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Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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A full Las Tortugas match finally made it to Youtube. Been looking for some drat ninja turtles matches for a while. Anyone know of any more?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcXKhtORMc4

Or try this one - looks like the same match filmed from different locations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByLJ0W8gTc0

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Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Hopefully even more countries host Ninja Turtle matches in 2015.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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God bless us, everyone, Brian Cage and Moose together....

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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This was fun as hell, stupidly dangerous, gory - just the most irresponsible fun. Loved the whole loving card. The Mayas beating the gently caress out of one another was something else.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Apparently he grabbed the mic and said "chinga tu madre."

Hey look, video. 33:35 or so.

https://youtu.be/DLvM16IUNwU?t=2015

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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I guess LA Park is running with the "Chinga tu madre" thing, only now he's getting the whole crowd to yell it for him, instead of saying it himself, like DX when they'd do the "we got two words for ya."

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Drop the La from Sombra and claim it's a new character so he gets to put his mask back on.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Ya think next year LA Park and Wagner are gonna be back in either CMLL or AAA?

Also: will they ever, ever get a big enough payday to do the mask match?

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Luigi Thirty posted:

He claims on twitter that the promoter tried to screw him on travel arrangements and didn't get him a work permit:



If the best you can do is say screenshots are easy to falsify, you are grasping at straws pretty badly.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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In that Mistico story, Dave casually refers to Rush as CMLL's biggest star. Is that accurate - he's bigger than Sombra or Atlantis?

Ever since I started watching, Sombra's seemed like the top dog to me, with Rush as his buddy and #2.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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LOS INGOBERNABLES trios or parejas matches have become my obsession of late. I just love Sombra and Rush, and Marco ain't so bad either (Mascara is fine in trios, too, but I like Marco waaay more).

This is from earlier this month, but the entire INGOBERNABLES act from top to bottom is so enjoyable to watch. The way they act like they don't give a poo poo, the constant posing and cheating, the begging off, just every part of the act rules, even when the matches aren't that great.

And I can't believe I'm saying this, but Sombra is actually better without the mask. Facial reactions have taken his character up a notch to the point he's my favorite wrestler going right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqNfZNzfWaA

Oh also, I hate incredibles matches, and this is filmed from the crowd, but the first move in this match has Sombra gently caress over his partner. The fact they don't even pay lip service to making this a legitimate match, and that Rush literally lays down and lets Sombra pin him for the final fall, made it enjoyable to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLJ7P6yc2KM

I am really glad I've gotten into lucha.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Caristico, being a portmanteau, is a stupid concept but it sounds fine to my ear. Either way, better than MISTIC 2.0.

And since the gobers are talking smack about Caristico, I guess that's gonna be the big feud soon. Or, most likely will be. You never know with lucha.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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ayn rand hand job posted:

I like Mistic2.0

then again I like L.A. PARK

I like LA Park

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Luigi Thirty posted:

What's the deal with the proxies? I'll pay $6 to watch a Day of the Dead CMLL show.

They are showing it on Cleeng, seemingly a Mexico-based streaming service. They did a practice run a few days ago for free, and it worked. One would assume there will be no proxies needed, but it's lucha so you never can be quite sure.

http://cmll.cleeng.com/dia-de-muert...o/E399827173_MX

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Luigi Thirty posted:

Aaaaaand Dr. Wagner Jr. just debuted for AAA.

BEEP BEEP time to watch AAA HONK HONK

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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I watched the Sombra/Volador vs Rush/Mistico match from a few days back. Really fun match, with LOS INGOBERNABLES going at it and Volador Jr getting a chance to heel it up a little. Sombra's antics are amazing.



Courtesy of http://www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/2015...-for-next-week/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pihnPpEoaEc

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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BodyMassageMachine posted:

I'm not well-versed in Lucha beyond what I've seen clips of here and there and LU, but anytime I've seen old-Mistico/Mysteziz/Caristico in action he's been super botchy, especially for a guy that's supposed to be a top draw. Is current-Mistico any good? Was the character that popular that it merited 3 different guys to play it at one point or another??

Fun flyer, though not the best one in CMLL, or anything like that. He's a solid guy who the crowd usually mercilessly boos. Don't know if he has a a heel run in him, but he's not even clicking on the level they're pushing him as a face - and they're not pushing him as hard as they used to.

And like Thauros said, it's not that the original CMLL Mistico was a big deal, he was THE big deal.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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oatgan posted:

They associated him strongly with El Santo and pushed him harder than anybody else. It worked. I don't think people understand how huge he was. iirc he was flying all around Mexico and working as many as 10 shows a week. They finally started beating him and his star faded but he was the biggest wrestling star on the planet for a while there.

