :downs:

The build codes/options is the big white square on the underside of the frunk (you can see in photo). I just assumed Boxsters would have it in the same place.. but maybe not?

slidebite posted:













For some reason I love seeing the rear quarters in the side mirrors, reminds you of what you're driving. :cool:


Mine is pretty light on options. Off the top of my head:
Sport Seats
Computer info center
Cruise
Hifi stereo (yeah)
18" Turbo twist wheels
.. and I think that's darn near it for options. It is a pretty base model Canadian spec car which on it's own is fairly rare, the vast majority I've seen are either US imports or from ROW (Japan) markets.

AC blows awesome cold and everything works great. Cruise works like a champ if a little different from every other vehicle I've ever driven.

Blew Mrs. Slidebite away when I told her there was such thing as rear fog lights and the 911 had them.

I have put new(used) headlight assemblies, rear deck and frunk gas supports, new front tires to match the PO as new rears (Potenza RE71R..sticky as hell) and ordered various other maintenance parts which are coming in imminently.

slidebite fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Jul 21, 2016

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Bajaha posted:

Found the option sticker, wasn't on the car, was in the maintenance manual:



this is what I was able to decode:

233
Internal production code related to tyres

288
Headlamp washer

342
Seat heating

397
18" Boxster 987.1 S wheels

446
Wheel caps with colored Porsche crest

502
Produced at Valmet plant in Uusikaupunki, Finland

551
Wind deflector

584
Storage box on engine cover

601
Xenon

Any ideas what CO2 means in there?
C02 means equipped with a catalytic converter.

Headlight washers and xenons are a nice touch.

Made at Valmet in Finland? That's kind of cool.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Residency Evil posted:

Check this out:

http://admin.porschedealer.com/reports/build_sheets/print.php?vin=XXX

Put the VIN in place of XXX and you should be able to get access to the full option list.

Doesn't work for me :(

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

So, for those of you that don't know, I'm a "Certified Bearing Specialist" with 25 years experience in the industry. As such, and considering I now own a car that seems to have a reputation of bearing issues, I'm trying to do a bit of a deep-dive on the bearings that Porsche has been using for the IMS, specifically on the 996/986/M96-family.

The little bit of info I've dug up so far is frankly damning at its surface but I don't want to make any judgments because everything I've read so far is from people that might not know what they're talking about. IE: when spewing off bearing part numbers and info isn't as simple as it seems because, for example, just because a bearing has a number on it doesn't necessarily mean that's actually what the bearing is.

Anyone here know of a good resource for a guy wanting to do a deep dive on the subject? I've sort of skimmed over some recent threads in Rennlist but I am I having a hard time finding good hard info. I know Porsche had a class action suit against it for this, I would think the court case should have had some technical info maybe?

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

I hope so for your sake. The tried and true method of replacement parts roulette gets horrifingly expensive very quickly when working on the children of Zuffenhausen.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

So my weekend is planned for some maintenance



Shown:

Air oil separator (maintenance - easily the biggest job)
2 motor mounts (exhaust tips aren't as close to bumper as they should be - common issue/maintenance)
3rd brake light for retractable spoiler (cracked and built as cheap as gently caress for a Porsche part)
Clips for above
Retractable rubber accordion spoiler wall (tear which happens as they age)
Various clips and doo-dads for above
Fuel filter
Boots for throttle body (old ones are oil covered - likely from aging AOS)
Timing chain tensioner (motor sounds like skeleton masturbating in a filing cabinet for a second until tensioner pressures up but is SUPPOSEDLY NORMAL. gently caress that)
Grommet for air filter housing
L&R front corner markers next to headlight (originals cracked on back)

Not shown:

6 Bosch sparkplugs
Oil Filter
Serpentine Belt
10L of Castrol Edge 5W40
4L of Porsche Unicorn blood for the transmission
Porsche OEM 74.4MM oil filter wrench

Already done:
Cabin air filter
Engine air filter

slidebite fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Jul 30, 2016

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Probably mean it's not a 30 second change, hence effort. You are talking about Porsche owners after all.

I'd normally go by the manual, but if you're getting conflicting info I'd just pull one and look to be safe.

If they're H11, I liked my Osram Nightbreakers I used in my 4Runner, but the longevity wasn't great.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Take a few minutes and pull the bulb man, use it as practice to replace it if nothing else.

IIRC H8 and 11 are pretty much interchangeable worst case, but still, just pull the bulb.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Big work day on the 911. Biggest shockers were (in no particular order)

Needing a 3' breaker bar to break loose the transmission drain and fill plug. Supposed to be 22ft/lb but probably hasn't been cracked for god only knows how long.

Also needing a breaker bar (and an impromptu trip to the store for a 32mm socket) for my IMS chain tensioner.

