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BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

IceAgeComing posted:

Don't worry, your opulant work environment and my love of stuffed crusts all balance out in the end

we'll be shot together

With one bullet, can't waste any now.

# ¿ Apr 2, 2015 23:50

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# ¿ May 21, 2024 15:20

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

hookerbot 5000 posted:

When you say new houses aren't sold is that because they're not being built or is it because people prefer buying old houses?

I know that when I get to the point of buying a house it will not be a new build because they are flimsy and the last two I lived in were falling apart within 5 years of being finished. One of them needed BT out to fix the phone line every time it rained and the had an interior wall warp making it not possible to close a door. Older houses will have brick interior walls rather than plasterboard which is a big plus to me.

# ¿ Apr 8, 2015 10:54

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

So apparently there is a huge oil field under West Sussex. It is always in the last place you look.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-32229203

# ¿ Apr 9, 2015 14:27

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

Oberleutnant posted:

i look forward with anticipation to our impending transformation into a scandinavian socialist oil-funded utopia

I am sure you meant to say something about how the money will be pissed up the wall by whomever is in power.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2015 14:33

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

Oberleutnant posted:

I've heard similar stuff in the Gulf states, and there was one well reported case of domestic slavery in Hong Kong recently, wasn't there?

Places like Qatar and Dubai are built on deaths of mainly immigrant workers in modern day slave states.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2015 15:04

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

Squirting Oil Taxes all over your Face

# ¿ Apr 9, 2015 16:49

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

Five more years of Dave you know it makes sense.

# ¿ Apr 10, 2015 15:09

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

Cerv posted:

Knock down Westminster palace and build some housing estates.
The building needs like �3b in repairs to keep it going, so it's time to say goodbye.

That fact just means that it has not been maintained properly for decades. It is a victorian building and thus should be bomb proof. I guess it is all the hot air that is spouted inside it that did the damage.

# ¿ Apr 10, 2015 15:36

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

Put them all in a Vanguard class sub after it is EoL'd and sink it at sea.

# ¿ Apr 10, 2015 15:57

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

Pesky Splinter posted:

Still better than this classic

Oh hey someone updated it

# ¿ Apr 10, 2015 17:24

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

If you hurt someone by rugby tackling them you are doing it wrong.

# ¿ Apr 13, 2015 15:56

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

So the real headline is "Media in cannot be trusted to tell the whole story shocker!"

# ¿ Apr 13, 2015 17:45

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

VAT is a flat tax so not sure how it could be described as regressive, unless you are talking about how it impacts the poor more than the rich then yes it is socially regressive.

# ¿ Apr 13, 2015 18:42

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

big scary monsters posted:

What definition of regressive do you usually use?

OwlFancier posted:

Possibly as a counterpoint to a progressive tax, which would presumably be a tax with inverse proportional scaling.

Exactly this. VAT is not a regressive tax as it does not change as the amount taxed goes up or down. However it is socially regressive as it impacts the poor more than the rich.

# ¿ Apr 13, 2015 19:06

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

Prince John posted:

If memory serves, I think this is forbidden under EU law. So, we're stuck with the horrible mess.

Because if you abolish VAT/sales taxes then guess where everyone is going to want to spend their money? Of course the EU could just have all member abolish them but then that would mean the EU would have done something that helps which is against it's principals of being a feeding trough for washed up politicians.

# ¿ Apr 13, 2015 19:28

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

JFairfax posted:

Is it really that horrible? The majority of states have a sales tax of one degree or another. It's the exception to not have one, and just because things cost those with less money a higher proportion of their income than those with more, does it really represent a big problem?

A VAT rate of 0% isn't going to lift the poorest out of poverty is it?

No as the money would have to come from somewhere else which will just as likely have the same impact on the poor.

# ¿ Apr 13, 2015 19:41

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

Phoon posted:

Its just dumb. Sales taxes are dumb. Just make that money through income tax.

They are more dumb when they are not universal across the country. I can go 25 miles north and save 6.75% on everything I buy going to New Hampshire, which I do for big purchases. Technically I should declare it when I do my tax return but it is like one of nod and wink things that no one does.

# ¿ Apr 13, 2015 19:53

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

Mister Adequate posted:

My fiancée lives in Montana, which has no sales tax at all.

The same as New Hampshire then as it has 0% and Mass has 6.75%.

# ¿ Apr 13, 2015 20:47

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

I am on board with the Tories are bad but if I could buy my mother council house she has lived in since I was 2 years old for 70% off it would be hard to turn down. Still not voting Tory with my oversees vote, not that it matters as I am registered in Elmbridge which is about as Tory as you can get.

