|
Beluga Snail posted:Just jumped in the Discord, this is definitely far more chill than I remember either Tanks or the boats in War Thunder to be. They got rid of premium consumables a couple of patches ago. Everyone gets them by default now.
|
# ? Aug 10, 2020 00:54 |
|
|
# ? Apr 18, 2024 00:23 |
|
they were recently removed. Now the standard consumables are the old 'premium' levels.
|
# ? Aug 10, 2020 00:55 |
|
Stanley Pain posted:Overall I find this game way more relaxing than tanks. Also the grind doesn't feel nearly as bad as tanks does. Yeah the grind isn't really as bad so far. But then again its pretty low tiers. Ive been watching higher tiers and I can't wrap my brain around that yet. But then again I did the same for tanks so we will see!
|
# ? Aug 10, 2020 01:03 |
|
Katamari Democracy posted:Yeah the grind isn't really as bad so far. But then again its pretty low tiers. It does slow down post tier 5/6. But the game gives you lots of chances to earn flags that really help with the grind in terms of XP and such. Have you decided which line(s) you're going to go down? I really liked most of the Russian cruisers and BBs. They're ships that tend to be "point front of ship at enemy and laugh once you get to around tier 8 onward". DDs in general are a bit miserable to play so I wouldn't recommend them for a new player. Italian Cruisers kinda feel like driving Italian sports cars. They handle really well and SAP shells can really put the hurt on lightly armoured targets.
|
# ? Aug 10, 2020 01:32 |
|
I'm just going to do the usual USA / Russian lines. Cause why not.
|
# ? Aug 10, 2020 02:15 |
|
Russian BBs are a superb line to start with because their close range accuracy gimmick makes the low tier BB experience far far far less painful. Many lines don't get decent until T7+, but the RU BBs start strong and just get stronger.
|
# ? Aug 10, 2020 02:33 |
|
Beluga Snail posted:Just jumped in the Discord, this is definitely far more chill than I remember either Tanks or the boats in War Thunder to be. As an additional clarification beyond what has already been said, the game has never had premium ammo. There is only AP, HE and SAP, and only the Italians have SAP. So you could never get extra pen by paying more credits like you can in tanks. The premium consumables had shorter cooldowns than the regular ones but now those are gone too.
|
# ? Aug 10, 2020 06:20 |
|
I've never played Tanks, but I have to the say the concept of Premium Ammo is absolutely awful to me. I can't imagine playing a game where I need to basically pay more every time I press the fire button. Ships has its faults including power-creep, the Research Bureau, too many Premiums in general and IMO the existence of Tier X Premiums at all, but nothing as bad as that.
|
# ? Aug 10, 2020 08:32 |
|
Has anyone seen the easy way to farm signals? If you play the Tier 2 BB Mikasa early in the morning you are likely to get around 2 humans and 8 bots per team. I can consistently get Kraken, Confed, High Calibre and Close Quarters Expert in these games. Dreadnaught and Fireproof are probably doable too.
|
# ? Aug 10, 2020 08:53 |
|
TheFluff posted:As an additional clarification beyond what has already been said, the game has never had premium ammo. There is only AP, HE and SAP, and only the Italians have SAP. So you could never get extra pen by paying more credits like you can in tanks. The premium consumables had shorter cooldowns than the regular ones but now those are gone too. and as an additional additional clarification the ammo is different in different boats. The Orion, the T4 Royal Navy (RN) Battleship (BB) had a 40% fire chance on it's HE shells whilst the Gangut, the T4 Russian BB has a 33% chance, the Wyoming down at 22% Fire chance. Broadly these difference don't matter too much till T6-7. RN BB's what to be firing HE, everyone else AP all the time. As you go up the tiers you'll learn about the different shell characteristics, the USN Heavy Cruisers with their super heavy AP, the RN light cruisers with their short-fused AP. The special ammunition tends to be a characteristic of a line of ships, not specific to one ship so it's not too bad.
|
# ? Aug 10, 2020 09:41 |
|
kaesarsosei posted:Has anyone seen the easy way to farm signals? If you play the Tier 2 BB Mikasa early in the morning you are likely to get around 2 humans and 8 bots per team. I can consistently get Kraken, Confed, High Calibre and Close Quarters Expert in these games. Dreadnaught and Fireproof are probably doable too. last few times i've tried this there are invariable a bunch of T2 DDs out to ruin your good time Also nth-ing that this game is much more chill than tanks where you can get one shot and not even know what happened and then you're out of the match. I find in this game that much more often you can plan ahead and out-think your opponent.
