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So I'm watching he Defenders without having seen Iron fist. This Danny guy is both a terrible actor and and extremely annoying character. What the gently caress. Everyone else is at least passable. I'm also sick of the Hand, really hoping Punisher has 0 ninjas.
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Spoiler regarding number of ninjas in Punisher, if you really want to know: absolutely none, thank Christ. gently caress the Hand forever
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Nov 28, 2017 05:31
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Fisk was such a cool villain. So was the gangster dude from bullet proof man's series. These ninjas are simply fruity and uninspired.
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Nov 28, 2017 05:38
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BiggerBoat posted:I liked Dr. Strange but I'll be gently caress all if I can figure out where to go with him moving forward, I thought Strange in Thor was more that Strange kept Thor and Loki off-center. They didn't know of Strange's existence and Loki vastly underestimated Strange immediately.
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Nov 28, 2017 05:49
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Just finished Punisher. Really enjoyed it except I don't understand one thing. Why was Castle being pursued as a bomber when he freed his counselor friend from crazy vet's vestbomb? Counselor would tell police what's up
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Nov 28, 2017 05:55
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Soothing Vapors posted:Spoiler regarding number of ninjas in Punisher, if you really want to know: absolutely none, thank Christ. gently caress the Hand forever And Defenders.
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Nov 28, 2017 05:56
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Can someone explain to me Danny's power so I don't have to Google. Can he control his hand glow blast? Why didn't he just blast everyone in the conference room with Sigourney? I'm also confused by Luke cage and Jessica's powers because sometimes they do really strong stuff and then other times the throw huge punches that get blocked easily by a ninja or stagger from seemingly normal kicks. MOVIE MAJICK fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Nov 28, 2017 |
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Nov 28, 2017 05:58
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geeves posted:I thought Strange in Thor was more that Strange kept Thor and Loki off-center. They didn't know of Strange's existence and Loki vastly underestimated Strange immediately. Yeah, Strange warping Thor and himself around being represented by jump cuts was fantastic. MOVIE MAJICK posted:Can someone explain to me Danny's power so I don't have to Google. Can he control his hand glow blast? Why didn't he just blast everyone in the conference room with Sigourney? It's a really strong, hard to damage, glowy fist. It can also heal people by only hand-sized injuries. And think of it in TMNT cartoon terms. It can only be used on people if they're not human. So if he ever has to fight a bunch of androids he'll be useful then but otherwise you'd much prefer to have Moon Knight or someone else instead. RareAcumen fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Nov 28, 2017 |
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Nov 28, 2017 06:13
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When Karen is taken hostage by Lewis and frank confronts him, how is it that Karen shoots Lewis in the foot with the small gun in her bag, considering in an earlier scene she is shown surrendering the gun?
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Nov 28, 2017 06:17
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She picks another up off the floor, it's a pretty quick scene.
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Nov 28, 2017 06:25
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:Can someone explain to me Danny's power so I don't have to Google. Can he control his hand glow blast? Why didn't he just blast everyone in the conference room with Sigourney? His power is extreme incompetence.
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Nov 28, 2017 06:34
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The best part is that the Danny Rand in Defenders is a massive improvement from his own show.
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Nov 28, 2017 09:38
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Narcissus1916 posted:The best part is that the Danny Rand in Defenders is a massive improvement from his own show. Yeah, he’s still a moron, but at least he’s getting dunked on by everyone else so the show doesn’t have to take him as seriously while he’s being a moron.
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Nov 28, 2017 11:32
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It's kind of sad that they took the cool Danny of the comics and dragged out 3 panels of story there into 6 hours of meaningless corporate bullshit, and also made him special needs.
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Nov 28, 2017 12:07
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Something not answered that the person that asked might not realize is iron fist doesn’t project blasts. He has to make contact with his fist. As for the media thinking frank is on the bombing.... When the police show up, Curtis has no way of knowing if they’ve seen frank. The police don’t know that’s not Louis. Once the video comes out Curtis has to admit he lied to police. Curtis knows frank will just handle it at this point, or maybe he tries to explain but the media will have already run the story.
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Nov 28, 2017 12:54
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:I'm also confused by Luke cage and Jessica's powers because sometimes they do really strong stuff and then other times the throw huge punches that get blocked easily by a ninja or stagger from seemingly normal kicks. Luke and Jessica are both super strong though JJ and Luke have both referenced that they don't know the true strengths of their powers. Their solo series were usually better portraying it but not full proof. Worth noting that Luke and Jessica are brawlers and don't have any real formal training as fighters so that sometimes can lead to them getting briefly overpowered by a non-powered foe. A no-prize also may be that Luke and Jessica pull their punches.
