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Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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Burt Buckle posted:

I'm pretty pumped that CMLL now posts their Monday shows on YouTube. Does that other site save the Friday streams in a library or is it a one time only viewing?
I don't think they get archived but thecubsfan posts them on Tuesdays https://www.youtube.com/user/thecubsfan

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Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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I think they look awful and I wish they would just sell the original design.

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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Would that mean they're not actually doing the Monterrey rematch this weekend or just that they can't wrestle in Mexico City?

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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I enjoyed this match from last Tuesday 1/10: Dragón Lee, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Ephesto, Hechicero, Niebla Roja
Match starts at 1:17:30 if the timestamp doesn't work. Hechicero is real good, and there's more meat in the early falls than many of the current day CMLL trios matches.

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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thecubsfan started the 2017 MOTYC page yesterday so if you want to catch up on the best matches year-to-date, bookmark this and keep checking in on it:
http://www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/2017-moytc-list/

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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Probably not, he just had it as a link in a news post when I found it. I'm guessing it might be in a catch-up post this month. I watched it last night:

http://twitter.com/Boco_T/status/847980524270485504

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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The mascots match was very good.

Also relevant:
https://twitter.com/luchablog/status/850102597923024896

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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I'm still working through the backlog of matches I have bookmarked over the last few weeks.

I thought the Princesa Sugehit / Zeuxis title match from Puebla on 3/27 was very solid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkCtRc9aX68#t=4326s
Intros start around 1:12.

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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Continuing series of "Boco_T is way behind on lucha" I watched the Reyes del Aire and it was buck wild. Agree with the posts in the thread the day-of that the ending wasn't great, but still it was otherwise fantastic and is also the perfect thing to recommend to "person that likes wrestling but doesn't watch much lucha"

If you need a link to share: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcHy5NFrBcY#t=5372s
Intros at 1:29:30, match at 1:34:30

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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All right, I'm caught up on "well regarded CMLL matches in 2017" and the last one on the list was good: Dragon Lee vs. Niebla Roja from 5/2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZvdLcrUqTQ#t=4268s (Match at 1:11)

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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Soberano Jr. vs. Rey Cometa for the Mexican Welterweight Championship last night was a good match. Clarofeed died for the first fall but the third fall is the one you want anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meEahUPN4M8#t=5110s (1:25:10 is where the feed kicks back in)

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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With Maximo Sexy gone, it is high time to Put Hechicero On Top Forever

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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This is definitely both An Ultimo Guerrero Singles Match and A 2017 L.A. Park Match so I won't really say "go out of your way to see it" but I still had a good time watching it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHvk5Ycne94

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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Yeah I mean I have a couple of cubsfan-great matches from the past two weeks in my queue (Hamada/Taya, Cometa/Cavernario) but I am a Park fan first and foremost so I watched this first instead

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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It seems like the best use of your lucha energy is to subscribe to +LuchaTV on Youtube and just watch all the full matches they post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=user?mluchatv?videos

I watched two more and have come back to also recommend them:
Angel de Oro vs. Rey Horus - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYxSYnStbKI - Full of your more traditional flips and dives, good
Hijo de LA Park vs. Galactar (for the United States Junior Championship) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tUCDPkwVVM - I thought this was really good. Park's son has gotten it from his dad for sure. Although I don't know if "tope so hard your mask flies off" is necessarily good for your career longevity.

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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Someone PLEASE tape this on your phone

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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Back again with another post to say that even though AAA has almost no good matches these days, it is worth checking out this Reina de Reinas title match street fight between Taya and Ayako Hamada: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OazHhK9UmLw#t=1138s

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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Today's +Lucha match post is:
Carístico y Black Tauro vs L.A. Park y Hijo de L.A. Park, Lucha Libre Boom (5/19/17)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpiaQSvktYs

I'd put this one closer on the scale to "fun" than "good," but I didn't feel like I completely wasted my time watching it.

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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Might as well post these gifs here since I went ahead and made them:

Dr. Cerebro vs Freelance, IWRG (5/21/17) - Solid traditional style lucha match, both guys try to kill Freelance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD9uP1KzIos

https://twitter.com/Boco_T/status/871438591590883328

https://twitter.com/Boco_T/status/871438742422204416

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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Continuing my YTD catch-up on "thecubsfan rated these 'great'" non-CMLL matches, I just watched:
5 Match Fighters IWRG: Demonio Infernal, Aramis, Freelance, Araña de Plata y Black Dragon (1/22/17)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOteki1Nsoc

This match was entirely flips, dives, and head drops. No story or anything, just spots. I loved it and cannot recommend it more highly.

Also, please stop me if you're getting tired of me posting so much in the thread.

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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I caught up on my entire backlog of "thecubsfan Great" matches, and I am very happy with the last one I had on my list:
Daga & Rey Fénix (US) vs Sammy Guevara & Último Ninja (LyC, Arena Coliseo Monterrey, 04/09/2017)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfZLPN02FvU#t=302s (match entrances start at 5:02, match itself at 10:42)

Athletic, high paced match with an awesome large crowd. I only know lucha libre español so usually commentary doesn't sway me one way or the other, but the energetic solo Nacho Rodriguez commentary elevates it for me even more. This one's well worth your time.

