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Weren't the Karn people Time Lords that got exiled? Or am I misremembering. Because if they are Doctor, the gently caress have you been going on about being the last of the Time Lords? I mean they're lovely space hermits who live in a cave, but it's not like Galifrey was much better.
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# ? Sep 11, 2015 15:35 |
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Burkion posted:Weren't the Karn people Time Lords that got exiled? Or am I misremembering. The Sisterhood are technically Gallifreyans, rather than Time Lords, although how watered down that has gone over the years is up for debate.
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# ? Sep 11, 2015 15:53 |
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CobiWann posted:One of the underlying themes of Doctor Who has always been one of the villains going “hang on a moment. Are WE the baddies?” I always thought it'd be interesting if they introduced a character who used to be a galaxy-conquering villain but who had actually listened to the Doctor, gotten help, and changed their ways. Of course if it was a recurring character some writer would eventually have them turn evil again. After The War posted:Ah, the Flesh Time! I like how the Doctor knows Monarch is still organic because an android wouldn't have come up with his crazy plan. (Never mind all the insane computers and robots the Doctor has met over the years.)
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# ? Sep 11, 2015 16:07 |
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MrL_JaKiri posted:I think the worst Adric story is Four to Doomsday. Shouting about how all women are stupid. I mean I'm fully on board with his "Study mathematics" policy plank, but... The best one is Earthshock, with Janet Fielding and Sarah Sutton corpsing into each other during Adric's death scene.
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# ? Sep 11, 2015 16:36 |
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The_Doctor posted:The Sisterhood are technically Gallifreyans, rather than Time Lords, although how watered down that has gone over the years is up for debate. The hell are they still alive for then Doctor stop moping about all of your relatives being dead! You've got an entire cave full!
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# ? Sep 11, 2015 16:41 |
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Since joining Hulu+ I've dug into their classic Who archive- I'm 2/3rds of the way through the E-Space trilogy, and okay, State of Decay is why everyone hates Adric, right? His introductory story makes him seem normal enough, then he's like "hmm, immortality and all the blood I can drink? Sure!" I know it's another universe and all, cultural mores are different, but drat that's dumb. Still good couple of stories though- The Leisure Hive is uneven but here you can really see JNT's emphasis on trying to give the show more style and atmosphere, and bring in some weird sci-fi ideas.
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# ? Sep 11, 2015 16:57 |
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Maxwell Lord posted:Since joining Hulu+ I've dug into their classic Who archive- I'm 2/3rds of the way through the E-Space trilogy, and okay, State of Decay is why everyone hates Adric, right? I think the general consensus is that Adric was OK when he was under Tom Baker because Tom Baker was this overwhelming force of personality that squashed the poor dope whenever he got annoying. AFTER Tom left is when Adric gets really bad because there were so many companions and Peter was a very different kind of Doctor.
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# ? Sep 11, 2015 16:59 |
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Maxwell Lord posted:His introductory story makes him seem normal enough, then he's like "hmm, immortality and all the blood I can drink? Sure!" I know it's another universe and all, cultural mores are different, but drat that's dumb. The reason is that Adric was foisted on Terrance Dicks after the story had been written, so something had to be hastily done to include it. In general, mind, his modus operandi is "Shout about how smart you are, then go help the villain" and people writing later stories have no excuse at all.
