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May 18, 2015 18:27
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I didn't even bother blowing up the supply vehicle, I just had two fencers play ping-pong with him. 
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"Using Valkyrian power is wrong! Unless you're the destined natural Valkyrian and really in trouble, then it's okay and will work out perfectly with no consequences!"
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I don't understand what happened here. I have only played the first game, but wanted to play this one, however somehow never got around to it--but kept hearing everywhere that it is awful. Somehow, after the first game, I just could not believe it. But now I've seen it and I guess they were all correct, so thank you for playing this, so quite literally I don't have to! I think the low point is definitely the game design anecdotes which more often than not seem to focus on the chest size of various female characters. However, the good news is that the third game, at least based on the first couple of missions from the LP, does seem to be noticeably better--so may go and play that one myself actually.
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I wonder if there's gonna be any fallout from the fact that Aliasse straight up killed Avan's brother, knowing who he was, or if they're just gonna sail right past that point.
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King of Bleh posted:I wonder if there's gonna be any fallout from the fact that Aliasse straight up killed Avan's brother, knowing who he was, or if they're just gonna sail right past that point. It had nothing to do with that tournament cup. No-one will care.
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King of Bleh posted:I wonder if there's gonna be any fallout from the fact that Aliasse straight up killed Avan's brother, knowing who he was, or if they're just gonna sail right past that point. You'll be surprised! Glazius posted:I have given up trying to understand the progression of the war or Lanseal's relation to any of it. You will not be surprised....
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  Then Dirk failed even as a shield. That pathetic imitation!Wow, great boss huh. Dirk is possibly the 2nd strongest person in this war and he don't give a gently caress. Engage the intruders! I want that squad dead! Sir! *leaves* Perhaps it will see use before the day is out. Not the grandest of stages for its first unveiling... But no matter. Not exactly a secret, he's been bragging about becoming a true Valkyur powers since like forever. Let's hope his death isn't as dumb as Maximillian's. *Meanwhile*  We're all on board! Things are going well. Now all that's left is--*The ground rocks*  Wh-What was that?*Ship continues to rumble*  The ship... It's moving! drat it, were we too late? If it enters Federation waters, it's all over. Then we won't let that happen! Jarde's probably on his way back with Cordelia and the Navy now. We'll take out Baldren and hold the bridge until they get here.Is Jarde traveling at the speed of light or something? Gallia is a small country, but it ain't that small, and mobilizing a navy fleet probably takes 3 times as long. This game does not remotely have a sense of time passing. We should also take that rail cannon offline.  What kind of lovely navy does Gallia have to not handle a single ship. Okay, got it. That's the plan, guys. Let's go!*Class G yells in agreement*  What's wrong? You look sad. I'm sorry. I... He was your brother, and I... I wanted to use my powers to protect people, but... But all I can ever do is destroy!Now's not exactly the time, Aliasse...actually, can you destroy that giant rail cannon for us? And kill Baldren? No? Oh, okay.   I even got to talk to him. I got to say good-bye. You protected all of us, and defended my brother's humanity. I did? You did. Now come on. Let's put an end to this. Okay! Great, she gets a power boost against enemies when an ally is near...which is useless as a Scout.  So this mission is opening a bunch of doors so we can blow up blue radiators on the ship. Three, to be exact.  Basically every turn, one map will be fired upon outside buildings and instant-kill any unit caught in the crossfire.  The radiators themselves are basically as strong as APC butts, which is to say paper towel-like.  Marion's target was a freebie, but accessing the other two requires opening these doors that Franca is heading towards.  Even after opening the doors, you still have to go pretty far while dodging a million units and avoiding the instant-kill.  But having a bunch of tier 3 units go a long way.  red Squad Two, fall in! Stop the intruders at any cost! Squad Three, circle round behind them! Looks like they don't want to let us inside, Avon. We're totally surrounded. *Explosions hit the ship* red Ngah?! What happened?! Hey, that's--   All riiight! You're the freaking MAN, Jarde! *Happily tweets* I received your message, Avan. You have done Gallia a service. Now, for the sake of its future... Remaining Aliasse art pages      Raise your hand if you're remotely surprised they wanted a big breasted Valkyur that just did what she was told Cordelia art pages   
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Jesus the guys in charge of character design were massive creeplords. It really can't be said enough.
