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Vengarr
Jun 17, 2010

Smashed before noon


Hammerstein posted:

It's early Navy Field all over again.

If you have a somewhat decent feeling for speed and direction then you will do enormous damage with manual torp bombers. Pubbies ofc use auto all the time.

Don't expect any help or escort from the pubs though, the trick with carriers is to see where the bulk of the shitlords goes and then to trailing them, so that you are protected from the inevitable bum rush for the cap zones. But while carriers are nice they don't give you the same rewarding feeling that BBs do, also you are constantly in that rts top-down view and you miss all the pretty explosions.

I think there's a button that lets you zoom to your planes.

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xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.



Hammerstein posted:

It's early Navy Field all over again.

If you have a somewhat decent feeling for speed and direction then you will do enormous damage with manual torp bombers. Pubbies ofc use auto all the time.

Meanwhile in other ships if you turn so your side isn't towards torp bomber squadrons it makes life super hard for the carrier player.

demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.



Lipstick Apathy

xthetenth posted:



Here's what a battleship's armor layout looks like for the curious. If you look in the dark blue area on the side, you'll see a bunch of machinery looking stuff under the superstructure. That's all the boilers and turbines that make the ship go. They're big spaces full of important machinery. The areas beneath the guns that have the turntable things are the magazines. These are super important.

That area from the start of the dark blue to right behind the rearmost main turret is the citadel. Shoot there with AP and penetrate for massive damage. The longer or shorter the range is the better odds you have to penetrate.

Ships of a class can usually penetrate each other. That's why cool kids angle their ships' belt armor.

I added this to the OP if you don't mind?

Prav
Oct 29, 2011


xthetenth posted:

Meanwhile in other ships if you turn so your side isn't towards torp bomber squadrons it makes life super hard for the carrier player.

That's why you use two squadrons from different directions. But I think you know that.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.



demonR6 posted:

I added this to the OP if you don't mind?

Do it. Intended it to be added.


Prav posted:

That's why you use two squadrons from different directions. But I think you know that.

Yeah, the squadron coming in from the other side is why you pay attention to its angle and be ready to slam on the brakes to mess with that solution (or just be turning hard enough that it misses)

Stevefin
Sep 30, 2013



rex rabidorum vires posted:

Lol can't spot a DD in smoke from literally 1.5 KM away. Yea can see that getting old fast.

If your ship has torps, This would be a great time to blind fire a wide spread, you know roughly where the DD is, and it won't see the torps till its too late in the smoke

NerdyMcNerdNerd
Aug 3, 2004



If I understand correctly, you want to use AP shells for long range combat for the extended range and plunging damage against deck armor. You also want them at short range, because you'll have nice, flat shots at the enemy hulls to puncture all the clanky bits in their floaty parts.

At medium range where you can't plunge into the deck armor from above, and where you don't have a good angle for direct fire into their belts, you switch to HE?

James Garfield
May 5, 2012

Paleontologists must have looked into it before. Maybe they had, but never ran with it. Or maybe the thought simply never occurred to them. Maybe the stand hunting from a tree strategy had never been applied to T. rex.


Stevefin posted:

If your ship has torps, This would be a great time to blind fire a wide spread, you know roughly where the DD is, and it won't see the torps till its too late in the smoke

I'm not sure if smoke hides torpedoes.

Hammerstein
May 6, 2005

YOU DON'T KNOW A DAMN THING ABOUT RACING !

Vengarr posted:

I think there's a button that lets you zoom to your planes.

You can zoom into normal view with shift, but it's horrible for squadron control.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.



NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:

If I understand correctly, you want to use AP shells for long range combat for the extended range and plunging damage against deck armor. You also want them at short range, because you'll have nice, flat shots at the enemy hulls to puncture all the clanky bits in their floaty parts.

At medium range where you can't plunge into the deck armor from above, and where you don't have a good angle for direct fire into their belts, you switch to HE?

If you can't punch through the candy shell into the nougat center, fire HE. However, against same tier and same type, AP will pen at most ranges. Cruisers against BBs want to be about at maximum range or like 3 km, but the immune zone for BBs against BBs can be like from 10k to 13k.