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CobiWann posted:I agree that it wasn't the best way to introduce the Daleks to Big Finish, with a weak script and some spotty performances (I felt Ace whined too much and McCoy was just bored the whole time). The library's concept was neat, as was the Dalek's actual plan to sit and wait for a Time Lord in order to break in. I loved the fact the the Daleks used the information they stole from the library to formulate their plan for "The Apocalypse Element". The_Doctor posted:The Sisterhood are technically Gallifreyans, rather than Time Lords, although how watered down that has gone over the years is up for debate. I don't think the Sisterhood are Gallifreyans, though Karn is a planet neighboring Gallifrey. So I listened to the 3rd Doctor Boxset, and while neither story is an instant classic, both are pretty enjoyable, with "The Havoc of Empires" being the better of the two. And the answer to the big question: while I was extremely doubtful, I did find myself enjoying Tim Treloar as the Third Doctor. While he couldn't nail Pertwee's gravelly voice, he NAILED the cadence. At the end of the bonus, David Richardson said they are planning to do more, and I do find myself looking forward to it. And BF renewed Torchwood for a second series, starting in March 2016, which means twelve uninterrupted months of Torchwood. One thing that's interesting is that in BF's new issue of Vortex, Gary Russell revealed that his original plans was for Torchwood series 1 was to take place post-"Miracle Day", but when he left the project, and James Goss took over, Goss decided to set it earlier. Though they hint that they still have plans for Gary Russell's ideas.
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Davros1 posted:I don't think the Sisterhood are Gallifreyans, though Karn is a planet neighboring Gallifrey. Yeah, it always seemed more like they were both very old races in a long-standing Immortality Agreement.
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After The War posted:Yeah, it always seemed more like they were both very old races in a long-standing Immortality Agreement. The French and the Spanish?
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# ? Sep 11, 2015 22:25 |
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CobiWann posted:The French and the Spanish? We'll obviously need to call in an expert on 18th-century Europolitics to solve this one!
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# ? Sep 11, 2015 22:32 |
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I wonder who'd have ended up playing Eight if Paul McGann hadn't broken his leg and was able to do Sharpe.
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# ? Sep 11, 2015 23:19 |
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Davros1 posted:
Ok, buckle up kids, it's about to get nerdy af in here. Karn is a Gallifreyan/Time Lord colony world, The Sisterhood being the remains of the Pythia priestesses who were ousted out of power when Rassilon's age of science and reason came to fruition on Gallifrey. This would make the Sisterhood Gallifreyan by default, but how many of them 'now' are those original priestesses is always going to be a mystery. Naturally born Gallifreyans may have a longer than human lifespan, but we've no indication how much longer. Presumably by now the Sisterhood is a mishmash of races.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Since joining Hulu+ I've dug into their classic Who archive- I'm 2/3rds of the way through the E-Space trilogy, and okay, State of Decay is why everyone hates Adric, right? When I was a kid watching the show and Adric turned up I knew things were going downhill. Adding a kid (well, teenager in this case) to the cast to appeal to the youngsters was always a sign that a show had turned rotten (this being about ten years before the term "jump the shark" became in vogue). And then Adric was a horrible character, essentially the Westley Crusher of Doctor Who. It was like a double whammy of terribleness. Oh, since you're watching on Hulu+, you will want to flip over to Amazon Prime Instant Video for Earthshock at the appropriate point. You don't want to skip that one. Anyhoo, I purchased The Wrong Doctors in that Big Finish sale last week and I've got to say that it's not quite my favorite multi-Doctor story, but it is one of the best of them. That was a lot of fun even if I feel like it didn't really hold together toward the end...
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After The War posted:Who could the (male) enemy the Doctor is talking about be? Is it Davros, or the character that Terry Malloy said he couldn't play in Big Finish recently because they'll be showing up this season? I don't know what's going on with the spoilers, but I'm gonna assume that the "he" in the short is just the Master and nobody's sure how pronouns work for Time Lords with regenerations of multiple genders. It's on Karn, so it's probably Gallifrey related, and we know Missy is showing up in the first episode, to which this is a prequel.
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Random Stranger posted:When I was a kid watching the show and Adric turned up I knew things were going downhill. Adding a kid (well, teenager in this case) to the cast to appeal to the youngsters was always a sign that a show had turned rotten (this being about ten years before the term "jump the shark" became in vogue). And then Adric was a horrible character, essentially the Westley Crusher of Doctor Who. It was like a double whammy of terribleness. I'm no novice, I've seen Earthshock and a little of every era, just have a lot I haven't seen yet.