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An SM duo? What? Having a red vs blue theme wasn't good enough?
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So to answer the long-awaited question, the reason why Aliasse has a whip as her weapon style is because she was originally a bondage queen pair, but they ran out of time.
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Tae posted:So to answer the long-awaited question, the reason why Aliasse has a whip as her weapon style is because she was originally a bondage queen pair, but they ran out of time.  WHAT WHY Why would you make a thirteen year old girl part of a S & M pair?
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Mraagvpeine posted:Was she suppose to be 13 in the first place?  I don't remember if I did this, but here's the rest of Juli's art pages. If you don't like breastquisitions, don't read some of these:      
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paragon1 posted:Jesus the guys in charge of character design were massive creeplords. I was going to say they did a good job on Cordelia, though, but then I read the artist notes and apparently the good design came out when the artist was trying to come up with something bad to sell his preferred idea in comparison...
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OddObserver posted:I was going to say they did a good job on Cordelia, though, but then I read the artist notes and apparently the good design came out when the artist was trying to Oh it still gets plenty creepy in the description too; Honjou posted:The innocence you can still see in [Cordelia's] eyes is just gorgeous.
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Tae posted:So to answer the long-awaited question, the reason why Aliasse has a whip as her weapon style is because she was originally a bondage queen pair, but they ran out of time. Ahahahahahahahaha. I tried avoiding commenting on the character designs because it doesn't contribute much but. Ahaha. On a different note Juliana's Valkyria design is bad in a different way from the rest of the game. It just looked like she was covered in a massive puffy jacket in the cutscene.
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Interview with the producers of VC2:         Some choice quotes: quote:When I first read the part at the script that mentions Avon shooting himself for Cosette's event , I was like, "Are you serious? What part of his body does he shoot?" I received the short answer, "stomach". Needless to say, I was speechless. A person could die from doing something like that! I put my concerns on the table, saying, ''Isn't this a bit forced? Is it really necessary?" But the entire staff banded together, insisting, "He totally has to! That's the kind at guy Avan is!" (laughs) What could I say to that? Besides, I told myself, Avan's so dumb that he probably couldn't cause a mortal wound it he tried. quote:Even alter a lot of tweaking, some of the classes simply weren't keeping up with the others. One such example is the Engineer. They were initially pretty useless, so I had to convince everybody that no player in their right mind would bother with this class unless we made it more useful. So we made the Engineer's pistol more powerful and extended Ragnaid's range... but they're still not particularly essential once you get relatively good at the game. quote:The Scouts were iust way too overpowered in "VC1". Since most of the missions in "VC1" involved capturing enemy base camps, the Scouts‘ usefulness was overwhelming, and they had quite a bit of firepower to boot. In fact, many players have mentioned clearing entire missions using only "The Almighty Alicia"! (laughs)
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quote:Despite the fact that you guys clearly put a lot of care and detail into creating the game, you certainly don't hit the player over the head with how awesome you are during the course of gameplay. The in-game events proceed at a good pace, without wasting any time drawing the player's attention to all of the little things, which makes the game very enjoyable. Do we have the same game? 
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Permadeath would be "a bit too depressing". In the game with implied daily warcrimes against Darcsens, not to mention full-blown racial purges of entire towns. Anyone know where I can find that gif of the psyduck exploding into tentacles with psyduck faces all along them?  Thank you to the goon who PM'ed me with it Neddy Seagoon fucked around with this message at 04:18 on May 19, 2015 |
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"not to sound like a total creep" "not to sound like a total creep" ahahahahaha
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Mr.Morgenstern posted:
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Dragonatrix posted:Welcome to I'm gonna twist the knife on this one; Look at Aliasse's outfit in the original design beside the unused twin. Someone got that and actively decided "nope, remove everything below the waist except the belt and shoes".
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Tae posted:
Well at least one guy knew it was stupid for Avan to shoot himself. And someone knew the engineer is useless, but couldn't balance it (  )And hey look they acknowledged scouts were overpowered in the last game. Which they were, seriously Alica and the DLC rifle was just a one man army.
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"No he'd totally shoot himself, because that's just the kind of guy Avan is!" What, suicidal and retarded? And eurgh... you really did save the worst for last on those art pages, didn't you?
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So what I get from this, without actually reading the whole thing or checking who said what, is that there was one guy on the staff who knew how stupid everything was, but kept getting outvoted when he told them.
