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BiggerBoat posted:This. In the comics, she was a junkie and a porn actress. Really hoping they don't go with these plot points. I seriously doubt they will.
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Jonas Albrecht posted:Really hoping they don't go with these plot points. I seriously doubt they will. They will most likely go with the junkie part or something similar as it is part of one of Daredevil best and most famous storylines. His true identity is sold for some drugs and the Kingpin finds out about it. He then uses that info to destroy Matt's life.
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Apr 14, 2015 21:32
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bobkatt013 posted:They will most likely go with the junkie part or something similar as it is part of one of Daredevil best and most famous storylines. Yeah, Born Again is largely an good story with some lovely Frank Millerisms and hey, maybe a Captain America cameo. I do think it's better 3rd season material instead of 2nd, though.
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Apr 14, 2015 21:35
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Jonas Albrecht posted:Yeah, Born Again is largely an good story with some lovely Frank Millerisms and hey, maybe a Captain America cameo. I do think it's better 3rd season material instead of 2nd, though. That would be third or fourth. Second will be Elektra and the relationship with Karen. There would be no impact if she was just a coworker.
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Apr 14, 2015 21:38
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bobkatt013 posted:They will most likely go with the junkie part or something similar as it is part of one of Daredevil best and most famous storylines. Yeah, the allusions they made throughout the series about her former life really spell criminal junkie in large letters.
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Apr 14, 2015 21:39
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tsob posted:Wasn't it just that she shot someone else before Wesley, since I think she even flat out says during that scene that it isn't the first time she's shot someone. Granted, it could be a bluff I kind of assumed this was her going "I know what an empty gun feels like, dumbass."
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Apr 14, 2015 21:42
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bobkatt013 posted:That would be third or fourth. Second will be Elektra and the relationship with Karen. There would be no impact if she was just a coworker. Bring on that sweet mystical ninja poo poo. It's just not the full Daredevil experience without it.
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Apr 14, 2015 21:43
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I mainlined Daredevil and it was really good. It took me until I finished the series to realize that it was probably canon to the greater Marvel movieverse (a realization later proven correct). I thought all the little winks and nods to the existence to the other heroes were just that, but when I got to thinking I realized "poo poo, the 'incident' they were obliquely referencing was when loving aliens invaded, wasn't it" The show was so grounded in reality that it took me THAT long to piece that together.
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Apr 14, 2015 22:12
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One thing I did really like was Wesley's 'If he had a suit or a magic hammer' line. Obviously it was pretty funny but it kind of showed that despite the jaw dropping awesomness of the events in the MCU, essentially it just doesn't mean much to the people on the streets. The likes of Iron man and Captain America are basically like the Kardashians...everyone knows who they are and they seem to do a lot of things but they aren't really impacting anything on a real basis. It's a side of comics I've always been pretty interested in. I think it is in Civil War where there are quite a few allusions to the fact that for the average joe, they'd probably go their entire life without meeting a super hero despite the fact the world seems full of them. Makes you wonder who is making the biggest difference, people like Cap protecting the world from threats it never knows about or people like Daredevil who are stopping that kid getting sold to slavers.
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Apr 14, 2015 22:18
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Karen also made a joke about hitting the harder stuff in one of the later episodes.
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Apr 14, 2015 22:19
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Sorvah posted:Makes you wonder who is making the biggest difference, people like Cap protecting the world from threats it never knows about or people like Daredevil who are stopping that kid getting sold to slavers. Well, I mean, if Cap is keeping the world from getting blown up, however secret that is...
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Apr 14, 2015 22:20
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To be fair in Cap 2 it sounded like Hydra where really only a threat to other gifted individuals. Me? I'm bang average, I'd have been fine.
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Apr 14, 2015 22:24
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Sorvah posted:To be fair in Cap 2 it sounded like Hydra where really only a threat to other gifted individuals. Me? I'm bang average, I'd have been fine. Unless the computer program decided you were a threat.
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Apr 14, 2015 22:25
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Sorvah posted:Makes you wonder who is making the biggest difference, people like Cap protecting the world from threats it never knows about or people like Daredevil who are stopping that kid getting sold to slavers. Or people like Ben, who are trying to expose the kind of corporate problems that a superhero normally doesn't deal with unless there's a kingpin involved. Which is why I've always wanted to see a Batman story where he actually passes the cape on to one of his proteges and starts taking the business and charity aspect of his character more seriously because he realizes he can do more good for more people as Bruce Wayne than as Batman given that there are lots of folks who can punch good, but not as many socially minded billionaires. Sadly, it's unlikely to happen. Even Nolan's Dark Knight just hosed off to have a wife and kids in the middle of nowhere instead, and that's probably about as good a shot as anyone was likely to get. Batman Beyond's Bruce Wayne probably did it for a decade or two off-screen I suppose.
