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I think it was less to protect Bell in particular and more to stop a whole bunch of people from killing each other for absolutely nothing.
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The Divine Power rule is kind of hazy. Freya can use her "innate ability" of Charm to dazzle any living creature, but this isn't considered part of the Divine Power. Similarly, what Hestia did wasn't to use her Divine Power, but rather just unleash her Divine Aura, or whatever you want to call it, which pretty much drops humans to their knees in a god's presence. Both Hermes and Hestia had turned it off when they entered the Dungeon, because they wanted to hide from it. When she enabled it again (to stop the fight), the Dungeon discovered her, and poo poo Happens. The rule against gods entering the Dungeon is more to stop the Dungeon from going berserk than anything else, and doesn't seemingly connect to whatever godly pact makes them beam back to Heaven. Unless they die, anyway, because that automatically triggers Divine Power and they go back up.
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Jun 22, 2015 16:04
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darkgray posted:The Divine Power rule is kind of hazy. What? That's even worse than simply risking being banished back to heaven. Hestia unthinkingly brought disaster down on everyone, for no good reason. As for innate abilities, is Hestia particularly skilled with keeping fires lit or something?
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Jun 22, 2015 17:25
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Serious Frolicking posted:What? That's even worse than simply risking being banished back to heaven. Hestia unthinkingly brought disaster down on everyone, for no good reason. Dunno. I don't think it's been revealed. Hephy is really good at smithing, Soma makes amazing booze, etc, no powers involved.
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Jun 22, 2015 17:44
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darkgray posted:The Divine Power rule is kind of hazy.
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Jun 22, 2015 17:47
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Was I supposed to laugh at the end of the episode? The internet has ruined skeletons for me. Hopefully Bell will fire another Death-Star-Laser at this thing destroying it instantly.
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Jun 22, 2015 17:50
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Serious Frolicking posted:What? That's even worse than simply risking being banished back to heaven. Hestia unthinkingly brought disaster down on everyone, for no good reason. If the dungeon freaking out is Hestia's fault it's absolutely hilarious because she didn't really have to intervene in that way at all.
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Jun 22, 2015 17:54
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Serious Frolicking posted:What? That's even worse than simply risking being banished back to heaven. Hestia unthinkingly brought disaster down on everyone, for no good reason.
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Jun 22, 2015 18:56
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Mythological gods, especially those from the Greek pantheon, are also well known for their reasonable and rational reactions to things.
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Jun 22, 2015 18:58
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While her reaction is understandable, one wonders why she didn't do it when she was kidnapped and put in mortal danger to forestall the entire problem in the first place.
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Jun 22, 2015 19:03
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Kanos posted:While her reaction is understandable, one wonders why she didn't do it when she was kidnapped and put in mortal danger to forestall the entire problem in the first place. She is a god and with that comes the assumption that she should be able to get herself out of the situation before it gets that dire. But this entire plotline is based around how overprotective of Bell she is so it isnt exactly surprising that she would jump to that response, especially after working her way down to level 18 just to find him.
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Jun 22, 2015 19:14
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Serious Frolicking posted:What? That's even worse than simply risking being banished back to heaven. Hestia unthinkingly brought disaster down on everyone, for no good reason. The fact that, knowing the dungeon itself would get mad, she didn't power-up when they kidnapped her for the express purpose of loving Bell up, and but then didn't take 10 seconds to evaluate the situation and determine if Bell was beating the poo poo out of his opponent was kind of....yeah.
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Jun 23, 2015 00:31
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I don't know why it's so weird that Hestia did something stupid and impulsive due to her feelings for Bell, that's basically her character.