NOT needing a breaker bar on the motor mounts.

Fuel filter was drat near impossible to maneuver and what I thought would be a 45 minute job turned into a multi hour epic with all sorts of colorful words and gasoline everywhere. Pretty sure parents were covering ears of children walking by.

I was prepared for the 9.25 liters of oil the engine held. What I was NOT prepared for was the efficency that the motor drained. It was all out in about 10 seconds overwhelming my pan giving me an accurate recreation of Prince William Sound in my garage and Porch doing a very covencing Exxon Valdez. I am not too sure how to do it in the future.

The underside sheet metal on 911s are magic. Literally not even the slightest hint of corrosion at all. Anywhere. Brand new.

I am fat and out of shape. Yeah it was 32c and a little hungover but I sweated like crazy, through my shirt, through my coveralls, leaving wet spots on the floor as I worked. I have never sweat so much in my life working on a car and had to actually change my clothes under my coveralls in the middle of the job.

Also screwed myself by not following my own rule. When you think you have it jacked high enough, go a few more inches. I couldnt even use my creeper.

E: Also no weeping or anything to indicate an issue with ims or rms. I could however see some wet dirt around the bottom of the aos so I think I will be doing that in the coming weeks. I did buy one just in case but it's a bear of a job.

slidebite fucked around with this message at 06:51 on Jul 31, 2016

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

GOD BLESS HOT DIP GALVANIZING then!

IOwnCalculus posted:

My old man once told me a story about either himself or one of his friends (I can't recall which and they both owned air-cooled 911s at the time) encountering that very same problem the first time they used a sealable oil pan. Unless you can find a sealable pan that can flow like mad going in, you'll probably be best off either vacuuming it out, or using an old school open pan and transferring it to another container to recycle.
It's funny, it literally never even occurred to me before as being a potential issue. I've done countless cars before hand and sure, once or twice got close to the brim, but no spillage. I don't know if it is because it has 2x the oil and/or the head of all that oil pushing itself out of what. I agree though, I'll go with it into a big open pan and then just transfer it.

DrakeriderCa posted:

You've earned yourself a beer
I would have given myself heatstroke yesterday if I was drinking :(

Besides, like I said I'm fat and out of shape. You're trying to off me, aren't you?

Upcoming AOS procedure. Gah, looks like I need to remove one of the intake manifolds. I was really hoping I wouldn't need to do that. I always have nightmares of crap falling to the head whenever I do that.

Oh well.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Sunabitch wants my porch and guns.

Finished project 911 maintenance. Literally only thing left to do is the AOS as far as I am concerned and once that is done, I'd say the car is caught up and a well sorted 911.

Took it out for a flog after everything was done and I am sure I'm preaching to the choir here since I'm obviously not the only one with one, but gently caress me these things sound good when you get it between 5500-7000. It just howls and I can't not grin ear to ear when I do that. I am more than satisfied with my NA, I can't imagine how much of a rocket ship a Turbo must feel and sound like but I am not sure I'd want to work on it. This is tight enough for me.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Bajaha posted:

Do it. Boxster/Cayman should be a pretty great daily as far as two seater sports cars go.

Anybody know any good Porsche used parts classifieds? Trying to see what's out there in terms of used parts and it seems like the renlist and planet 9 classifieds move really slow.

That and ebay is about it unless you fluke on Kijiji. There is a Porsche wrecker in Onterrible, but their prices are crazy. They wanted $600 each for a used headlamp assembly for my 911 when I bought a pair for $450 CDN on ebay.

I buy almost everything from Pelican or Suncoast and just drop it to my Montana box.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Congrats guys!

Am I the only one that thinks it looks sort of stupid when people have their speed-controlled spoiler over-ridden so it's always up even when stopped?

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Hey Bajaha, when you did your waterpump what did you end up using for coolant that is compatible with the Porsche unicorn blood? Or did you just save the old stuff?

I am doing my AOS in the coming week(s) and I'm sure I'll lose some, but Pentosin goes for something like $20/L which is crazy.

slidebite fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Sep 25, 2016

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Nah if you did a full change I'm sure it's fine. I might do the same. Supposedly the Porsche unicorn blood doesn't play nice with standard mass market silicate coolants. Supposedly. The OEM stuff is sort of pinky-orange.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Crappy Tire has premix VW/Audi/Porsche for $20.00 for 3.78L. I'll probably just try that stuff if I need to top-up.

http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/oem-vehicle-specific-coolant-volkswagon-audi-pre-mixed-0293085p.html

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slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

I would be surprised if they didn't use the original transaxle. I read some threads on the 911 forums and that's what happens with the LT1 conversions as the OEM transaxles are very tough. It's not nearly as cheap and easy as people make it out to be though although probably cheaper than putting in a new flat 6.

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