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Apr 14, 2015 22:25
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It's true, even on the ridiculous scale of things, for all the genius of your Reed Richards and Tony Starks the general quality of life seems to be just as poo poo in comics as it is in reality.
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Apr 14, 2015 22:27
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Rubiks Pubes posted:Karen also made a joke about hitting the harder stuff in one of the later episodes. I was amused/annoyed by Foggy's anti-weed PSA while they both try to drink themselves to death the whole season.
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Apr 14, 2015 22:29
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dj_clawson posted:I was amused/annoyed by Foggy's anti-weed PSA while they both try to drink themselves to death the whole season. Did you see him in college?
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bobkatt013 posted:Did you see him in college? That's why I totally did not believe he was not a chronic stoner, and possibly had done some shrums. Not buying it, writer of Daredevil.
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Apr 14, 2015 22:31
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Sorvah posted:It's true, even on the ridiculous scale of things, for all the genius of your Reed Richards and Tony Starks the general quality of life seems to be just as poo poo in comics as it is in reality. Worse actually because of all the supervillains.
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Apr 14, 2015 22:32
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Sorvah posted:To be fair in Cap 2 it sounded like Hydra where really only a threat to other gifted individuals. Me? I'm bang average, I'd have been fine. Nah, Hydra's protocol was going to eliminate literally anyone who ever googled the wrong thing. It had millions of targets just within the United States, if I recall correctly, including the President and Tony Stark. Not just every super-powered individual.
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Apr 14, 2015 22:34
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And whoever left would have to live under Hydra's rule, which isn't likely to be all that fun.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Worse actually because of all the supervillains. Someday there'll be a mental health professional who'll go to Arkham and not be insane or driven insane by the experience of working with disturbed patients. Or a state that will legislate execution for repeat offense super-villains and just given them a cyanide jab when they go to jail instead of a good night's sleep and a place to plan their next move. Or just some concerned citizens calling for such measures because they're tired of losing their homes to random attacks every few months. And someday the Avengers/FF might start advocating for mutant rights in an active manner by holding rallies and making tv appearances and poo poo, rather than just taking on some mutants occasionally and calling it a day. Really, their worlds are pretty loving lovely places to be living.
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tsob posted:Or people like Ben, who are trying to expose the kind of corporate problems that a superhero normally doesn't deal with unless there's a kingpin involved. Which is why I've always wanted to see a Batman story where he actually passes the cape on to one of his proteges and starts taking the business and charity aspect of his character more seriously because he realizes he can do more good for more people as Bruce Wayne than as Batman given that there are lots of folks who can punch good, but not as many socially minded billionaires. Sadly, it's unlikely to happen. Even Nolan's Dark Knight just hosed off to have a wife and kids in the middle of nowhere instead, and that's probably about as good a shot as anyone was likely to get. Batman Beyond's Bruce Wayne probably did it for a decade or two off-screen I suppose. Except for the part he donated his mansion to the orphanage. Almost all of his money was taken by creditors.
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JT Jag posted:I mainlined Daredevil and it was really good. It took me until I finished the series to realize that it was probably canon to the greater Marvel movieverse (a realization later proven correct). I thought all the little winks and nods to the existence to the other heroes were just that, but when I got to thinking I realized "poo poo, the 'incident' they were obliquely referencing was when loving aliens invaded, wasn't it" Sorta related but not really: Did 9/11 happen in the Marvel universe? Was it just like it happened here or was it inhumans/aliens? If it was just terrorists like real life...what did Captain America do about it?
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 All the people crying in the above picture have killed waaaay more than 3k people each.
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Yeah, Dr Doom mourned the random death of innocents. DR DOOM And Cap went and murdered some terrorists in the New Deal.
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Oh my god doom crying... Yeah this is what I was thinking happened "We threaten the entire planet on a regular basis but 2000 Americans? My god...the horror..." Also is that Magneto just...like doing nothing? Can he not lift beams that have been melted to pure molten metal from the heat of jet fuel??
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tsob posted:Someday there'll be a mental health professional who'll go to Arkham and not be insane or driven insane by the experience of working with disturbed patients. Or a state that will legislate execution for repeat offense super-villains and just given them a cyanide jab when they go to jail instead of a good night's sleep and a place to plan their next move. Or just some concerned citizens calling for such measures because they're tired of losing their homes to random attacks every few months. And someday the Avengers/FF might start advocating for mutant rights in an active manner by holding rallies and making tv appearances and poo poo, rather than just taking on some mutants occasionally and calling it a day. Reminds me of a question asked by a random EMTin..again, civil war I think. They were at Stamford and they were taling about when it becomes Spidermans fault that the Green Goblin kills people because he keeps sending them to prison, they keep breaking out and seeking revenge, then he sends them back to the prison they just broke out of etc
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Sorvah posted:Reminds me of a question asked by a random EMTin..again, civil war I think. They were at Stamford and they were taling about when it becomes Spidermans fault that the Green Goblin kills people because he keeps sending them to prison, they keep breaking out and seeking revenge, then he sends them back to the prison they just broke out of etc This is the whole moral dilemma Matt faces with regards to Wilson Fisk. 32MB OF ESRAM posted:Oh my god doom crying... Yeah this is what I was thinking happened "We threaten the entire planet on a regular basis but 2000 Americans? My god...the horror..." Magneto knows that jet fuel can't melt steel beams, thus they must not be made of a ferrous metal.