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# ? Sep 12, 2015 01:56 |
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The_Doctor posted:Ok, buckle up kids, it's about to get nerdy af in here. Have you seen The Brain of Morbius?
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# ? Sep 12, 2015 10:22 |
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Cos in traditional fan wanky style that is pretty much all directly contradicted by their only TV appearance
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# ? Sep 12, 2015 10:22 |
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What do we actually get about the sisterhood from the Brain of Morbius? Because that's all that matters to the TV show writers.
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# ? Sep 12, 2015 10:33 |
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When I use the word Pythia, it should flag I'm not using TV sources.
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MikeJF posted:What do we actually get about the sisterhood from the Brain of Morbius? Because that's all that matters to the TV show writers.
That's about it, but there's a few more bits and pieces that may or may not be relevant (eg the Doctor says he was born "a few million miles away" from Karn, whether this means Karn is v near Gallifrey or that Dicks/Holmes don't understand astronomic scales is up to you)
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# ? Sep 12, 2015 10:58 |
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So I may have just bought my first Secret Santa gift.
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# ? Sep 12, 2015 16:22 |
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Ah, The Invisible Enemy, the story with an infection that turns you into Rowan Williams
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"There should have been another way" - Me after watching Warriors of the Deep
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# ? Sep 12, 2015 19:47 |
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MrL_JaKiri posted:"There should have been another way" - Me after watching Warriors of the Deep You went straight from Invisible Enemy to Warriors of the Deep? You may need to watch some high-contrast porn to give your eyes a break from all that overlighting.
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I'm watching Black Orchid with the commentary because it takes the edge off.
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# ? Sep 12, 2015 20:44 |
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Short Synopsis: IT TURNS OUT THE REAL MONSTER IS MAN Long Synopsis: The Doctor unknowingly brings Peri to Mars, and the tomb of an ancient Ice Warrior Warlord. An expedition from Earth arrives with mixed intentions, and some lessons on nobility, sacrifice and keeping your word are learned, too late for some. What's Good:
What's Not:
Final Thoughts: Red Dawn, despite all the bad things I've just said about it, was actually a very enjoyable story to listen to. But it is enjoyable despite its many flaws, and for me this is primarily down to the treatment and writing of the Ice Warriors. The subplot of Zzaal's attempts to educate his underlings (and in particularly his Sub-Commander) on nobility and the true meaning of being a warrior elevate this story, and the way it climaxes by paralleling Zzaal's story of his relationship with his own mentor is very well done. The Doctor's quiet words with the Sub-Commander after all is said and done are very touching, though this is let down slightly by the Doctor and Peri then going into jokey,"Where shall we go next!?! " mode despite all the death and destruction they've just seen. I understand there has been some kind of follow-up to this story, and I can only hope they learned their lessons from this one and focused on what was really good without making the same mistakes that unfortunately dragged this story down. Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Sep 13, 2015 |
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Jerusalem posted:Short Synopsis: IT TURNS OUT THE REAL MONSTER IS MAN I have a section for that in my dynamic villains ranking list
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They're currently just behind the Dalekscode:
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Jerusalem posted:[timg]http://i.imgur.com/SRadQvl.jpg[/timg Well, they were on Mars, in their natural habitat, and he is an Ice Lord, after all. The funny thing about the younger sister character in this was Davison had asked BF to write something he could act in with his daughter. So BF told Justin Richards to put a young girl character in his script, which he admitted was kind of hard to logistically work out. Meanwhile, the next Davison story, "Winter for the Adept" was set in a all girls school.
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I found Red Dawn kind of boring, mainly because the script was full of coincidences and misunderstandings to the point of predictability. So maybe not so much "boring" so much as "easy to call so I tuned out." As for the cover...