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darkgray posted:Dunno. I don't think it's been revealed. Hephy is really good at smithing, Soma makes amazing booze, etc, no powers involved. I think Gods just naturally have extremely awesome Skill stats. Let's put it this way, as an analogy, as written, if you took any of the Gods from the 3.5e Epic Level Handbook (Or the relevant Divine stat book) and took away all of their Spell Like Abilities, Supernatural Abilities, Divine abilities, and Spell lists; they would still have their stats, CR appropriate skill point allotment, and the Divine Rank bonus to those skills; What do you get? Tiamat, a Chaotic Evil God able to simply straight up bluff alignment detection spells to make her come across as Lawful Good. So you easily can have someone like Hephastus who can still craft epic level items without magic/divine assistance because their passives are so drat high.
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Jun 23, 2015 01:47
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They're also immortal so you would think they would have tons of practice in their craft.
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Jun 23, 2015 04:26
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You make good points Kanos, but the heart wants what it wants. And this heart wants Bell to basically be Batman.
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NowonSA posted:You make good points Kanos, but the heart wants what it wants. And this heart wants Bell to basically be Batman. Well, I guess she does recognize that he wants to be a storybook hero.
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Raenir Salazar posted:I think Gods just naturally have extremely awesome Skill stats. Let's put it this way, as an analogy, as written, if you took any of the Gods from the 3.5e Epic Level Handbook (Or the relevant Divine stat book) and took away all of their Spell Like Abilities, Supernatural Abilities, Divine abilities, and Spell lists; they would still have their stats, CR appropriate skill point allotment, and the Divine Rank bonus to those skills; What do you get? Tiamat, a Chaotic Evil God able to simply straight up bluff alignment detection spells to make her come across as Lawful Good. Lol
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Raenir Salazar posted:I think Gods just naturally have extremely awesome Skill stats. Let's put it this way, as an analogy, as written, if you took any of the Gods from the 3.5e Epic Level Handbook (Or the relevant Divine stat book) and took away all of their Spell Like Abilities, Supernatural Abilities, Divine abilities, and Spell lists; they would still have their stats, CR appropriate skill point allotment, and the Divine Rank bonus to those skills; What do you get? Tiamat, a Chaotic Evil God able to simply straight up bluff alignment detection spells to make her come across as Lawful Good. Please continue, we need to go deeper into this.
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Jun 24, 2015 04:45
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dogsicle posted:I don't know why it's so weird that Hestia did something stupid and impulsive due to her feelings for Bell, that's basically her character. You're just saying that because at pretty much any time she could have told Bell that she's DTF, which would solved a very large number of her problems. Particularly if she had done this well before Episode 1 when he found some other girl. Its not like this was ambiguous even in flashbacks to stuff well before Episode 1, she's just a big fucken wuss for no real reason despite being a literal deity.
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Angry Grimace posted:You're just saying that because at pretty much any time she could have told Bell that she's DTF, which would solved a very large number of her problems. Particularly if she had done this well before Episode 1 when he found some other girl. Its not like this was ambiguous even in flashbacks to stuff well before Episode 1, she's just a big fucken wuss for no real reason despite being a literal deity. Bell is obviously an even bigger wuss.
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Angry Grimace posted:You're just saying that because at pretty much any time she could have told Bell that she's DTF, which would solved a very large number of her problems. Particularly if she had done this well before Episode 1 when he found some other girl. Its not like this was ambiguous even in flashbacks to stuff well before Episode 1, she's just a big fucken wuss for no real reason despite being a literal deity. The fans' pure waifu ain't supposed to be that forward, see. She is literally being as assertive in her need for MC schlong as the genre allows her to be.
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Jun 24, 2015 18:51
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I think the answer to all your posts are "the characters are all retards that are entirely incapable of acting in a rational manner".
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ViggyNash posted:I think the answer to all your posts are "the characters are all retards that are entirely incapable of acting in a rational manner". Whats the reason for anime/manga doing this anyways? Does the fanbase enjoy retarded characters or is it the writer that lacks story-writing skills beyond sixth grade? Edit: I'm sorry, DSM-V calls these people as having a "Intellectual Disability" now. The disability of being retarded. Thor-Stryker fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Jun 24, 2015 |
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I think the characters are funny and cute, and the dumb poo poo they do makes me roll my eyes at worst. I also didn't hate the characters in Parasyte, so obviously I have a problem.