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Darth Ballz posted:Except for the part he donated his mansion to the orphanage. Almost all of his money was taken by creditors. One orphanage doesn't really make much of a difference in the end, and I was talking as much about the authorial decision as the character one. Whoever wrote it decided to have Bruce leave his money and it's responsibility to Alfred rather than doing anything with it himself. And Alfred is probably too old to do much in the way of serious work, at least for long anyways.
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zoux posted:Magneto knows that jet fuel can't melt steel beams, thus they must not be made of a ferrous metal. tsob posted:One orphanage doesn't really make much of a difference in the end, and I was talking as much about the authorial decision as the character one. Whoever wrote it decided to have Bruce leave his money and it's responsibility to Alfred rather than doing anything with it himself. And Alfred is probably too old to do much in the way of serious work, at least for long anyways.
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32MB OF ESRAM posted:Oh my god doom crying... Yeah this is what I was thinking happened "We threaten the entire planet on a regular basis but 2000 Americans? My god...the horror..." Magneto can't stop super-thermite.
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http://blog.netflix.com/2015/04/netflix-begins-audio-description-for.html?m=1 TLDR Netflix gave in and decided to add audio descriptions for the blind, which is a good move but really should have been there on Friday.
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Sorvah posted:Reminds me of a question asked by a random EMTin..again, civil war I think. They were at Stamford and they were taling about when it becomes Spidermans fault that the Green Goblin kills people because he keeps sending them to prison, they keep breaking out and seeking revenge, then he sends them back to the prison they just broke out of etc It's never Spider-man's fault, no more than it's a cops fault that a serial killer escapes jail to kill again. Spider-man is essentially just a civil servant going out and catching the guy who did it. If it's anyone's fault it's the fault of the people for not asking for better measures or appealing for the death penalty to deal with those people on a permanent basis, same as with any killer. Spider-man might be a vigilante, but that doesn't mean he is or should be an executioner. It's not up to him to decide what to do with Green Goblin or whoever when he stops him, it's up to the system. And the system fails every time.
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Solaris Knight posted:http://blog.netflix.com/2015/04/netflix-begins-audio-description-for.html?m=1 I have a bit of sympathy for them on this, it clearly isn't malicious or anything, it just didn't occur to people because..no-one involved was actually blind.
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So yeah, finished the show opinions. Enjoyed very much, however it started a 9 and ended a 7 or high 6. Red suit looks godawful. Quick poss spoilery thoughts from the end The soul searching is a big part of comic Matt. It ended up really dragging in the midway however. Perhaps I've just had enough of the "WE'RE THE SAME YOU AND I" that features in literally every superhero fiction. I found that there was a huge lull in the back half of the show with generally less excitement in terms of either eye watering brutality or excellently choreographed fights, and also less of the levity that came from all the likable protagonists. It never got outright bad other than a couple of clanger moments here and there, and Wilson was always around to be excellent. It had moments later on (fuckin ninja holy poo poo) but in general the o_o feeling of the first episodes just wasn't there. The first 3 were so tight, constantly exciting, constantly savage and surprising, and it never really found that again. In addition, as the plot progressed it became more and predictable. ShineDog fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Apr 14, 2015 |
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Aphrodite posted:I can't think of the last western martial arts hero movie period. The Warrior's Way in 2010. A cheesy movie that revels in its cheesiness. 32MB OF ESRAM posted:Also is that Magneto just...like doing nothing? Can he not lift beams that have been melted to pure molten metal from the heat of jet fuel?? Look to the right of Magneto's head. There are beams floating there, looks like he's trying to help. Bruceski fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Apr 14, 2015 |
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Ugly In The Morning posted:And now I want Reeves as a villain in Iron Fist. Thanks a lot. I don't know about a villain, but he could be the new Punisher and be introduced in Iron Fist. Davos stole his car and killed his puppy, now he's tracked him down to the Immortal Weapon Tournament. WickedHate posted:And whoever left would have to live under Hydra's rule, which isn't likely to be all that fun. On the plus side, fashion should be good.
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Am I too late for Iron Fist casting chat? Well, I don't know about Danny Rand, but if they bring Shang-Chi into it then they ought to cast that Afghani kid who is pretty much a reincarnated Bruce Lee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pw7ni8GH6Q
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