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Okay, this one is kind of cool. And it features the "c'mon, REALLY?" face more appropriate to his character that we don't get to see enough in Davison promotional shots/covers/etc.
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The_Doctor posted:Ok, buckle up kids, it's about to get nerdy af in here. Yes, to be completely fair this is all from the Cartmel Masterplan inspired NAs, which while I love that origin story it's all been blown out by stuff seen on tv (ie Gallifreyan children onscreen in multiple episodes and the Doctor spending his childhood on a farm and not in a giant House). On screen it's just implied that the Sisterhood are neighbors of Gallifrey, and have technology/magic that was of a comparable level to the Time Lords as they developed regeneration, and they grudgingly help out from time to time. Their actual origins are vague. The_Doctor posted:Or if they read the 12th Doctor books, as she's just turned up in one. Whhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? OK, guess it's time to go buy a 12th Doctor book! I just read the synopsis and Gary Russell is going straight up NA in this one. The NA writers slowly brought their canon back into the 90s BBC Books run despite being explicitly told not to, it's only a matter of time before it happens again! And of course when we finally get the inevitable crossover between River and Benny by Big Finish, it will finally make the NAs completely canon. Though now that I think about it, there's no reason why the Looms and Time's Crucible couldn't co-exist with the new stuff we've seen about Gallifrey on the show. The Time War can mean that contradictory origins of the Daleks between their original appearance and Genesis can be just altered timelines, who's to say Daleks didn't manage to monkey with Ancient Gallifrey at some point?
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Astroman posted:Though now that I think about it, there's no reason why the Looms and Time's Crucible couldn't co-exist with the new stuff we've seen about Gallifrey on the show. The Time War can mean that contradictory origins of the Daleks between their original appearance and Genesis can be just altered timelines, who's to say Daleks didn't manage to monkey with Ancient Gallifrey at some point? Whenever something doesn't make sense
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CobiWann posted:As for the cover... None of these are particularly great (the middle one is probably the best) but they're all 45 billion billion percent better than the one they're using on the Big Finish site to advertise it. My God that cover is TERRIBLE.
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'Dot dot dot, dash dash dash, dot dot dot. Someone's listening. Somewhere.' A ghost ship. A girl with no memory, adrift in time. An old enemy. This could be Charlotte Pollard's finest hour - or her last. Set course for Singapore, 1931. Journey's end. Paul McGann is the Doctor in The Girl Who Never Was. X X X X X Cast Paul McGann (The Doctor) India Fisher (Charley Pollard) Danny Webb (Byron) Anna Massey (Miss Pollard) Amanda Root (Madeleine Fairweather) David Yip(Curly) Robert Duncan (Borthwick) Natalie Mendoza (Receptionist) Tim Sutton(Colville) Jake McGann (Young Man) Nicholas Briggs (Soldier) Written By: Alan Barnes Directed By: Barnaby Edwards Trailer - https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/popout/the-girl-who-never-was-269 X X X X X Every story will come to an end. Friends graduate and go their separate ways. A beloved movie trilogy or television show has its final episode. The concluding book in a series is published. A newspaper or Internet column puts up its last words. And beloved companions say goodbye. Every story should come to an end. Things simply aren't meant to last forever. Emotions, finances, fatigue, entropy, or sometimes there simply are no more stories that need to be told. It's often bittersweet, sometimes celebratory, but always necessary to know when to walk away and more importantly to know when to let someone or something walk away. The Girl Who Never Was is Charlotte Pollard's final story with the Eighth Doctor, and she goes out in fine style. In stark contrast to C'rizz's farewell in Absolution, this tale is packed with twists and turns (although some are predictable), some fine performances (and some cringeworthy), a classic villain (with a typically convoluted scheme), and several great examples of the chemistry between India Fisher and Paul McGann that has defined their audio relationship. As an overall story, The