# ¿ Apr 14, 2015 12:41

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

Jack the Lad posted:

35-50% of properties bought under Right to Buy end up in the hands of private landlords.

The councils can't afford to replace them, so they end up having to put people in private, rented accommodation to meet their obligations.

So a council builds a home, sells it for significantly less than it's worth, and then has to pay an exorbitant rent to use it.

They might end up, for instance, paying �2000 per month in rent instead of receiving �500 per month.

Social housing should be expended (and yes I know this is hypocrisy considering I just said I would buy a council house if it was offered at such a low price) but also the quality of new build houses needs to go up dramatically. The long waiting lists and people living in B&Bs is nuts. Of course this all falls under the common sense approach of save during a boom, spend during bust where since 2008 the money that should have been saved from the decade of growth was pissed up the fall and then some by New Labour when it could have been used to build new housing, roads, bridges, railways etc...

# ¿ Apr 14, 2015 13:36

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

Last time I checked my car insurance policy would not hire a hitman to go and kill the guy who wrote my car off.

# ¿ Apr 14, 2015 15:06

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

Loving Africa Chaps posted:

There's a lot though on banning animal studies and withdrawing all funding for science that uses animal work.

So are their members going to volunteer to be the new test subjects for experimental cosmetics and pharmaceuticals?

# ¿ Apr 14, 2015 15:46

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

We had a PR referendum and it was voted down, mainly because it was not explained to people what it meant and Labour/The Tories didn't want it since it means they would lose their grip a little.

# ¿ Apr 14, 2015 16:01

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

My mistake, I remember a referendum about the voting process and assumed it was PR. Sort of proves my point that is wasn't really clear. I voted for it as I remember reading about it and believed a change was needed.

# ¿ Apr 14, 2015 16:11

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

Pork Pie Hat posted:

You voted for something even though you didn't understand what it was you were voting for?

Let me be clear. At the time, 4 years ago, I looked at the details of what the change was and decided that in my opinion that it was a better solution to FPTP as I believed that broader representation is better than a near 2 party system. I had forgotten today that it was AV and not PR. I didn't just go "Woo change YOLO put me down for that" because that would be irresponsible.

# ¿ Apr 14, 2015 16:35

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

A number of years ago wasn't the head of government drug advisement pro decriminalisation and weed was decriminalised for a short time before he was shuffled off and it put back at class C?

# ¿ Apr 14, 2015 19:04

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

OwlFancier posted:

Trident is the nation's metaphorical insurance policy, not an actual insurance policy, you won't fix the deficit by burning down the country for the insurance money.

At this point I wonder if we could burn those PFI funded projects down to collect the insurance money and get out of the contract :v:

# ¿ Apr 14, 2015 20:09

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

Healthcare spending in the US is such a large amount for a couple of reasons. Because it is entirely private and covered by Health Insurance the health care providers bill for huge amounts. One personal example will be $3000 for an ultrasound. The health insurance company then has an agreed rate for that service with that provider which was something like $300. Now my health insurance was setup in such a way that it was covered and I paid nothing out of pocket apart from the deduction monthly from my pay for the insurance. However if I had no insurance then I have no one to argue the price down so I get a bill for $3000 for a service others are charged $300 for. If my insurance was different I could end up paying a "co-pay" which basically means I have a set amount to pay per service which could be another from $5 to $250 depending on the service.

Of course with Obamacare everyone is supposed to have health insurance now (or you get fined) so everyone should get that lower rate right? Well no because the cheaper policies provided to those who didn't have insurance might be from other providers that were only able to say get a $1000 rate for that service. So now If you have no insurance, which shouldn't be the case but still is for some, you pay $3000 out of your pocket, if you have crappy insurance you are paying $1000 and if you are like me and have a decentish policy you are billed $300. For exactly the same service, exactly the same staff, in exactly the same place at exactly the same time.

And the most amazing thing about all this? The amount I pay monthly for my health insurance is more or less the same as my NI contributions were when I was still working in the UK and not 100% of NI goes towards the NHS and I still had to pay money on top of my health insurance for somethings. This is just the money part as well. I could go on about how non medical staff have the power to widthdraw treatment from policy holders against medical professional advice (this happens a lot with my other half who is a substance abuse councilor and has vunerable women taken out of treatment because the insurance company don't want to pay any more) and how buying anything without a prescription, even things like saline and dressings cost a huge amounts. Again a personal example where 500ml of saline cost around $10 and a box of 10 3x3 dressings were in the region of $15.

It is a broken system but people here know no other way and are fed the usual American BS about how it is the best system in the world and universal health care have death panels and the commies want to implant mind control chips in your spines.