|
# ? Aug 10, 2020 16:11 |
|
The Weser's airplane upgrades seem completely useless. Only the torpedo bombers add anything meaningful, which is two planes to the squadron (still only two attack at once). The rest just offer like a +3 knots cruising speed and 60HP upgrade, but in exchange for a ~15% longer restoration time. On the upside a Visby found out that German secondaries are still deadly even at tier 6.
|
# ? Aug 10, 2020 20:39 |
|
Ok so the German Potato (Pomme De Terre ) is pretty good. Players on the other hand have been atrocious. 12 attempts to get one win in a British BB. 12 attempts .
|
# ? Aug 11, 2020 00:57 |
|
In my one shitshow battle before work, I was on a team with a Hosho and Rhein. They got overrun by the DD's when that whole side collapsed. Low tier lol Hosho was berating the Rhein for using torpedo bombers against the DD swarm. Trying to give him hints to use bombers or rockets. To which we tried to explain that German planes are useless against DDs but the torpedoes are the least useless "You just used rockets on the cruiser. Why aren't you using them on the DD" ... "Ok then use bombs" ... "what the gently caress" "what is the loving point" "what the gently caress" "why" "stop playing German carriers"
|
# ? Aug 11, 2020 01:32 |
|
Der Shovel posted:The Weser's airplane upgrades seem completely useless. Only the torpedo bombers add anything meaningful, which is two planes to the squadron (still only two attack at once). You don't actually think a 10-20% speed increase is meaningless right?? It has the same numbers of planes both stock and upgraded as the Ryujo, including the restoration time, and all of its upgraded squadrons have the same number of bombs per plane as the Ryujo's. The reason its armaments don't improve from stock to upgraded and the Ryujo's do is that stock Ryujo planes have armament copied from the Hosho, and stock Weser planes already have the tier 6 armament.
|
# ? Aug 11, 2020 03:07 |
|
I've started dabbling in the new CV gameplay and tbh I kinda like it which feels dirty to say considering the rep CVs have. I have Midway/Hakuryu unlocked from long ago but I'm not going to dive straight into them so I started up the new German and British trees. Which CVs are regarded as best at each tier? It seems already the German T4 is much superior to the British. Also took the plunge and reset my Shimakaze tree for the x2 bonus before the reset this weekend. Its the shortest XP grind plus I definitely prefer Torp DDs to gunboats and IMO all the IJN torp line is decent-to-good. I also have a ton of 6pt+ captains laying around from the ARP events years ago who I can drop in to each tier and leave there should I feel the need to repeat this. kaesarsosei fucked around with this message at 08:15 on Aug 11, 2020 |
# ? Aug 11, 2020 08:11 |
|
T4 best is Hosho, Langley close second. T6 is hands down the new premium German CV which is loving filthy, other than that Ryujo or Ark Royal. T8 tech tree I’m going to say Parseval is powerful if you know what you’re doing, Shokaku is best if you are a good CV player, Lexington is versatile and strong but driven largely by idiots, and don’t play Implacable. Premium T8’s that are still available: Kaga is probably strongest, Saipan punishes poor play harshly, Graf zeppelin is hard mode, and don’t play indomitable. T10 hak is best, midway is good, audacious is usually bad but some of the most insane carrier autists absolutely dominate with it somehow, and I have no idea about the Red PR Baron.
|
# ? Aug 11, 2020 08:32 |
|
Audacious (much like every other RN CV) is insanely RNG heavy. If you get lucky, the low penetration HE bombs set tons of fires and you rack up insane amounts of damage. If you don't, you just get shatters on battleship decks and cry in the corner. In general I'd say avoiding the British CVs is a good idea.
|
# ? Aug 11, 2020 09:58 |
|
A torpedo-speced Ark Royal (T6 premium which may or may not ever be for sale again) is a helluva good time though.
|
# ? Aug 11, 2020 10:55 |
|
Vincent Van Goatse posted:A torpedo-speced Ark Royal (T6 premium which may or may not ever be for sale again) is a helluva good time though. The Ark Royal is pretty much the only good RN CV, it also has a crazy drop speed on it's bombs. I mean all CV's are good but some are better than others. Still churning through the Rhien, it's absolutely punishing for BB's and CA's but has almost no offence against DD's. I'm not sure the game needed more ships the makes BB's sad to be alive.
|
# ? Aug 11, 2020 11:10 |
|
I’m now up to a rank 5 British cruiser and I have only played co-op AMA.
|
# ? Aug 11, 2020 11:45 |
|
kaesarsosei posted:I've started dabbling in the new CV gameplay and tbh I kinda like it which feels dirty to say considering the rep CVs have. Don't do the British CVs. They are mostly miserable by comparison. They planes also slow as heck.