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Nov 28, 2017 14:31
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Hand ninjas seem to operate with vaguely defined strength limits. The leaders at least kept pushing Luke around despite his skin (from what i could see when the camera was holding still enough)
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Nov 28, 2017 14:35
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notthegoatseguy posted:A no-prize also may be that Luke and Jessica pull their punches. Luke explicitly does in his series. He tells Claire that if he punched a regular human with his full strength, it would kill.
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Nov 28, 2017 14:35
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And neither of them are indomitable bulwarks, if you hit them with a car or even a drop kick when they're not expecting them they'll fall over. Unlike Hancock.
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Nov 28, 2017 14:36
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Mulva posted:It's kind of sad that they took the cool Danny of the comics and dragged out 3 panels of story there into 6 hours of meaningless corporate bullshit, and also made him special needs. The corporate stuff was fun and interesting imo. I liked the Harold/Ward/Joy dynamics a lot. Great actors too.
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Nov 28, 2017 16:52
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enraged_camel posted:The corporate stuff was fun and interesting imo. I liked the Harold/Ward/Joy dynamics a lot. Great actors too. It was well done and I enjoyed it but it took up way too much time in the series. It was a sub plot that had as much screen time as the main plot, granted the main plot sucked but still.
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Nov 28, 2017 17:41
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enraged_camel posted:When Karen is taken hostage by Lewis and frank confronts him, how is it that Karen shoots Lewis in the foot with the small gun in her bag, considering in an earlier scene she is shown surrendering the gun? There's this moment when Karen checks her handbag for her gun and does a silent exclamation of frustration when she remembers it isn't here. (Because if she'd only been allowed a firearm to this private meeting with a politician, she could have stopped this lunatic in his tracks!) In an otherwise good show, it just made me catastrophically angry. On a related note, Marvel TV is, on the whole, so drat bad at creating a compelling secondary cast, and it has this peculiar tendency to assume people want to see lots of talky scenes where the secondary cast members chide the hero for whatever course of action the hero is about to take. (Hey, Stein. Hey, Karen, Hey, Foggy. Hey, Micro.) It's boring, it's bad exposition, and it means filling your cast list out with a bunch of characters whose primary function is 'bleats a lot, attempts to prevent the plot from moving forward'.
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Nov 28, 2017 17:53
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enraged_camel posted:The corporate stuff was fun and interesting imo. I liked the Harold/Ward/Joy dynamics a lot. Great actors too. It absolutely shouldn't have been though. The most interesting part of a magic power ninja show should not be closed door corporate negotiations. I think they just got lucky as all hell with those actors and they were able to craft something nice and meaningful out of the script, despite itself.
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Nov 28, 2017 18:40
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season 2 should embrace the Marvel movies post-Black Panther and do Space: Punisher
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Nov 28, 2017 18:57
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BiggerBoat posted:Are we still spoiler tagging Punisher? Just finished it and overall enjoyed it quite a bit: That's not the only plot hole. How did Frank not know about Micro's penis?
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Nov 28, 2017 19:06
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Vishass posted:That's not the only plot hole. How did Frank not know about Micro's penis? This is the only one that bothered me. Frank knew about the cameras. Moment of passion.