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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Okay I lied, I had one more bookmark I forgot about and it was a barnburner. I'm gonna put it up as an Honorable Mention in the rec thread:
Zack Sabre Jr. vs Negro Navarro, Chairo 10 - MDA 2 (4/28/17)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDXmDP4aHpM

Negro Navarro is 59 years old, this is all lucha mat work, everything is perfect, I love it

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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MassRafTer posted:

I've been meaning to see that. Now I need to track down Ultimo Dragon vs Ultimo Guerrero even though I know it won't be as good as I want it to be.
I only see 3 clips of it on Youtube, no full match. Although it looks like they were taping it, maybe it will go on +Lucha this week. I actually watched a fan cam of Terry/Negro vs. Panther/Octagon and it was fine but the camerawork was not stable and was from way in the upper deck (and portrait shaped) so it wasn't necessarily worth it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USw1hUh4QfA

https://twitter.com/Boco_T/status/872944602516508672

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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The El Imposible / Super Mega title match that got posted on +Lucha was fine, probably not worth going out of your way to see. But I did have to post this particular spot:
https://twitter.com/Boco_T/status/874030561807015936

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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The Lucha Memes show from Puebla last weekend will be going up on +Lucha at 8 PM tonight. So we will get to see legit copies of Ultimo Guerrero vs. Ultimo Dragon and the Negro/Terry vs. Panther/Octagon match that I watched the cam of. Card also had Satanico vs. Hechicero that was supposed to be good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPowZ4Spoww

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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Here's the full Lucha Memes y MDA event:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t538_VNDUc

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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I hope this one gets taped and posted:

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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I finished the Ultimo Dragon Treinta Aniversario show. Nothing was a blow away, but all the matches were pretty good and the show flowed well because the file went from match to match quickly. It's a nice way to spend 2 hours watching some wrestling, especially if you don't watch that much lucha. Good show to put on for more casual audience.

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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I know the CMLL final last night was great but I was watching stuff in the order I had it in my RSS so I got watched this one first:

Virus vs. Prayer, Arena Coliseo San Ramón (3/25)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQZEXpRVYwo

They stretch each other for 20 minutes and it's very good. Almost the entire match is on the mat. The selling and pulling really gives weight to the moves that you don't always get with lucha submissions. Crowd and small arena make it look a little low key but the work is there and it's worth checking out.

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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This one's not a great match or anything, but it is a super wild brawl that is pretty fun. The main reason I'm posting it is that rudo Máximo RULES

Penta Zero M, Daga, Black Tauro y Samoano vs La Máscara, Máximo y Rey Escorpión, en Klandestino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaPccNnoykU

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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I don't know if this was taped for real, but it looks like these boys are up to their old tricks again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlHvVBGW7i4

I may have to watch this VERTICAL PHONE VIDEO of the match, I can't resist
L.A. Park & Caristico vs. Rush & Ultimo Guerrero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBG_yV44pSg

EDIT: I'm only like 12 minutes into this vertical video and it is extremely good and I'm glad I am watching it

Boco_T fucked around with this message at Jun 19, 2017 around 22:37

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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The video's making the rounds on Twitter so I wasn't the only one that went to Youtube today to search "Park Rush"

RobViper has some important tweets relevant to the match:

https://twitter.com/RobViper/status/876655265134899201
https://twitter.com/RobViper/status/876658799028908032
https://twitter.com/RobViper/status/876658986610720768
https://twitter.com/RobViper/status/876659131117174785
https://twitter.com/RobViper/status/876659664301195264

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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This weekend, Park's facing Wagner on Saturday and Park/Son are facing Mascara/Maximo on Sunday for MDA in Monterrey. He's actually double booked on Saturday because he and Mascara are on top of a trios at a 6 PM show and the Wagner match is on an 8:15 show.

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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Found some clips from Park's Saturday matches on Youtube:

Here's about 8 minutes of the trios match, basically just the Park/Mascara stuff, but the clip also includes Park pouring a beer down the ref's pants and slapping him on the back and stomach with his belt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gGJQU3X7nA

Then there's the last 12 minutes of Park/Wagner, but it's really slow paced and uneventful and has all your standard tropes so it's not worth your time unless you're bored:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aet4iGit31w

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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This may help: http://www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/2017...hile-in-mexico/

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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This week's Lucha and L.A. Park Bookings Update:

I couldn't find footage of the Park/Hijo vs. Mascara/Maximo match from Sunday.

Matt Tremont is in Mexico this week, which is pretty cool to me.

L.A. Park's bookings:
Friday - Park/Hijo vs. Hijo de Wagner Jr/Hijo del Espectro Jr - Arena Campeones
Saturday - Park vs. Penta 0M vs. Mascara - Arena Neza - I hope and pray this one gets taped
Sunday - Park vs. Silver King Ramses vs. Rayman - Arena Jalisco

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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Considering I loaded the file saying "I don't wanna watch these big boys have a slow match," I would rate this one strongly in the "very fun" category and would say it's worth your time watching at 1.5x especially:

Ángel o Demonio y Ovett vs Paranoiko y Tóxico, en DTU Expo Luchas Pachuca
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiwrGNoOk30

Ángel o Demonio's comedy game is strong, that carries the whole thing for me. Check it out if you haven't watched big guys having a basic lucha brawl in a while.

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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Here's a ringside handheld of the Park/Penta/Mascara match. It's fine, total schmoz and some unknown amount is missing from the clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpK94nhNl30

+Lucha posted the full pro version of Park/Wagner from last weekend, but I haven't rewatched this version to see if it would change my review from "not really worth your time"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgvm8EVqTwo

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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"Star Battle With A Destroyed Car (Windshield, Taillights, Rear Window, Doors, Tires, Fenders)"


I did watch the full Park/Wagner match and with commentary and professional camera work I am willing to upgrade my review of it to "fun."

If you feel a shiver of anticipation, it's because Park and Rush are on opposite sides of a trios match tomorrow at Arena Jose Sulaiman:

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Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

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Very good 10-minute técnico contra técnico sprint:

Dinamic Black vs. Aramis
IWRG - 7/9/17 - Arena Naucalpan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0kxfIrKgnQ

All the flips and dives you want, a cool finish. Dinamic Black's only 25.

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