Girl Who Never Was is pretty good and rather enjoyable. As a farewell story, it works on every level that such a tale needs to and gives Charley the opportunity to go out on a very high note. Singapore harbor. Charley is ready to say goodbye to the Eighth Doctor, and the parting is far from amicable. The Doctor acquiesces to Charley's request, but the TARDIS places the duo in not in Singapore 1930, but rather Singapore 2008. While Charley accuses to the Doctor of trying to make stay, the Doctor realizes that there is a anomaly that is bumping the TARDIS off course, occurring in Singapore 1942. But that doesn't mean a thing to Charley...but a stranger overhearing her name “convinces” her that it does. There's a legendary ship that has been sighted throughout the years near Singapore, a ship that originally disappeared in 1942 while fleeing the Japanese invasion. While the stranger is more interested in breaking into the ship's hold, what no one realizes is that someone inside the ship's hold is interested in breaking out – someone that the Doctor and Charley encountered a long time ago... The “creator” of Charlotte Pollard, veteran Doctor Who writer Alan Barnes, returns to write her final episode. Not only is Barnes a fine writer with plenty of novel and comic experience until his belt, but when it comes to Charley's overall character arc, Barnes has penned the keystone stories – Storm Warning, Neverland, Zagreus, The Next Life, and now The Girl Who Never Was. Barnes' script for this story follows his standard blueprint, creating a serviceable, solid story that relies on the relationship between Charley and the Doctor to carry the day. Barnes starts off with an appropriately creepy setting, a old tramp freighter that escaped from Singapore during the Japanese invasion, the SS Batavia. The ship vanished in the Karimata Strait, assumed sunk by a Japanese torpedo. But during intense electrical storms, captains have reported see the freighter floating in the distance before suddenly vanishing from sight and from radar. The premise of an abandoned ship with no bodies on boards is one Doctor Who has done time and time before, way back in the First Doctor story The Chase, but also appeals to me on a personal level as a fan of stories like Ghost Ship and Dead Space, with a lick of The Philadelphia Experiment thrown in. Barnes throws in some snappy dialogue, a bit of decent characterization and interaction, and three pretty solid cliffhangers and a gripping finale. If The Girl Who Never Was was simply a tale of a haunted ship and greedy sailors interested in salvage, it would have been a solid adventure audio. But Barnes raises the stakes as appropriate for a farewell story be introducing a foe Charley has met before – the Cybermen. Charley had met the Cybermen during her second adventure with the Doctor in the story Sword of Orion. These are the old style Telos/Mondas Cybermen of the buzzing voices and overriding motive of “we muzzzzzt survive.” Their reveal at the end of the second episode is greeting by the tell-tale stomping metal footsteps and “you will become like us” would have ranked as one of the greatest cliffhangers in the history of Big Finish...if the CD cover hadn't spoiled their appearance. Still, the Cybermen themselves are presented very well in this story. Their motive is survival of their race by conversion – first of the humans onboard the SS Batavia, than of the rest of humanity, with a neat twist involving time travel (or “translation” as the Cybermen call it) and a stranded Cybermen time-ship in the year 500,002 A.D. These Cybermen are trapped in their own circle of logic, unable to act without their orders being confirmed or updated by the Cyberplanner, and their final fate is a well-done circle of logic that locks them in their own temporal loop. It's one of the finest examples of the Cybermen so far for Big Finish (after Spare Parts and an upcoming Eight Doctor Adventures story) and one miles better than most of their revival appearances, especially since Nicholas Briggs NAILS the voice and cadence of the old school Cybermen. The human supporting cast varies from the “wow, that's kind of racist” accents of the hotel receptionist and a police detective on the streets of Singapore to Amanda Root's solid performance as Madeline Fairweather, the token female character on a ship full of blokes (her “reveal” is supposed to be a surprise, but her “male” voice is so obviously female it's not a surprise at all). Veteran British actress Anna Massey plays Miss Pollard, revealed as part of the first episode cliffhanger. Massey plays the older “seen it all” character who doesn't have time for the gruff of a young man, and both her and Barnes present a hint of mystery...this person can't possibly be Charlotte Pollard, could she? Maybe, with all the time-travel shenanigans going to and fro. The standout secondary character is Danny Webb, who plays two versions of the character Byron, one on 1942 and one in 2008. Known to Who fans as John Jefferson from The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit, Webb plays the smarmy, greedy, slimy Australian scallywag almost as the mirror image of the Doctor. Where the Doctor is cautious, Byron is greedy to the point of recklessness. Where the Doctor is wary of the Cybermen, Byron immediately cuts a deal with them. When the Doctor knows it's time to go, Byron tries to go even further. Byron's final fate before his final fate isn't a surprise, and leads into Charley's final moments in the TARDIS. There is a bit of charm in Webb's performance, just enough to make the listener think Byron might be redeemed and feel just a bit of “oh, you fool” at his demise. During C'rizz's time in the TARDIS, I felt that Paul McGann's performance spent more time in neutral than in gear, and he never really clicked with the alien companion. When the Doctor was on his own, there was a hint of a spark in McGann's dialogue. But it's when McGann was opposite Indian Fisher that he truly shined. Even though the Doctor and Charley spend most of The Girl Who Never Was separated by events, the listener can sense the eagerness and sense of adventure in McGann's voice. He doesn't want Charley to go, and those moments where he believes she's truly lost to him are emotionally gripping. But until then, he's still trying to tempt her into more adventures, almost to the point of ignoring her concerns about traveling with him and his lack of empathy towards C'rizz's death. In a farewell story that's about Charley, McGann does a drat good turn in showing just WHY Charley was so important to him, not just in the natural wit and back-and-forth banter, but with something deeper, the non-romantic love between them. McGann's no slouch during the rest of the story, mind you. His dialogue with Miss Pollard adds to the mystery that this older woman just might be Charley just by how natural and free-flowing the chemistry is between McGann and Anna Massey, and there are plenty of “Doctor” moments where Eight's quiet “you really don't want to do that's” and his “not quite shouting levels of anger” are on display. It's a great balance by McGann – Eight's boundless energy disguising his sadness at Charley's departure. One of the big concerns with Absolution was that, even though it was his farewell story, C'rizz really didn't tie into the story's major events which made his presence almost an afterthought. There's none of that here, as Barnes put Charley right into the heart of the action. India Fisher doesn't hold back in her final performance with the Eighth Doctor. Her anger at the beginning of the story is a little childish and petulant, but it comes from the place of a young woman who knows that she's reached the end of her travels and is just showing it in the way a young woman might. As Charley gets drawn into the events involving the Cybermen, her determination to leave is mixed with her “enjoyment” at the action. She might not like events as they happen, but there's no denying the thrill of adventure Charley experiences with the Doctor, the most oddest man she's ever met. Barnes' script mixes Charley in charge with Charley under guard and even Charley under the thrall of the Cybermen as the heir-apparent to the throne of the Cyberplanner, and Fisher is wonderful in all of her parts, even in this final moments where, in a way, she's the Doctor helping defeat the threat of the Cybermen through clever thinking and some improvisation. I can't praise Fisher's turn her enough, as The Girl Who Nevers Was does what Absolution couldn't – show just how competent Charley is without the Doctor at her side as well as showing just as amazing she is WHEN the Doctor is at her side (and vice versa). There's a bit of a fake-out at one point as the Doctor attempts to save Charley's brain from being burned out by a Cyberman virus by hypnotizing her to forget their travels together (ala Journey's End, and here I am contractually obligated to say I still haven't forgiven RTD for what he did to Donna). It's a moment that could have been heartbreaking as the Doctor tries to explain to an amnesiac Charley what happened without triggering her memories...but sometimes, enough wonderful things happen that