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Linear Zoetrope
Nov 28, 2011

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Flatlined is great, you guys.

That is all.

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I honestly had no clue who John Hurt was before everyone was gabbing about him for Who. I still don't really know. I look at his filmography and I've seen him a couple of times I guess. But mostly because of ancillary roles like "narrator in the Tigger movie" or "the wand shop dude in the first Harry Potter movie".

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The_Doctor posted:

Hurt's been in some utterly fantastic films, which you should check out. Also, you've never seen Alien?

I have not. Nor 1984 (I read the book...).

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Jerusalem posted:

In our first story, John Frobisher has mysteriously returned to life but with no memory of the events of Children of Earth. Kept inside the Torchwood Institute by Captain Jack, the confused man has become convinced he is the mysterious Doctor that Jack sometimes mentions, and recounts imaginary adventures about his adventures in Time and Space with a variety of companions, the first of whom will be played by Jenna Coleman.

Later, Jack and Gwen go to a museum and see a painting made after Pompeii of a man that looks almost exactly like Frobisher. This sets them out on a quest to find more info on The Impossible Boy.

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Jsor posted:

Later, Jack and Gwen go to a museum and see a painting made after Pompeii of a man that looks almost exactly like Frobisher. This sets them out on a quest to find more info on The Impossible Boy.

An Actual Review Site posted:

"I'm not sure I see the point of writing a 2 hour audio drama, if 1 hour of that is just going to be the moans of Captain Jack and 12 Peter Capaldis."

Cobiwann posted:


In our first story, John Frobisher has mysteriously returned to life but with no memory of the events of Children of Earth. Kept inside the Torchwood Institute by Captain Jack, the confused man has become convinced he is the mysterious Doctor that Jack sometimes mentions, and recounts imaginary adventures about his adventures in Time and Space with a variety of companions, the first of whom will be played by Jenna Coleman.

Later, Jack and Gwen go to a museum and see a painting made after Pompeii of a man that looks almost exactly like Frobisher. This sets them out on a quest to find more info on The Impossible Boy.

Cast
John Barrowman (Captain Jack Harkness)
John Barrowman (The Face of Boe)
Jenna Coleman (Clara Oswald)
Eve Myles (Gwen Cooper)
Peter Capaldi (John Frobisher)
Peter Capaldi (Lobus Caecilius)
Peter Capaldi (The Doctor)
Peter Capaldi (A Stripper)
Peter Capaldi (A Future Stripper?)
Peter Capaldi (A Past Stripper?)
Peter Capaldi (Sexy Cyberman)
Peter Capaldi (Caligula)
Peter Capaldi (Marquis de Sade)
Peter Capaldi (A Cannibal)
Peter Capaldi (Thomas Harper (Owen Harper's unmentioned son))
Peter Capaldi (Older John Hart)

Written By: Alan Smithee
Directed By: Alan Smithee

X X X X X

:stare:

0/5
X X X X X

Next up - When a horde of frogs descends on a small Welsh village, the sheriff has no choice but to call upon an expert with whom she shares a horrible past...

Burn Gorman is Owen Harper in...Torchwood: Reign of the Amphibs.

Jerusalem posted:

This story was quite difficult to listen to[...]

I'm not sure I will ever be same after listening to this. I may have to swear off audio dramas forever due to the constant nightmares.

Doctor What posted:

I can't help but feel this would have been better served as a 6th Doctor story. His personality and Colin Baker's voice is much better suited for this sort of episode.

Toxxupation posted:

Big Finish's Torchwood
"The Impossible Boy"

This is the best drama I've ever experienced. It rivals Moffat's masterful, intricately planned writing in every way.

A++
Random Thoughts:
  • Bet you didn't expect that. :smug:
  • I can't believe you nerds thought it would be a good idea to bet money on my audio drama grades.

Linear Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 00:12 on May 4, 2015

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CobiWann posted:

Just beautiful, Jsor! Forgot one thing though...

X X X X X

Next up - When a horde of frogs descends on a small Welsh village, the sheriff has no choice but to call upon an expert with whom she shares a horrible past...

Burn Gorman is Owen Harper in...Torchwood: Reign of the Amphibs.

It's there now!

Linear Zoetrope
Nov 28, 2011

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Man, I just saw the second Thor movie and it made me appreciate his Doctor even more. Holy poo poo did they waste him in that film. He wasn't even bad, he was just given nothing other than some made up fantasy gibberish language and scowling.

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Nov 28, 2011

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I thought Time of the Doctor was okay. TBH, it was closer to what I was expecting the anniversary to be -- fanservice where they just threw all of the Doctor's enemies at him. In retrospect I'm glad Day of the Doctor was what it was, but Time is a pretty decent episode if you just think of it as 50th anniversary fan porn.

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Nov 28, 2011

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Is "The Science of Doctor Who" any good? Usually these types are specials are either fascinating or horrible. Netflix is recommending it to me. I'm a bit concerned it's all going to be about ill-conceived half-cocked hypotheses about how a TARDIS could work.