I think there were weeks where he was, without exaggeration, doing as many as 18 shows. Incredible.

Edit: Though Meltz revealing his nickname among some wrestlers is "Handles," because he needs to be carried, is like the funniest wrestling thing this year outside of Mr. Niebla's drunken Casita.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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No Luck Needed posted:

This was a good match; I enjoyed the dick kick and dick punch finish. I thought it was funny when Volador is carring Mistico out and picks up a beer then tosses it in Mistico's face. This is my first look at Los Ingobernables that everyone in the NJPW threads are wetting themselves over. Anyone want to share some links to matches I should watch?

Oh my, now it's Manflurry's time to shine.

Ok, so, the thing about CMLL, and you probably already know this, is the top acts work all the loving time in trios matches, so you are gonna get a poo poo ton of 6 mans that often have no storyline relevance. I'm fine with that, when it comes to the Gobers at least, because they are such a fun unit and Sombra's like a mid-90s Shawn Michaels in his mannerism and aloofness.

Los Ingobernables = La Sombra, Rush, Naito, Marco Corleone (you may or may not remember him as Mark Jindrak in another life), La Mascara, and (apparently) "King of Darkness" Evil.

So, if you want a great match, start at Sombra vs Atlantis hair vs hair https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LQUouo78KY

Here are a bunch of trios or parejas I have personally watched and range from watchable to very good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT1gCXB1zF4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqNfZNzfWaA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOqbTdA9crc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LE8uqeyOAw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZgJBayciFU

But yeah, follow thecubsfan on Youtube and check those new releases. He also has lengthy writeups on https://www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/ where he tells ya what's good and what's poo poo.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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No Luck Needed posted:

it was mask vs mask, question: is the tombstomb piledriver banned in CMLL or did la Sombra lose a stip match where he can no longer use it or was it just the referee not wanting him to do it? Question, under their names on the graphics both where listed as tecnicos, where they both faces going in or does that mean something else?

Why in the world did I write hair vs hair? It was early....

And yeah, the Tombstone is definitely banned in CMLL. Maybe AAA, too? It's like one of the three major cheating ways to score a pin in CMLL - there's the mask pull (if the ref doesn't see you pull the mask, he doesn't DQ you, and the wrestler who had their mask pulled has to cover their face and take the pin to protect their identity), the low blow (almost always leads to a pin), and if you're real nasty, the DREADED MARTINETE usually leads to the opponent being carted out after the pin.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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No Luck Needed posted:

in this trios Dr. Wagner Jr. keeps trying to Too Sweet both Rush and la Sombra, and la Sombra breaks it up a few times but then does a triple Too Sweet later; what is up with that?

Wagner had just returned to CMLL (and, because he's Wagner, was gone like 2 weeks later, if that), so this was his first time teaming with LOS INGOBERNABLES, so they were kinda hesitant to get buddy-buddy with him. But eventually they relented, his old man heelishness melting their young punk hearts, and made for an awesome one-time-only trio.

No Luck Needed posted:

great dusty finish, good back and forth match; does anyone ever do 2/3 falls trios matches outside of Mexico?

Australia!

That... that's a joke because CMLL calls those sort of trios matches "Relevos Australianos" for reasons I've never seen explained.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Hell of a match between Sombra and Rush tonight!

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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epitasis posted:

tharuos says hes not booked after sunday

Thauros is a scoopsman, too. this is the end, my beautiful sombra.....................

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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It would be hilarious to me if wwe did sign thunder, thinking he was Mexican.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Luigi Thirty posted:

Sombra just posted a photo of a plane ticket and his passport on Instagram. Looks like he's going on a trip to America.

The guy has been going so hard. I hope he enjoys the break!

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Unfortunately, I didn't really pay much attention to the Fantasticamanias, so I can't offer much in the way of info there. Here's a cool note from last year's Fantasticamania from the Observer, though.

FEB. 2, 2015 WRESTLING OBSERVER NEWSLETTER posted:

There was a report from Japan from the owner of a wrestling store saying that Mistico was in terrible pain the entire Japanese tour, and at the 1/18 Korakuen Hall show (the second to last show), he was in tears backstage. The wrestlers from New Japan told him he needed to go to the hospital, but his seniors in CMLL told him he would be okay if he just drank heavily (that is something of a Mexican protocol in some circles).

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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oatgan posted:

I like that Thunder started wearing pads on his back to cover up his disgusting bacne because it's not like he ever bumps

what do you call this then

https://twitter.com/Jocay19/status/682647094629429248

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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He already mentioned being stacked with talent.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Yeah Marco got booted from the Gobers recently.

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Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Where is Thunder, where is he, where is Thunder

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