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kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

Kegluneq posted:

Yeah, you can feel the love in this thread for instance. As for Katie Hopkins... And in the link I posted before, it was Mumsnet users who shot the support for the online blocks down. You have a really weird grudge.

Yeah, the couple of times I've browsed Mumsnet threads, the general trend has been towards decent advice.
It's probably a sample size thing - the more users they get, the more likely it is there'll be a normal distribution of views (at least if you assume the loons are the +/- 2 sd types).

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kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

tentish klown posted:

According to http://www.buzzfeed.com/rossalynwarren/hiv-survivors-farage I can take 3000 as a conservative figure for the number of foreign nationals being diagnosed for hiv here, and of the course of treatment costs £25,000 a year as Farage claims, that's £75 million. It's not insignificant!

And how much would the bureaucracy cost to ensure only deserving people get treatment?
Not to mention the related costs of not giving people the right sort of support - i.e. secondary infections, long-term health risks.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
On the 'health tourism' issue, there's a blurry line between what the NHS offers for free and what it charges for.
I doubt medics enjoy the prospect of talking to patients or families and discussing at what point the meter starts running.

Personally, I'd rather the clinicians involve just do their best and not worry about the details. Bill the nation, rather than the patient. Have it be a sort of incentive to get their own socialised medicine up and running.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
I hadn't realised that the school-entry assessments were being introduced from September (for 4-5 year olds).
Because apparently teachers don't have enough to do, and young children don't have enough stress in their lives already.

That article about the school-entry assessments is interesting in that it clearly shows that the 3 main parties are all in favour of having the tests, while none of the education experts are.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

OwlFancier posted:

I would agree, you can't practically have a country where people are ruled electively on a person by person basis, which is my main argument against the dissolution of the union, separating the UK truly on political lines would not be practical.

Which is why having Mayors is a good idea in theory.
The problem, as always, is the candidates and the voters. The candidates for being terrible and the voters for voting for them

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

Coohoolin posted:

Aw, did the nasty Jocks hurt your feelings?

I'm pretty sure that's the attitude Taear is talking about.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
I saw this letter in the Evening Standard yesterday and after much debate, my brain settled on :stonklol: as a reaction:

Kelvin Trott, Alexander Charles Financial Recruitment posted:

Tax shelters were created in Malta, Luxembourg and Monaco for economic reasons and to spur their economies. It's well known that large corporates also use Ireland for tax avoidance purposes.
Rather than pursue such firms for tax, why not alter the UK tax rate to mirror what is already enjoyed in these jurisdictions? The inflow of capital would run into billions of pounds and the extra jobs created would probably number tens of thousands.
By making Britain a tax-efficient country we would become the true centre for trade and investment in Europe. Higher taxes will simply promote avoidance and further reduce our competitiveness in the world.

Personally, I'm astonished there's enough purple Kool-Aid in the world to make someone believe all of that.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
I was talking about the exams thing with a colleague the other day.
She has kids and was unaware that loads of schools assess Year 7s so that they can 'stream' them appropriately.

Her point was something along the lines of "So wait, they do a whole bunch of SATs at the end of Year 6 and then they get assessed again 4 months later? A) What's the point of that; and B) Is no-one worried that we're stressing kids out?"

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

TinTower posted:

Because the ticket constitutes a contract between you and the ToC, you have the right to claim either a taxi or a hotel stay if you're delayed past the final train through circumstances under the control of either Network Rail or the ToCs. Sometimes, the ToCs will also extend that right even if they don't have to; if your train has been diverted because someone stole the copper wiring for the signals, for example.

I was on a delayed train that arrived at Euston after all other trains had left, so they put on taxis for passengers with onward journeys.
I've also been on a service that terminated early due to delays, but since there were still other trains running, they just made everyone wait for the next service. Refunds were possible, though.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
Has anyone found a decent, concise write-up on the Tories' Right To Buy Too?
I feel like this is something I should be :effort: posting on Facebook, for those of my friends too stupid to recognise atrocious policy.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
Treat everyone for free and if they don't have a UK passport, send the bill to their respective government.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

Acaila posted:

I loved in the referendum how politics seemed to be so much closer to the people and especially how folk I knew or folk I felt were like me were in the spotlight. Westminster politics so rarely feels like that. MPs don't seem to inhabit the same world as I do very often. Mhairi seems like a briliant antidote to that.