For reference, immune zone is where you can't plunge through the deck or slam through the belt. You want to be in yours and outside theirs. You can manipulate yours by angling your belt to lower the maximum range it can be penned at.

CitizenKain
May 27, 2001

That was Gary Cooper, asshole.


I am really not good at this game, but my god are some people just awful. What is it with people who slow to a stop to shoot? Watched 3 guys drive into the open and just halt, oddly enough, went poorly for them.

Desuwa
Jun 2, 2011

I'm telling my mommy. That pubbie doesn't do video games right!

CitizenKain posted:

I am really not good at this game, but my god are some people just awful. What is it with people who slow to a stop to shoot? Watched 3 guys drive into the open and just halt, oddly enough, went poorly for them.

Ships are really just big tanks when you think about it.

demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.



Lipstick Apathy

CitizenKain posted:

I am really not good at this game, but my god are some people just awful. What is it with people who slow to a stop to shoot? Watched 3 guys drive into the open and just halt, oddly enough, went poorly for them.

That is the kind of guy we like. I aim to disable that kind of shitter and tell the guys in my division so if they are close by they can join in the fun.

My favorite though are the guys who either intentionally or due to mishap end up parked on a beach.

Prav
Oct 29, 2011


demonR6 posted:

My favorite though are the guys who either intentionally or due to mishap end up parked on a beach.

Rudder damage

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.


Prav posted:

Rudder damage

I managed to shoot a guy in the engine and cause him to run aground. It was hilarious.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.



Prav posted:

Rudder damage

Bismarcking suuuuuuuuuuuuucks.

JuffoWup
Mar 28, 2012


I'm actually surprised the US battleships aren't in. They've been hyping them up in the dev journal things for the last few months.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.



JuffoWup posted:

I'm actually surprised the US battleships aren't in. They've been hyping them up in the dev journal things for the last few months.

I can't wait for them. I want the New Mexicos so the US can show the Japanese why the Fuso was badly laid out.

CitizenKain
May 27, 2001

That was Gary Cooper, asshole.


Soon as it feels like I get a handle on the game, someone quickly reminds me that I don't. Thought I had a guy solid, but I must have been shooting AP shells at him for too long, or was hitting empty spaces, as his shots were hitting a lot harder.

I really don't like the tier 1 japanese cruiser though.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

The coolest Fuhrer there ever was


Carriers are pretty fun, it takes some time to get used to them, though.

Hammerstein
May 6, 2005

YOU DON'T KNOW A DAMN THING ABOUT RACING !

I love it when pubs step into my smoke cloud. 272k credits and 2.9k xp

demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.



Lipstick Apathy

EponymousMrYar posted:

I managed to shoot a guy in the engine and cause him to run aground. It was hilarious.

Then hit them again while they are run aground.. pile a few more in and try breaking the engine again.

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007



CitizenKain posted:

Soon as it feels like I get a handle on the game, someone quickly reminds me that I don't. Thought I had a guy solid, but I must have been shooting AP shells at him for too long, or was hitting empty spaces, as his shots were hitting a lot harder.

I really don't like the tier 1 japanese cruiser though.

It is bad. Massive size and very squishy. Tough it out they get torps and are pretty baller.

Kuntz
Feb 17, 2011


MoraleHazard posted:

In true Wargaming fashion, the Novgorod will be the Tier IV.

It'll never happen, but I would pay a good five dollars for a tier 1 or 2 Novgorod. Nvm actually, I wouldn't want to deal with all the awful TOG jokes.

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xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.



CitizenKain posted:

Soon as it feels like I get a handle on the game, someone quickly reminds me that I don't. Thought I had a guy solid, but I must have been shooting AP shells at him for too long, or was hitting empty spaces, as his shots were hitting a lot harder.

I really don't like the tier 1 japanese cruiser though.

You know how tier 1-3 in tanks really don't play by the rules?

Yep.


Oh and heads up, you can't see it but Japanese cruisers have a big citadel compared to the US, they die faster than their HP would indicate. US are toughish gun cruisers with AA, Japanese are fragileish gun cruisers with a really nasty torp punch if they get close.

xthetenth fucked around with this message at Mar 13, 2015 around 01:43

Hammerstein
May 6, 2005

YOU DON'T KNOW A DAMN THING ABOUT RACING !

xthetenth posted:

You know how tier 1-3 in tanks really don't play by the rules?

