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Caganer
Feb 15, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 15 hours!


I'm on S2E4 of Luke Cage. Does anyone have trouble suspending disbelief in the scenes with Macklemore (or whatever the gently caress his name is) and his cougar GF? The acting is just... odd.

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Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006



Iím not much further and I canít tell if itís bad chemistry between the actors, or the actors playing bad chemistry between the characters.

docbeard
Jul 18, 2011

High marks for compassion, low marks for survival skills





Aphrodite posted:

Iím not much further and I canít tell if itís bad chemistry between the actors, or the actors playing bad chemistry between the characters.

I think at least the actors knew drat well they had no natural chemistry together and just rolled with it. I don't know, I think it works, and makes that a much more interesting relationship than it might otherwise have been.

Caganer
Feb 15, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 15 hours!


docbeard posted:

I think at least the actors knew drat well they had no natural chemistry together and just rolled with it. I don't know, I think it works, and makes that a much more interesting relationship than it might otherwise have been.

he's also bad at acting away from his cougar imho

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I just *LOVE* spoonheads

docbeard posted:

I think at least the actors knew drat well they had no natural chemistry together and just rolled with it. I don't know, I think it works, and makes that a much more interesting relationship than it might otherwise have been.

It's certainly a plot point that there's no actual chemistry between the characters - the show knows it as well as the viewer.

Caganer
Feb 15, 2018
Probation
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Cythereal posted:

It's certainly a plot point that there's no actual chemistry between the characters - the show knows it as well as the viewer.

[awkwardly rubs partner overlooking a nightclub while glaring]

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.


Yeah, I remain of the notion that the lack of chemistry was worked in if not intentional. We weren't supposed to look at Mariah and Shades and say "that's a good couple." We were supposed to be disgusted. That's why one of the first scenes of them this season was a waiter calling him her nephew and her sucking his fingers in response while every squirmed.

Like in nearly every scene where the two of them make out there's a shot of someone cringing. It was intentional.

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011

DON'T LET THIS PICTURE OF AN ADORABLE KITTEN FOOL YOU INTO THINKING I'M NOT AN INSUFFERABLE AUTIST

The basis of their relationship is the fact that nothing is more heterosexual than a man penetrating a woman, and as we all know Shades is nothing if not heterosexual.

Serf
May 5, 2011








Caganer posted:

he's also bad at acting away from his cougar imho

i found this to not be true. especially later on he gets some amazing scenes with other actors

Zerilan
Jan 11, 2008

I have to believe I can do this.



Got like 3 eps into IF and no real interest in finishing it, but I did like Luke Cage s1 and I guess Danny is in s2?

Is there a good summary of what I should know from IF s1 and Defenders if I want to just skip to LCs2?

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011

DON'T LET THIS PICTURE OF AN ADORABLE KITTEN FOOL YOU INTO THINKING I'M NOT AN INSUFFERABLE AUTIST

Danny is an idiot.

Dead serious, that's all you need to know. Danny is an idiot and everyone constantly dunks on him in every single show he's on.

Parkingtigers
Feb 23, 2008
TARGET CONSUMER
LOVES EVERY FUCKING GAME EVER MADE. EVER.


Zerilan posted:

Is there a good summary of what I should know from IF s1 and Defenders if I want to just skip to LCs2?

Colleen Wing steals the show (she's great) and Danny is an idiot. And a whiny privileged manbaby. You really can skip Iron Fist and lose nothing.

I'd still say watch Defenders because while The Hand end up sucking you get a lot of good stuff between the 4 heroes, mostly dunking by on Danny, and there's stuff there with Misty that sets up LCS2.

Lurdiak
Feb 25, 2006

I do not like to see you post.


There's like 2 scenes of Danny and Luke talking that are kinda fun and Kristen Ritter keeps doing canned one liners about Daredevil's costume and that's it. Skip Defenders, every single scene is so loving awkwardly written and dull.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUDXCqJjMzA

Could you possibly write more unnatural-sounding dialogue.

Also Misty's hair in Defenders is a crime.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.

Dawgstar posted:

Including Sigourney Weaver. I mean... I guess they were happy to have her? Did they think to blind us 'OH IT'S RIPLEY YA'LL!' to distract from the fact she always comes off as bored (as opposed to the jaded ennui of the immortal which I think they were going for)? And they they were like 'eh whatever just bring back the Iron Fist guy.'

She's just pining for Constantinople.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.

Oh sorry, I mean.... *glances around the room suspiciously* Istanbul.

God some of the dialog they gave her was so bad.

Caganer
Feb 15, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 15 hours!


Lurdiak posted:

There's like 2 scenes of Danny and Luke talking that are kinda fun and Kristen Ritter keeps doing canned one liners about Daredevil's costume and that's it. Skip Defenders, every single scene is so loving awkwardly written and dull.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUDXCqJjMzA

Could you possibly write more unnatural-sounding dialogue.

Also Misty's hair in Defenders is a crime.



I think itís cute

TheHan
Oct 29, 2011

Grind, you poor fool!
Grind straight for the stars!

counterfeitsaint posted:

Oh sorry, I mean.... *glances around the room suspiciously* Istanbul.

God some of the dialog they gave her was so bad.

I thought it was hilarious she pulled the "um, actually" several times.