Looking at the stats, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland have the lowest 'electorate per constituency' rates in the Union.
Of those, Paisley & Renfrewshire South has 17.4% fewer constituents than the UK average.
Great though she may be, it's not hard to feel "closer to the people and especially folk I knew or folk I felt were like me" when there are @~12,000 fewer people in the constituency she's running in.
Particularly given that the constituency has higher-than-average majority ethnic status (albeit that applies to most places outside London).

Even as someone who's keen for the SNP to get traction, I don't think someone who strongly resembles a candidate in the right place at the right time is an antidote to anything other than post-referendum blues.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
Prescott also gave a family of Indian tourists a tour of Downing Street while he was deputising as Prime Minister.

[edit]
Apparently, he did it a few times.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
Huh, I had that Vice food bank video open in a tab overnight and just went to look at it and some of the comments are... truly enlightened.

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Wow... Now ive used food banks before, very userful! But these people look like they're been to hell and back? And nothing wrong with being on benefits, but not benefits all your life and complain you're in poverty. This is isnt a 3rd world country, move your rear end and get a job!

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Plainly mass immigration friends. Why are so many people deluded on this logic? You allow roughly 300,000 unskilled immigrants a year to enter Britain including the costs; free health, free education and free benefits. You could easily reduce that number to only skilled/beneficial immigrants (like most other countries such as America with green cards) then just maybe current British Citizens wouldn't be so loving desperate for food banks in a first world country and 5th largest economy. It's also completely disgraceful that Britain gives away billions in foreign aid to countries like India, which have a space program (whilst we don't) and at the same time we carry on middle fingering our most vulnerable people on our own streets. Does that make any logical sense to you? Many people fought and died in wars for a prospering yet integrated British society. We can no longer achieve that whilst we are shackled to a doomed undemocratic EUSSR collective bank corporation within a Euro Zone crisis. There is only one clear and sensible choice on May 7th. Vote Farage, Get UKIP.

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Well, when you mass import immigrants and export jobs abroad, your native population gets screwed (often literally thanks to all of the rape gangs that the government has been trying to cover up) since they have a much harder time finding jobs. Support for wealth redistribution policies also declines when societies become more diverse. Then on top of that you have the media promoting degenerate behavior - like promiscuity, drug use, alcohol, et cetera.

Obviously, there are some good comments as well, but where's the fun in showing those?

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

DesperateDan posted:

I hate the entire concept of "kids these days" but I can't help but wonder what some parents are doing, it's pretty loving depressing to see.

The only one of my schools in which I regularly hang out in Nursery is alright. Although there are a few kids not yet fully toilet-trained.
And a few who arrive in a pushchair.
Not much swearing that I've heard - probably because most of the children don't have enough language to put together a well-formed sentence yet.
I did get at least half a dozen of them waving maniacally at me when I sat down at their table at lunch today, though.
So that's something.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

Brown Moses posted:

It's like one of the internet weirdos Something Awful usually mocks somehow managed to get to be Conservative party chairman.

Grant Shapps is Dan Lirette? :lost:

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
tbh, if the private sector can afford to pay new grads £40k+, we clearly need to bump corporate tax rates up a lot.
And give the public sector some more money.

I don't feel hard-done by with my salary given that so many people in the country have to rely on benefits, food banks and others' generosity to even approach making ends meet; but it does sort of rankle that dead-end, low-end jobs across London attract a higher salary than pretty much any entry-level public sector job where the perks of the job - decent holidays, a sense of worth - are drowned out by the ongoing dread that a single mistake in decision-making will see your name+EVIL/LAZY/INCOMPETENT/FECKLESS adorning a range of newspaper front pages, along with whatever drunk photo they've been able to pull from social media.

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kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
On the other hand, a Labour-led minority government (in coalition or otherwise) would probably get Lib Dem support for some of their proposals, as the Lib Dems would presumably have more freedom to vote.
I mean, I know Clegg's band of idiots have been nothing short of a joke recently, but a decent number of them lean further left than Labour typically do.

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