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May 14, 2006

Dubs In The Key Of Life


Lipstick Apathy

Viginti posted:

The question has never been whether or not he's innocent, but if you can prove that he's guilty. It's inherent to the title of the show. There is evidence that links him to all of these people, evidence that points to him having motive to kill all of these people but very little in the way of incontrovertible evidence that he did, in fact kill anyone. His argument is, essentially, that he's just a Jinx, that bad things just happen to happen to those around him. We can say, well ok one false accusation, maybe that happens, but three is too many to write off. Our common sense says that he is guilty, and it says that if he is guilty of one then he is cumulatively guilty of all of them, but what can we prove?

Even with the letter and confession I still don't see that you can prove anything except that he is an occasionally creepy motherfucker. I have some issues with the idea of reasonable doubt though, because I have the kind of cynical imagination that can doubt just about everything to some extent, so I don't know how any crime really gets certifiably proven. Is he guilty because he seems guilty? Because the press all says he is guilty? Or because we have facts that say only he can be guilty?

I think everyone's focusing on the letters/envelope and the audio just because it's new/fresh in everyone's mind.

Not that they're necessarily credible, but LAPD claims that they're seeking extradition from Louisiana because they're ready to bring charges in the Berman death based on evidence that has nothing to do with the show.

We'll all see, I guess.

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May 14, 2006

Dubs In The Key Of Life


Lipstick Apathy
The charges in LA are murder under special circumstances: murder of a witness, lying in wait, use of a firearm.

The first & last we could already figure; it's the second one that sounds oddly specific.

C2C - 2.0
May 14, 2006

Dubs In The Key Of Life


Lipstick Apathy

axeil posted:

I don't think it's all of those, it's just that you can charge first with special when one of those things happens. And Susan was both a witness and shot...

Unless things have changed, I just posted what the LA Times reported last night. Granted, I don't know what the bar is to meet "lying in wait".

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May 14, 2006

Dubs In The Key Of Life


Lipstick Apathy

Mahoning posted:

Maybe Sareb is going to testify that Bob Durst was at Susan Berman's house when he left her and he had never told police because he thought Bob was innocent.

That'd be an interesting development. The brief time they spent showing how money might be the motivating factor behind Sareb not even considering Bob's guilt seemed like an afterthought, but that whole segment did have a weird vibe to it...as if something was being left unsaid.

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May 14, 2006

Dubs In The Key Of Life


Lipstick Apathy
I liked both Serial and The Jinx. I hope there's more stuff like these 2 to come; I guess I'm just easily entertained, because I don't really have any complaints about either.

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May 14, 2006

Dubs In The Key Of Life


Lipstick Apathy

Jolo posted:

I would recommend The Thin Blue Line by Errol Morris as another great true crime doc. Blue Line also has a pretty damning recording that gave me chills when I heard it in the film.

Been seeing this on Netflix lately; might give it a go later on.

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