Also just finished Luke Cage S2, I like what they're setting up for S3 but it kinda felt like they didn't know what to do with this last episode and spun their wheels for a bit trying to buy time for the next season hook. The scene where Mariah is about to be killed by two inmates, then those inmates are killed by two other inmates, and it looks like they're gonna kill her but no they're gonna let her live, but then she kills that inmate and buys the other two inmates was ridiculous. Even more so when Mariah died anyways.

I Love Loosies
Jan 4, 2013




Serf posted:

i found this to not be true. especially later on he gets some amazing scenes with other actors

Yeah. His confession scene is fantastic. He is just so stoked that he can tell somebody about all the awesome murder he committed/witnessed

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.


TheHan posted:

Also just finished Luke Cage S2, I like what they're setting up for S3 but it kinda felt like they didn't know what to do with this last episode and spun their wheels for a bit trying to buy time for the next season hook. The scene where Mariah is about to be killed by two inmates, then those inmates are killed by two other inmates, and it looks like they're gonna kill her but no they're gonna let her live, but then she kills that inmate and buys the other two inmates was ridiculous. Even more so when Mariah died anyways.

That scene was so funny I thought they did it on purpose. I thought Mariah was going to call a third set of goons to kill the second two, and then maybe a fourth set of goons to put her back in danger. And then she's just like "and clean up this mess!" Bitch, they're in prison. The gently caress they gonna do with five dead bodies?

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

For that you get the head...

the tail...

the whole damned thing.

Mulva posted:

Danny is an idiot.

Dead serious, that's all you need to know. Danny is an idiot and everyone constantly dunks on him in every single show he's on.

An idiot who can't loving fight. Seriously, and it's probably been mentioned, but why not just slap the mask on him and let a stunt double do his fights? The mask is cool looking to start with and having a dude who can actually fake fight would help matters tremendously.

TheHan
Oct 29, 2011

Grind, you poor fool!
Grind straight for the stars!

I feel like Danny keeps mentioning that dragon fight to trick people into watching Iron Fist, does he actually fight a dragon? Seeing the FX in all the better Netflix Marvel shows it couldn't have looked any better than absolute dogshit.

Serf
May 5, 2011








i finished rewatching iron fist and its kinda wild how much better the meachums are than danny's entire deal. the whole show is like watching a grown-up child throw tantrums and get constantly rewarded for his petulance. its just really loving stupid.

Inkspot
Dec 3, 2013

I believe I have
an appointment.
Mr. Goongala?


TheHan posted:

I feel like Danny keeps mentioning that dragon fight to trick people into watching Iron Fist, does he actually fight a dragon? Seeing the FX in all the better Netflix Marvel shows it couldn't have looked any better than absolute dogshit.

HA HA HA HA HA!!!! Why would they put a dragon in a kung fu show where the protagonist's origin hinges on him fighting a dragon?

Field Mousepad
Mar 21, 2010
BAE

Yeah you never actually see anything with the dragon but boy does Danny talk about it a lot. I mean a lot.

PaybackJack
May 21, 2003

...as much revenge as any man could possibly take.


It's one of the worst moments of the show because even in the final showdown there's a moment where you're like "oh poo poo, here comes the flashback where he fights the Dragon!"...and nothing.

docbeard
Jul 18, 2011

High marks for compassion, low marks for survival skills





Zerilan posted:

Got like 3 eps into IF and no real interest in finishing it, but I did like Luke Cage s1 and I guess Danny is in s2?

Is there a good summary of what I should know from IF s1 and Defenders if I want to just skip to LCs2?

I think the only thing that hasn't been mentioned is that the reason Luke's out of prison after S1 is because Foggy gets him released in Defenders.

And Danny is like a thousand times better in his Luke Cage S2 episode than he is anywhere else. (Even if the actor cannot do a fight scene to save his life, which kind of seems like a thing you'd look at when casting a martial artist superhero.)

docbeard
Jul 18, 2011

High marks for compassion, low marks for survival skills





Seriously, I would happily watch Danny Rand: Zen Goofball instead of whatever the gently caress was going on in his series and Defenders.

Lurdiak
Feb 25, 2006

I do not like to see you post.


Caganer posted:

I think itís cute

Different strokes I guess, but I was really glad she went back to her old hairstyle in Luke Cage Season 2.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012
My incredible shitposting will not transform the xbone into a good console


Lipstick Apathy

It's funnier if nobody believes Danny about punching a dragon in the heart.

Tom Guycot
Oct 15, 2008

Chief of Governors


The best Danny ever was, was the first literal 5 minutes of IF, when he was just a shoeless zen hobo guy. Everything was downhill from there.

TheHan
Oct 29, 2011

Grind, you poor fool!
Grind straight for the stars!

PaybackJack posted:

It's one of the worst moments of the show because even in the final showdown there's a moment where you're like "oh poo poo, here comes the flashback where he fights the Dragon!"...and nothing.

Hahaha this is disgraceful.

moths
Aug 25, 2004



Caganer posted:

The acting is just... odd.

The show somewhat explains this by the end of the season. I think it's intentional.

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homullus
Mar 27, 2009



moths posted:

The show somewhat explains this by the end of the season. I think it's intentional.

Hypothesis: every mid-to-major character who stays in town is at least a little drunk on their influence or power, and stumbles.

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