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Apparently so. Though you can kinda see how the whole " TARGET DEMOGRAPHICS" caused them to turn the game into the mess it is. And whoever decided that Monster Hunter-style missions were a great idea should be shot. Monster Hunter-style missions were the worst parts of Monster Hunter. They are especially bad in something like Crisis Core (HOPE YOU LIKE 400 MISSIONS IN ~15 AREAS!) and in this.
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Finding out that Cordelia's design was unintended is kind-of sad (and some of the designer comments make it worse): it's a character design that I feel is actually good.Tae posted:Interview with the producers of VC2: 
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Sorry for having just summaries, but I said before I'm not doing any post-game stuff. This is the only new story elements to it, otherwise it's just more and harder missions. Lavinia Quest summary    Lavinia was a member of Leon's squad before Avan entered the academy, and they were the only survivors of a Valkyrian-enhanced tank called the Ghost Tank. They find it, destroy it, and Lavinia cries in relief that she avenged her comrades. Also heavily hinted that Lavinia loved Leon romantically. Her Wounded Heart Potential is replaced by Tank Mastery, which increases her accuracy.    quote:One of the costume ideas we had for Lavinia was a tank top, and some of the staff members were very disappointed when we decided not to go with it. (laughs) But since Leon was the one for her, we wanted to avoid any situations where Avan might see her as anything but a big sister, so we put her in a coverall. Jugin Quest summary     So Jugin is supposed to be a new game+ guy, basically sleeping in the entire 1st run of the game. He's a former comrade of Leon, considered the 2nd best Lancer in all of Lanseal. But he shut himself in his room once Leon became Dirk and blamed himself. Avan told him "Nah bro, ain't yo fault" and everything's fine again. If you really, really like VC2's post-game, he's a good Lancer to have since he has double-attack after his classmate mission is completed.  
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Ha ha ha they knew scouts were overpowered and engineers were useless but they didn't do anything about it
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Except making a passive-aggressive 'no engineers are totally useful you jerks!' story-arc.
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Oh hey, character development relevant to Leon. Not like that would've helped to flesh out what is essentially nothing between the prologue and the big reveal or anything.Monkey Fracas posted:Ha ha ha they knew scouts were overpowered and engineers were useless but they didn't do anything about it You've seen how good they are with character design. What made you think they'd be any better with gameplay?
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Mehuyael posted:Except making a passive-aggressive 'no engineers are totally useful you jerks!' story-arc. At least two of the Engineer classmates involved "Hey, maybe you should switch to a different class" in Vicky and Raymond. None of the other classes had a "Maybe you should change class", let alone switch to Engineer.
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Tae posted:At least two of the Engineer classmates involved "Hey, maybe you should switch to a different class" in Vicky and Raymond. None of the other classes had a "Maybe you should change class", let alone switch to Engineer. Yes, but in both those story arcs they find that being engineers is just the perfectest thing ever. I can't believe you're actually using Vicky's dumb quest as evidence against what I said, considering up until she learns the virtue of being an engineer she's pretty much the epitome of Dumb And So Goddamn Crazy.
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Man, there's just no way we can fix these obvious gameplay balance issues! What are we gonna do? gentlemen...I have an idea involving belts and whips
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Mehuyael posted:Yes, but in both those story arcs they find that being engineers is just the perfectest thing ever. I can't believe you're actually using Vicky's dumb quest as evidence against what I said, considering up until she learns the virtue of being an engineer she's pretty much the epitome of Dumb And So Goddamn Crazy. No, I mean the only time classes even come up are whenever Engineers are involved. None of the Scouts/Lancers/Shocktroopers/Armor Techs at any point talk about the class aptitude thing at the beginning of the game. They're the only ones that make a point that their class is flawed at all.
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Tae posted:No, I mean the only time classes even come up are whenever Engineers are involved. None of the Scouts/Lancers/Shocktroopers/Armor Techs at any point talk about the class aptitude thing at the beginning of the game. They're the only ones that make a point that their class is flawed at all. I don't agree. Raymond doesn't say anything about engineers being flawed, they're saying that Raymond isn't fit to be an engineer. And Vicky as I said is just being the dumbest person ever as a passive-aggressive way to show engineer-critics as dumb crazies who don't care about the soldiers' health and just want to kill kill kill.
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