|
# ? Aug 11, 2020 12:56 |
|
Yeah now that I actually have another CV to compare to (the German T4), I realise just how bad the Hermes is. The one advantage it has over the Rhien is that its rocket planes are much better vs DDs whereas the German rockets are comparatively harder to use. And Hermes only dropping 1 Torp per attack is mental. I'll finish out the Hermes grind to unlock the T6 but after that dump the line But I think its a plus point in the new CV design that not all planes from all nations are the same, and the German DBs and rockets have a much different feel to UK.
|
# ? Aug 11, 2020 13:54 |
|
Any strong opinions on coal ships right now?
|
# ? Aug 11, 2020 19:42 |
|
KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Any strong opinions on coal ships right now? Get Georgia then Thunderer
|
# ? Aug 11, 2020 20:07 |
|
Judging by the sub beta test, Brit CVs may find a niche for their dive bombers in dunking on inattentive submarines. It'll be awesome for the Brits for a week or two when the subs come out properly. Less fun afterwards, though.
|
# ? Aug 11, 2020 20:24 |
|
General Battuta posted:Get Georgia then Thunderer
|
# ? Aug 11, 2020 20:49 |
|
kaesarsosei posted:I've started dabbling in the new CV gameplay and tbh I kinda like it which feels dirty to say considering the rep CVs have. I thought the Harugumo was the shortest XP grind? I know it was the line I always used after advice on reddit. [Not applicable if you like torp boats obviously]
|
# ? Aug 11, 2020 21:13 |
|
KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Any strong opinions on coal ships right now? Thunderer: overpowered but boring unless you really like sniping from j10 Yoshino: average but boring unless you really like Moskva: ehhhhh Salem: overpowered (because it's a Des Moines) but you can just get a Des Moines without spending coal Marceau: pretty good/fun/unique, but high learning curve Georgia: overpowered secondary boomer vessel Pommern: tier 9 Tirpitz anything lower tier: tier 6-7 coal ships are pretty good deals if you compare the prices in gold, but not really worth it unless you specifically want that ship for some reason James Garfield fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Aug 11, 2020 |
# ? Aug 11, 2020 21:22 |
|
James Garfield posted:Thunderer: overpowered but boring unless you really like sniping from j10 I haven't played in a few months but unless things have REALLY changed sniping in the thunderer is a noob trap. Abuse the utter bullshit concealment to one shot cruisers from 13km
|
# ? Aug 11, 2020 21:48 |
|
DonkeyHotay posted:I haven't played in a few months but unless things have REALLY changed sniping in the thunderer is a noob trap. Abuse the utter bullshit concealment to one shot cruisers from 13km I think you also want to get in closer now to get improved pen as well.
|
# ? Aug 11, 2020 22:12 |
|
Also the Thunderer is fun to bait people into thinking you are just going to shoot HE at them. Then you can remind them that it also shoots AP. Wish the brits had a commander with an improvement to shell switching like Halsey though. Had a Kitakami on my team last game. Its going to be grim out there when those hit outside of testers. The guy on our team wasn't very good with it, and he still locked down a flank pretty well. Enemy DD's weren't able to push too close since I had my Daring in the mix with some Nevsky's behind me, but we couldn't push in either. CitizenKain fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Aug 12, 2020 |
# ? Aug 12, 2020 00:21 |
|
I like shooting lots of guns that fire fast and set fires everywhere, what line/boats should I be looking for?
|
# ? Aug 12, 2020 01:03 |
|
Theswarms posted:I like shooting lots of guns that fire fast and set fires everywhere, what line/boats should I be looking for? US or Russian light cruisers.
|
# ? Aug 12, 2020 01:05 |
|
KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Any strong opinions on coal ships right now? Georgia, then idk. I got Thunderer and am kind of underwhelmed by it.
|
# ? Aug 12, 2020 01:22 |
|
Preechr posted:US or Russian light cruisers. Is that the worcester and nevsky lines then?
|
# ? Aug 12, 2020 01:27 |
|
Theswarms posted:Is that the worcester and nevsky lines then? Da
|
# ? Aug 12, 2020 01:47 |
|
Theswarms posted:Is that the worcester and nevsky lines then? Also French destroyers
|
# ? Aug 12, 2020 03:57 |
|
All good info, thanks everyone.
|
# ? Aug 12, 2020 03:58 |
|
|
# ? Apr 18, 2024 00:23 |
|
Any tips for the Goliath (aside from 'lol' or 'don't')? I'm going to try to give this wretched thing a fair shake because... I don't know I like pain and humiliation?
|
# ? Aug 12, 2020 04:18 |