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You know what, I'll go ahead and say it: I think Punisher is the best of the Marvel Netflix shows so far, even better than Daredevil season 1. Punisher as a franchise mostly seems to go two ways: Either they go full bore action schlock that celebrates Frank doling out iron justice (Yay!, John Travolta is getting hate-crimed and drug behind a car while everything blows up around him! Yay murder!) or they do like this show did and really lean into the PTSD and the fact that he's functionally a broken person who only has revenge to live for. I was not expecting quite so much active nihilism from Disney/Marvel (nor the borderline excessive amounts of gore, though the DDS2 prison riot scene should of clued me in better on what to expect) and it's actually kind of refreshing for Marvel's TV and Movie universe. He's absolutely not a hero, he's a broken man doing bad things to worse people and the show doesn't really celebrate or revel in the violence like it does with Daredevil or Luke Cage. I really liked Medani and she is is probably one of the most well rounded secondary characters in the Marvel Netflix shows thus far and tactfully avoids being a racial/cultural stereotype and has a lot of personal agency and capacity to get poo poo done outside of her interactions with Frank/Micro. Likewise, for a show that talks about the emotional toll of veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, it could have been very easy to take Lewis to an outwardly racist place, especially given O'Connor's faux infowars schtick and they have Frank actively engage and shun that sort of racism with his son in an early flashback as well. I like that they did flip a number of action tropes on it's head. In the finale when Frank tipped Medani off about where his fight with Billy was going to be, I rolled my eyes because I expected the generic action trope of "Good guy is on the ropes when the buddy shows up and shoots/distracts the bad guy long enough for the hero to gain the upper hand" and my jaw literally hit the floor when she showed up, shouted once, got shot in the head and dropped like a sack of potatoes inside of 3 seconds. It happened so quick and unceremoniously for a hot minute I didn't believe she just got shot in the head until after Frank was done with Russo and walked over to try and hold her head together. Part of me kind of wishes they had the balls to straight up kill her, but I understand why they wouldn't want to go all the way. The only thing that really annoyed me was how quickly Micro's son and Frank's interaction went from "DO IT CUT MY HEAD OFF I DON'T WANT TO LIVE" to them playing ball in the street. What the gently caress kind of kid charming superpowers does Frank have to make a what, 12-13 year old kid come around so quick? All in all, I think going the Punisher MAX route and pitting him against shady black ops sorts works a lot better than just having him fight mobsters like the movies and the early comic runs. It makes sense that if your were a former CIA backed special forces guy that fighting spooks, spies, and mercenaries would be a more on-point endeavor than going after another faux Kingpin/Cottonmouth I can only hope this is Marvel Netflix catching it's second wind after the Defenders and that this is a good sign for future shows. DeathSandwich fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Nov 28, 2017 |
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Nov 28, 2017 22:37
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I appreciate that the Punisher’s only real super power is extreme mental illness
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DeathSandwich posted:
Frank's a bad rear end and the kid knows it. Frank also talked to the kid like he was a real person and not a kid.
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Bust Rodd posted:I appreciate that the Punisher’s only real super power is extreme mental illness And a gently caress ton of training.
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Nov 29, 2017 00:13
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I'm like eight episodes in and we've had one real major action sequence. I'm not necessarily complaining, its just a fascinating choice to make. I think Jessica freakin' Jones had a higher amount of action.
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Nov 29, 2017 01:29
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Narcissus1916 posted:I'm like eight episodes in and we've had one real major action sequence. I'm...uh....not sure you know how to count. Or maybe we have different definitions of what constitutes "major".
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Nov 29, 2017 01:33
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What's next on the block for marvel netflix? Hmm most critics rate the Punisher worse than Defenders, might skip it.
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Nov 29, 2017 03:48
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:What's next on the block for marvel netflix? It's way better and I didn't even hate Defenders
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Nov 29, 2017 03:52
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:What's next on the block for marvel netflix? The schedule is: Jessica Jones 2 Luke Cage 2 Iron Fist 2 Daredevil 3
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Nov 29, 2017 03:53
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:Hmm most critics rate the Punisher worse than Defenders This is insanity.
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In It For The Tank posted:This is insanity.
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achillesforever6 posted:I feel like critics were walking in on the show to hate it because they wanted to write some big piece on how making a show about the Punisher is awful because of all the mass shootings. That says more about America than it does a tv show.
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Nov 29, 2017 04:33
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achillesforever6 posted:I feel like critics were walking in on the show to hate it because they wanted to write some big piece on how making a show about the Punisher is awful because of all the mass shootings. Pretty much. They had done zero research on the source material and just went with the "he just mindlessly kills people" approach. When someone familiar with the source material reviewed it received positive reviews. If you are familiar with the Punisher and watch the show you will like it. If you walk into it not knowing anything about the Punisher, but you don't immediately start turning TV shows into social commentary there is a good chance you will still like it. Some of the source material was updated like instead of Frank being a Vietnam war vet, he is a vet from Iraq and Afghanistan. Overall its worth watching.
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cosmicjim posted:Frank's a bad rear end and the kid knows it. Frank also talked to the kid like he was a real person and not a kid. Growing up there were a quite few fights I had with my parents where I was throwing a real hard tantrum one minute and then hugging them while tearing up the next. They, were very understanding and never held a Ka Bar to my neck in the interim but still, I think a lot little kids do that
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