your brain just goes “sod it” and refuses to forget them, and it's a great little scene that, even though it's the end, reaffirms the Charley/Eight dynamic. But there's a final twist involving Byron and the Cybermen's time ship, the Doctor being “killed,” and Charley sacrificing herself in the year 500,002 to ensure the Cybermen are locked in their closed time loop and Byron meets his just fate. When it comes to pieces of fiction, it depends on how the story ends. I prefer mediocre movies with great endings over great movies with mediocre endings. The one job that The Girl Who Never Was had to perform was giving Charley a proper sendoff on both her end and on the Doctor's end. On the Doctor's end, it's a bit of temporal misunderstanding, as he races back to Singapore in an attempt to find/save her, only to find that she's left him a note...the note that she originally had written him before her kidnapping by Byron... quote:Dear Doctor. It’s been such a long journey for both of us. I never, ever wanted it to end, but end it has. We both know that. A long time ago now, I said you were the oddest man I’d ever met. You’re that still. You’re the best man I’ve ever met too. But we’ve chanced our luck once too often, I think, so I’m bailing out. Escape strategy number five. I’m going to disappear. There’s no freedom like being dead. I can go anywhere, be anyone I want. Just like a Time Lord really. Don’t look for me, please. But remember me. I’ll remember you, always. This letter sums up everything about the relationship between Charley and Eight. The Girl Who Never Was is a grand finale for Charlotte Pollard – Cybermen, temporal twists and turns, her possible existence outside the Web of Time, and a final sacrifice to ensure the safety and survival of the Doctor. Alan Barnes gives India Fisher (and Paul McGann) everything she needs to send her out in style, giving her the final word and adding the final coda to her and the Doctor's time together. This was one was a bit hard for me. Eight is MY Doctor, and Charley was a grand companion. I know Lucie Miller and Molly O'Sullivan are coming up, and it's going to get even more heartbreaking...but I know how the story goes. And so does the Doctor. quote:You work in a hotel. You should know. Everybody leaves. http://tinyurl.com/q23qeoz Pros + Paul McGann and India Fisher with their finest double act + An epic ending suitable to Charley + The direction by Barnaby Edwards keeps the action moving + Andy Hardwick and Gareth Jenkins do a great job with the sound effects putting the listener in Singapore/onboard the SS Batavia (apologies to both for not mentioning so in the review proper!) + The Cybermen, the way they're SUPPOSED to be Cons - The slightly racist accents in the first episode Cobi's Synopsis – Journey's end for Charlotte Pollard, as The Girl Who Never Was sends her off in grand style at the hands of the Cybermen, India Fisher's chemistry with Paul McGann on full display all the way to the poignant ending. X X X X X However... After the ending theme concludes, we here a familiar refrain... Dot dot dot, dash dash dash, dot dot dot Charley, having made a crystal set out of the remains of the destroyed Cybership, sits on an abandoned Earth tapping out an S.O.S, a signal in a bottle out into a vast temporal sea, knowing that somewhere, somehow, the Doctor will be listening...and the familiar wheezing groan of the TARDIS is her salvation. But the man inside the TARDIS wasn't who she expected. A man in a patchwork coat of many colors.
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CobiWann posted:Cobi's Synopsis – Journey's end for Charlotte Pollard, as The Girl Who Never Was sends her off in grand style at the hands of the Cybermen, India Fisher's chemistry with Paul McGann on full display all the way to the poignant ending. The story is okay, a little weak in parts, strong in others, but otherwise pretty standard fare. Where it excels for me is in the emotional sense, it's a great goodbye for Charlie and the writer/actors do a pretty great job of building up to that final (kind of!) parting. I love the little mid-credits twist as well.
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Jerusalem posted:The story is okay, a little weak in parts, strong in others, but otherwise pretty standard fare. Where it excels for me is in the emotional sense, it's a great goodbye for Charlie and the writer/actors do a pretty great job of building up to that final (kind of!) parting. I love the little mid-credits twist as well. What did you think of the Cybermen?
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