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dogsicle posted:I think the characters are funny and cute, and the dumb poo poo they do makes me roll my eyes at worst. I also didn't hate the characters in Parasyte, so obviously I have a problem. Agreed.  Also I love how people demand that all characters act like logical robots, in reality people are pretty damned irrational and do dumb stuff all the time including the people blathering on about how dumb the characters are. 
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Darth Walrus posted:The fans' pure waifu ain't supposed to be that forward, see. She is literally being as assertive in her need for MC schlong as the genre allows her to be. Her tits are hanging out
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Angry Grimace posted:Her tits are hanging out 
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Angry Grimace posted:You're just saying that because at pretty much any time she could have told Bell that she's DTF, which would solved a very large number of her problems. Particularly if she had done this well before Episode 1 when he found some other girl. Its not like this was ambiguous even in flashbacks to stuff well before Episode 1, she's just a big fucken wuss for no real reason despite being a literal deity. You're talking about the same person who didn't trust Bell not to run face first into The Dungeon if she told him about his Gain passive (not that he didn't do that anyway). Her being courageous is well out of the question.
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Angry Grimace posted:Her tits are hanging out This is anime. That has no bearing on anything.
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ConanThe3rd posted:You're talking about the same person who didn't trust Bell not to run face first into The Dungeon if she told him about his Gain passive (not that he didn't do that anyway). Her being courageous is well out of the question. I think she was also worried that if he knew what was causing his super stat growth(his desire to get stronger to catch up with Aiz) then that might ironically weaken or disable the skill altogether because he might stop trying so hard and might start trying to use the skill as a crutch. She's said the power of the skill is directly tied to the strength of his feelings in that regard.
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Kanos posted:I think she was also worried that if he knew what was causing his super stat growth(his desire to get stronger to catch up with Aiz) then that might ironically weaken or disable the skill altogether because he might stop trying so hard and might start trying to use the skill as a crutch. She's said the power of the skill is directly tied to the strength of his feelings in that regard. I think this actually makes *sense* but there has been nothing to suggest Hestia is smart enough to understand any of this. It took her an entire episode to give Bell a loving knife she specially obtained for him to defend himself in a situation where he needed to defend himself.
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I pretty much see Hestia as a smothering maternal figure whose sense is about equivalent to how many cents she has. Like, she bought perfume in a dungeon.
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You're asking a lot from a girl who's literally hundreds of millions of years old and just recently established her first "relationship" with a mortal human (aged 14, none the less). Her sense of timing might be off.
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Thor-Stryker posted:Whats the reason for anime/manga doing this anyways? Does the fanbase enjoy retarded characters or is it the writer that lacks story-writing skills beyond sixth grade? watch good anime
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Jun 24, 2015 23:49
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you shouldn't complain about bad writing as you deliberately watch up to episode 12 in a show called "Is it Wrong to Try to Pick up Girls in a Dungeon?"
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darkgray posted:You're asking a lot from a girl who's literally hundreds of millions of years old and just recently established her first "relationship" with a mortal human (aged 14, none the less). Her sense of timing might be off. lmao
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darkgray posted:You're asking a lot from a girl who's literally hundreds of millions of years old and just recently established her first "relationship" with a mortal human (aged 14, none the less). Her sense of timing might be off. I don't think Gods understand the concept that sleeping with a 14-year old boy might be gross or wrong in the same way they don't in literally every single Pantheon ever.
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Angry Grimace posted:I think this actually makes *sense* but there has been nothing to suggest Hestia is smart enough to understand any of this. It took her an entire episode to give Bell a loving knife she specially obtained for him to defend himself in a situation where he needed to defend himself. At least they sort of justified that in the end - it needed a complex, time-consuming programming session to work properly and actually be useful.
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Hestia needs to get some tips from Zeus and turn into a duck or whatever like he always does.
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