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Peak Sontaran evolution:

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docbeard posted:

Clearly, since we didn't see everyone on Earth wake up in the episode, it means that the entire planet has been subjugated by the dream crabs, including several companions the Doctor has completely forgotten about.

- Joseph Lidster

Nah, the next episode another crab will shrivel up, revealing Christopher Eccleston wondering what the hell just happened.

SirSamVimes posted:

The reason I'm okay with the fakeout at the end is that the episode has been fakeout after fakeout, so one more isn't really egregious.

I don't really have the problem with the fakeout in and of itself, so much as the fact that the episode and season narrative works so much better without it. But Clara's also my favorite companion so I can't really complain about Jenna staying on.

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Nov 28, 2011

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The moon secretly being a space dragon egg is a super cool idea you could do a lot with, but the weird "the moon's gravity has increased" plot excuse was a bit dumb.

I'm not 100% sure I feel about the climax of the episode. It had a weird soup of very good and extremely bad elements.

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Nov 28, 2011

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Android Blues posted:

My main problem with Forest of the Night is Clara's "better for everyone to die, than some people to live" speech. It feels weirdly jarring and not like anything anyone reasonable would ever think, kind of like it's just shoehorned in to talk about the Doctor's situation as the last of his race.

I don't remember the speech that well, but I think she has a point. I mean, making that choice for other people is a bit weird, but having a number of people survive below the minimum viable population would be pretty harrowing on those involved. I don't think it's as clear cut as the idealistic "living is better". I'm not sure being one of the last 20 humans -- especially if none of those other ones are your family -- is necessarily worth living. It's a thing that's up to the person and the circumstances.

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Nov 28, 2011

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I really don't care even if there was a real botanical explanation for that (I'm not saying there is, just if), like sufficiently hydrated trees are super fire retardant or something. There's a certain level of violating folk knowledge that you can't do in fiction. It'd be different if this was The Magic School Bus or something and it belabored the point for education, but even if it were correct it violates so much cultural programming over firewood and forest fires it's mind breaking.

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Nov 28, 2011

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I liked Forest just fine as a mediocre episode until everyone started pointing out the unfortunate implications about mental health. I recall that being the general trend when it aired, it seemed like most people had meh first reactions until we got to deconstructing it. It's one of those episodes that's more memetically bad than obviously bad. Which is why I think I'm going to hedge like hell whenever Occ gets to it. Kill the Moon had a much more immediately visceral reaction from people.

Linear Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 04:34 on May 25, 2015

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Doctor Spaceman posted:

You could fix the mental health stuff and you'd still be left with a fantastically stupid episode about non-burning trees and where the protagonists have no impact on the plot.

Sure, but it's not really bad, it's just another random filler episode that you could skip. Other than the mental health poo poo, the episode is just fantastically there to me. Like, "yes, that sure is an episode of Doctor Who that aired. Not much else to say about it." It's just like Love and Monsters is mostly kind of a sloppily written tongue in cheek episode about Doctor Who turbo nerds until we get to the Abzorbaloff and the blowjob cinderblock.

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Nov 28, 2011

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BSam posted:

Could be some of you are remembering Ghostbusters a little too fondly.

Clearly subtle indoctrination

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Nov 28, 2011

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Doctor Who: 10 Years of ignoring the episodes and talking about audios Ghostbusters and dickless people

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The_Doctor posted:

Wesley/Alexis Denisof's English accent is astoundingly good. I say this as an Englishman that I had no clue he wasn't one of us. A few years later I heard his real American accent and it's the most cringeworthy Californian accent, real "oh wow gee" stuff.

Alexis Denisof sounds objectively incorrect with his native accent.

Bicyclops posted:

It's worse, really. They give everyone a random collection of British accents. Buffy and Frasier are probably the funniest examples - Daphne's family has people with accents from everywhere except where she's from, including Australia, and of course, Anthony Head has to do a sputtering RP, but he also had to coach the American James Marsters on doing his accent, to say nothing of Drusilla, Angelus or Wesley, all of whom are Americans affecting some different accent from the Isles.

I think the best part of Buffy was when James Marsters had to affect Tony Head's accent affecting a Texan accent.

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Nov 28, 2011

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I've heard mixed reports, everyone seems to agree he was awful when he first appeared. But I've seen about a 50/50 split on British people liking/not liking his accent later in the series.

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Nov 28, 2011

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Really you should watch through series 4, then go back and watch every classic episode (including the reconstructions!!!!!!!!!), then listen to all the audios. Only then can you touch 5 and beyond.

Linear Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Jun 23, 2015

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Nov 28, 2011

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The_Doctor posted:

Is anyone collecting all Occ's reviews in one place? I wanted to go back and see what he thought of an older ep, but wading through the pages of discussion to find them is challenging.

They're all linked from the first page of the thread.

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Nov 28, 2011

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Crap... I might actually get an audio because that sounds cool.

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Nov 28, 2011

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Didn't River say she went and met all of his prior incarnations anyway? I recall some line where she said she met all of them, but did something to make them forget about it.

