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Fine. gently caress you guys. Somber's confrontational scum. Hal's pretending-to-contribute scum. KingB is basically confirmed town, just being a doofus. I forgot Fast Luck was playing at all. Look into him as lurker scum.
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Poison Mushroom posted:Wait, what? MT has a couple posts about it that convinced me. I'm sure you've seen them.
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I can't really, in any fairness, comment on the honesty or fakeness of MT's posts. She always pings me as scum, and I'm never sure why. You're still making a mistake, though.
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Somber still looks awful. Not that I've played hundreds of games with him, but he got p. unhinged there. I wish to clarify this for Meinberg to allay his concerns here: Meinberg posted:And here he is, advocating for a lurker vote out, not caring whether said lurker is town or not: in regards to: Epsilon Plus posted:Also my room has one lurker and I'm in favor of hitting a lurker instead of Somber if possible. Assuming no scum PRs that would interfere, killing town will statistically put a ballot in town hands more often than not. Offing lurkers is more beneficial than normal, I think. Obviously I care who's town, for starters; if you think I'd care otherwise, even as scum, you're a bit silly. My point was that any kill's a good kill, in that killed players will distribute their ballots randomly. We still want to hit scum but we have 0% risk of hitting, say, the town's only cop. Lurking does not assist the town, and especially so in a game where there are no "PRs" to kill. Moreover, a possible scum tactic would be to pass their votes to a lurker in the hopes that they... lurk... and fail to use their votes, passing them randomly (hopefully to another scum). I would not feel bad about killing a lurker tomorrow if we can't get Somber tomorrow. I really do think he's reacting poorly!
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jon joe posted:Will vote pmush to avoid nolynch, but prefer hal (and more prefer bigger lurkers) Beaten on this, but wanted to add my own commentary. Convince me to vote Hal over Pmush. I'm still waffling and I'll think about it.
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Whoa PMush don't front, I'm not even pretending to contribute. I agree with everyone saying that somber is scummy though.
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Hal jumped right into the middle of the scumminess conversation with exactly one post, didn't vote the person he had reasons for, then kinda just made some white noise, then dropped votes on Somber then me, both of them really obvious  votes.If you lynch me, at least cop him or something, for gently caress's sake.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:47
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Poison Mushroom posted:Fine. gently caress you guys. I don't really think Fast Luck has been lurking. Why would King possibly be confirmed town? Sorry ya'll, I got caught up doing chores and playing Orc Pokemon.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:47
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Somberbrero posted:I don't really think Fast Luck has been lurking. Why would King possibly be confirmed town?
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King Burgundy posted:Beaten on this, but wanted to add my own commentary. Hal is lurker without substantial opinions. PMush has more opinions. Hal > Pmush 4 scum.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:48
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Epsilon Plus posted:My point was that any kill's a good kill uhhhhh
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jon joe posted:Hal is lurker without substantial opinions. PMush has more opinions. Hal > Pmush 4 scum. ##vote Hal I'm going to keep everyone guessing until deadline. 10 minutes!
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Mar 10, 2015 04:49
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Poison Mushroom posted:Hal jumped right into the middle of the scumminess conversation with exactly one post, didn't vote the person he had reasons for, then kinda just made some white noise, then dropped votes on Somber then me, both of them really obvious Well duh I'm obviously going to put my vote wherever it needs to be to keep me from being killed. I know I'm town, I don't have anything other than notions of what everyone else is. I'm not trying to pretend otherwise. I think Somber would be a better vote than you, Little Mac would about the same as you and Hiipfire would be my top choice since I don't feel like I am deep enough into this game to feel great about any of that.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:49
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Poison Mushroom posted:KingB is replacing for Asiina. Note that she did replace out though.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:50
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Hal Incandenza posted:Well duh I'm obviously going to put my vote wherever it needs to be to keep me from being killed. Hal is a Survivor.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:50
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Poison Mushroom posted:I stand corrected. Hal is not scum. What
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Mar 10, 2015 04:51
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##vote Poison Mushroom Not feeling a Hal vote.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:51
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Poison Mushroom posted:I stand corrected. Hal is not scum. lol
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Mar 10, 2015 04:51
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Somberbrero posted:Note that she did replace out though. Do you honestly not think Asiina was town? For real? What Asiina did was the towniest thing I've ever seen. Before I replaced in I knew she was town with confidence.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:51
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Little Mac posted:What
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Poison Mushroom posted:He's concerned with self-preservation. But scum wouldn't be that obvious about it. The only reason to make it that obvious is if he's breadcrumbing for a later Survivor claim. I mean, I think he's just voting to keep himself alive. Immediately jumping to survivor is a big jump to make. There are some pretty insane things being said in this last hour, just saying!