Yep.


Oh and heads up, you can't see it but Japanese cruisers have a big citadel compared to the US, they die faster than their HP would indicate. US are toughish gun cruisers with AA, Japanese are fragileish gun cruisers with a really nasty torp punch if they get close.

The beauty of Japanese torpedo cruisers is that pubs really like to get alongside other ships and dish it out Age of Sails style. While completing forgetting that torps are the Japanese gimmick....

ugh its Troika
May 2, 2009

by FactsAreUseless


I'm looking forward to the German cruisers with 11 inch guns. Those are going to be either the best cruisers, or the worst.

Indrazar
Sep 19, 2011


I can confirm that teir 1 boats are much, much more fun than teir 1 tanks.

James Garfield
May 5, 2012

Paleontologists must have looked into it before. Maybe they had, but never ran with it. Or maybe the thought simply never occurred to them. Maybe the stand hunting from a tree strategy had never been applied to T. rex.


I really hope the Alaska class are cruisers and not battleships because that would be amazing.

AfroSquirrel
Sep 3, 2011



Desuwa posted:

Ships are really just big tanks when you think about it.

I hope that for April Fools we get an event with a bunch of tanks on a barge(s) against ships. That or add a ship that is a bunch of tanks on a barge, maybe with a sail.

Greggorian
Feb 28, 2003
Teh Slacker King

There doesn't seem to be a thread for the goons channel. Can anyone hit me up with the password? In as DeadSmythe.

Edit: taken care of, thanks.

Greggorian fucked around with this message at Mar 13, 2015 around 02:07

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.



-Troika- posted:

I'm looking forward to the German cruisers with 11 inch guns. Those are going to be either the best cruisers, or the worst.

The Alaskas had 12 inch guns. The really crazy fun thing is gonna be the German destroyers, which even in WWI had 5.9" guns. They're going to suck so much to aim.

Orv
May 4, 2011

"To. Ya' know. Stuff."
(Nazi Rank <3)


Indrazar posted:

I can confirm that teir 1 boats are much, much more fun than teir 1 tanks.

I can't wait for the T1 premium with long lances.

Hammerstein
May 6, 2005

YOU DON'T KNOW A DAMN THING ABOUT RACING !

It's gonna be really hard to find a good spot for ships like the Gneisenau and Scharnhorst, the Alaska, or the German Pocket Battleships. Fast, bit less armor than a BB and really puny guns compared to true BBs. After tier 4 everything seems to have 14" guns, where do you put those 11" pea shooters then ?

Hammerstein fucked around with this message at Mar 13, 2015 around 02:20

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.



Orv posted:

I can't wait for the T1 premium with long lances.

I'm pretty sure they've actively been trying to marginalize the long lance for things that aren't Japanese destroyers.

Orv
May 4, 2011

"To. Ya' know. Stuff."
(Nazi Rank <3)


xthetenth posted:

I'm pretty sure they've actively been trying to marginalize the long lance for things that aren't Japanese destroyers.

Look man, the B2 existed in the form it did for like two years, I don't expect them to skimp on the idiot premiums here.

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.


Hmm, gonna take me a while to get the hang of the Phoenix. The speed really lets me get into more trouble I can handle with this glass jar.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.



Orv posted:

Look man, the B2 existed in the form it did for like two years, I don't expect them to skimp on the idiot premiums here.

Yeaaaah, I think there's a reason the Kitakami is like tier eight and still doesn't carry the things.

Prav
Oct 29, 2011


Nordick posted:

Hmm, gonna take me a while to get the hang of the Phoenix. The speed really lets me get into more trouble I can handle with this glass jar.

The Phoenix is very confusing since it thinks it's not a destroyer.

Also good god what did they do to Japanese DD guns? These things were marginal before, now they're practically a liability.

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ugh its Troika
May 2, 2009

by FactsAreUseless


When's the closed alpha ship being handed out? Not till release, I assume.

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