(E: Of course, this directly contradicts her telling 10 that his eyes are "the youngest she's ever seen them" but I swear I remember this)

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Nov 28, 2011

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Between this and the River audios Doctor Who is going to have all my money.

At this rate, I'm going to get expatriated to the UK and forced to help pay for the BBC.

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Nov 28, 2011

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Susan, the Master, and the Corsair are really the Rani you say?

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Nov 28, 2011

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She's the Face of Boe.

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Nov 28, 2011

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Re: Toxx watching the new trailer. I was trying to say this in that thread but just ended up being too vague. I think the only real spoiler for this season is that Clara is still a companion, and one of the spoiler exceptions in that thread has always been that Doctor/Companion casting info from future seasons is fair game. I guess also that Missy lives, but that's more a spoiler for next season than this one, considering it ended on her "disintegration". Did I miss something big?

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Nov 28, 2011

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Gaz-L posted:

Missy's survival is also barely a spoiler. Did anyone even buy that she was actually dead?

Not really. Especially since they used the exact same coloration as the "shredders" in Time Heist.

E: They basically left themselves with enough plausible deniability that it could've been a real death if Gomez didn't want to come back.

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Nov 28, 2011

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whatsabattle posted:

Rory is Susan?



And Ben is Glory? :psyduck:

And I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together

Linear Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Jul 10, 2015

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Nov 28, 2011

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Do these go up online? Because I don't have TV.

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Nov 28, 2011

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CobiWann posted:

Is this still our reality? Quick, who’s the Doctor? Who’s the showrunner? Am I on fire?!?

Michael Bay
James Franco
Unfortunately, no.

I'm sorry. I'm so, so sorry.

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Nov 28, 2011

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One Swell Foop posted:

I'm still a little jealous of people who get to watch The Prisoner for the first time.

I've never seen it, is that the one with the big flying ball thing?

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Nov 28, 2011

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PriorMarcus posted:

Yeah... Season Nine spoiler: Its a shame Moffat is revisiting the events of that episode and changing them as the big plot hook for this season.

Wait, do you mean Hide or Genesis?

Linear Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 10:41 on Jul 29, 2015

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Nov 28, 2011

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Only Peter Capaldi can save us and bring back The Chumblies!

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I know the character they're talking about almost certainly isn't, but I really want it to be The Misadventures of Missy.

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But if fear is a constant companion and fear leads to anger and anger leads to hate and hate leads to the dark side are we all screwed?

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Nov 28, 2011

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I just got finished with An Unearthly Child, which is also my first foray into Classic Who. I can't say enough good things about the first part. I'll admit my memory is a bit fuzzy since I watched the first 3 parts and then came back to part 4 about a month later, but the first part was magical. Like, I know plenty about Who, but I still felt a huge sense of mystery in the first episode. The absolutely nailed the tone of this weird kid going to a police box in a junkyard, and the whole mystery surrounding it. The point where Ian and Barbara met The Doctor was filled with tension. Hartnell is also amazing. :allears:

My only real complaint is that the pacing is terrible on the caveman plot. I knew the pacing could sometimes be bad on the old episodes, but this was just far too slow and the cavemen weren't really interesting enough to compensate. Speaking of the cavemen, why did they seem to have American accents? It's possible they all had some really subdued British accent of some sort, but they sounded really American to me.

Next I'll be watching the first episode the Daleks showed up in. My plan is to watch all the "origin" episodes for various major villains and Doctors (first Cyberman episode, regeneration episodes, etc. Yes, even the Twin Dilemma), though I may forget that temporarily and do Genesis of the Daleks after this one since people talk about how good it is and it's being invoked next series. Then I'll probably start filling in highly regarded episodes.

I may watch all the Classic Episodes eventually, but that's my plan for now, I may also start being a nerd and posting reviews, though it's difficult for this one since I had such a big gulf between starting and finishing it.

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Nov 28, 2011

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Hiro Protagonist posted:

I stopped watching the show at series 7, not out of lost interest so much as other things taking preference. Now I'm kind of wondering... What happened? Not, like, in the series, but it seems like the public interest for the series just disappeared midway through series 8. Was this just in the group I was in, or were people just not that impressed with Peter Capaldi, or did it move in a different direction that didn't go over well?

Speaking solely about my own social circle, a lot of people hate both Capaldi and Clara.

E: Midway through Series 8 is also when the really bad episode happened, which was probably the nail in the coffin for most people.

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MrL_JaKiri posted:

10 of 12 is not midway :v:

And viewing figures stayed pretty static

I was referring to the 7th episode, which regardless of personal opinions, is where a lot of my friends stopped watching. :v:

SirSamVimes posted:

Pretty much everyone I know loves Capaldi and while they weren't impressed with Clara pre-Capaldi they've loved her with him.

A lot of my friends really, really hate him and Clara. They haven't given reasons for Clara, but they find Capaldi too "mean", and not whimsical enough (they didn't watch up to Mummy, so understandable I guess). I'll admit the first half of Series 8 could be kinda rocky in terms of 12's writing. It works much better as a single cohesive story than a weekly episode-by-episode show, IMO.

But then, these people also regularly share glurgy poems about 10 and Rose.

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