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Mar 10, 2015 04:53
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Asiina didn't do any scumhunting.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:53
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Mafia edit: Concerned primarily. Everyone wants to keep playing, obviously, but Hal just admitted that he's not voting to find scum, he's voting to survive.
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Somberbrero posted:Asiina didn't do any scumhunting.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:54
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Somberbrero posted:Asiina didn't do any scumhunting. Hahahah, oh man. If it wasn't too late to switch to you, I would. You are loving ridiculous.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:54
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Little Mac posted:I mean, I think he's just voting to keep himself alive. Immediately jumping to survivor is a big jump to make. Yeah, what else would you do in a plurality situation when you are the leading vote getter? I mean I just assume we are all vanilla so no reason to lay down for anyone.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:54
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Asiina posted:gently caress it, I'm not going to spend time with a bunch of whiners who aren't even going to try because it might be hard ##vote Somberbrero From hell's heart, I stab at thee. For town's sake, I spit my last vote at thee.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:55
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Somber is really mad town.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:55
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Please show me a post where Asiina gave alignment calls.
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Somberbrero posted:Asiina didn't do any scumhunting. Her meltdown was the most real, visceral frustrated townie meltdown I've ever seen. I doubt scum would quit the game because people wouldn't work together to break the game and win. KB is not 100% confirmed or anything but on day one that's as close as we're getting imo
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Mar 10, 2015 04:55
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This is ridiculous. ##vote Somber
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Mar 10, 2015 04:56
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I'm not mad, I just don't know what game most of you are playing. I don't think it's Mafia. I'm super confused as to why disagreement about subjective stuff, essentially whether or not you think MMM made an easily broken game, is indicative of alignment.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:57
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Somberbrero posted:I'm not mad, I just don't know what game most of you are playing. I don't think it's Mafia. I'm super confused as to why disagreement about subjective stuff, essentially whether or not you think MMM made an easily broken game, is indicative of alignment. It's not. 
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Somberbrero posted:I'm not mad, I just don't know what game most of you are playing. I don't think it's Mafia. I'm super confused as to why disagreement about subjective stuff, essentially whether or not you think MMM made an easily broken game, is indicative of alignment. There is no way you've been playing mafia all this time and not realized that the tone behind peoples posts. WHY they are posting things. Is the most important thing there is.
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Hal Incandenza posted:I think Somber would be a better vote than you Hal confirmed for Somber's scumbro. If you don't lynch one of them tomorrow, you all deserve to lose.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:58
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Why would a scum player meltdown and quit because town wouldn't work together? Unless she was going to quit all along and faked the meltdown to build town cred for her replacement. I don't believe that, though, that's just the only possible way she could be scum.
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Poison Mushroom posted:Well, Hal? You're the linchpin on Somber getting executed over me. Yet you're nowhere to be found all of a sudden. Little Mac posted:...a big jump to make.
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Little Mac posted:Her meltdown was the most real, visceral frustrated townie meltdown I've ever seen. I doubt scum would quit the game because people wouldn't work together to break the game and win. KB is not 100% confirmed or anything but on day one that's as close as we're getting imo I've worked to 'break the game' multiple times as scum. It's not hard to fake. Emotionality is a tool used by bad town and good scum. Asiina hates playing scum and I don't see her abandoning the game as necessarily town play. What, she just got so mad that I disagreed with her speculation that she had to leave? Couldn't she have called someone, anyone, scum before she did that?
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