# ¿ Apr 15, 2015 14:32

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

On the topic of people planning silly buggers with planning laws

# ¿ Apr 15, 2015 18:08

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

I am guessing that is on top of the requirement to show you have enough money to support yourself if you don't have a job for X amount of time? I could make a flippant comment about how they should just come in and claim asylum as that seems to work for others without the need to pay anything but you know, flippant.

# ¿ Apr 16, 2015 15:03

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

In 2010 some joker was putting something like this up around Oxford and I expect is doing so again this time, those students never learn.

I shouldn't need to say but will anyway the site is :nms:

# ¿ Apr 16, 2015 17:46

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

It would be more believable if they had said the he was the leader of a Illuminati/Lizard Man cult who were killing babies and imprisoning their souls to fuel a hate engine that would rise from the black heart of Kusk to consume mankind in the first act of a terrible tragedy that sees all creation reduced to cold inert dust.

# ¿ Apr 20, 2015 13:21

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

Cerv posted:

malicious communication

although this guy was in the local paper recently putting his case that the maximum penalty (6 months + fine) is too low for cases like his at high end of the scale

here: http://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/crime-court/innocent_ricky_dearman_accused_hampstead_satanic_child_abuse_1_4009588

Would there not also be a wasting police time charge or is that the same thing? The punishment seems to be the same (6 months + fine).

# ¿ Apr 20, 2015 13:27

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

So being a relative youngun and not being alive during the Winter of Discontent I still see a bit of a pattern with general economic fuckups when it comes to Labour. Not saying the Tories are amazing but at least are not completely useless at it oh wait http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Wednesday

# ¿ Apr 20, 2015 14:41

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

Gonzo McFee posted:

Half of Min wage, I think.

And Apprenticeships are good if there's a role for them to go into. Apprenticeships for Subway or the like are bullshit.

How else will they become sandwich artists?

# ¿ Apr 21, 2015 17:50

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

In a hiring position at a mid sized software company I would love to get talented 16-18 year olds who I could teach to write good software using good habits and not the 21-22 year old grads who have a bunch of academic crap shoved in their heads I need to make them forget before I can teach them how we write software outside of a lab with someone who has never delivered a usable product. Of course my bosses want the degree before they let anyone in through the door. Even if I could there would be very few takers because everyone has it driven into them that they have to get a degree or forever will they flip burgers or collect rubbish which sadly is not far from the truth because again since a large percentage of the population now have a degree of some kind it raises the bar for entry to non poo poo careers.

# ¿ Apr 21, 2015 19:55

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

Hijo Del Helmsley posted:

Because from an employer's perspective, why bother with someone who hasn't been to uni, when there's a massive pool of those who have?

This is the very argument I have. I want to get a few kids out of their A-levels because if they survived A level Maths/Physics/Computing or even a BTEC or whatever it is called now they will be just as useful to me as someone with a degree in computer science because I don't need them to now how to write stuff in any number of languages that never see the light of day outside of a Uni lab such as Haskell or Oberon but if they have a bit of C knowledge I can get them on to C#.net fairly quickly and teach them end to end development processes to produce good code. Uni grads come along and know many things, MANY things. They are unfortunately mostly worthless things.

# ¿ Apr 21, 2015 20:52

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

Malcolm XML posted:

programming is something that's probably best done as an apprenticeship but good software engineering/computer science does need a lot of theory.

i'm curious what your starting salaries are

Got a couple of guys in last year to work on some process systems using Linux, Perl along with integration with Atlassian products (Jira, Stash, Bamboo) and they started on 27500 quid. Neither of them had worked with anything accept Java and Windows for their degree courses and had no clue about TDD or Agile so it was starting pretty much from scratch. If universities even spent just one term on things like Waterfall/Agile/Scrum and mixed up the environments and languages used that would be a good step forward. Anyway they got sent on some starter UNix dev courses in the first few months and then we chucked a fresh dev server and told to get going under the watch of a senior dev and they did a good job of it and it is rolling out now to about 15 dev teams and helped take a lot of stress and time out of monthly releases.

Theory wise I am not sure there is more theory that can be taught in a college course as at least in my experience by the time you hit your degree course they expected you to at least have a grasp of programming and at least a basic understanding of how a computer works which is enough to be taught and through experience learn development/admin skills that will be useful for a career and not saddle you with student loans. However if you want to go and do research in an area then sure you need a degree and to get those academic contacts to get you on your way,

# ¿ Apr 22, 2015 12:51

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

Disinterested posted:

In America people will assume you are naturally intelligent and possibly know the Queen, it's K.

This is not far from the truth I have discovered.

# ¿ Apr 22, 2015 13:44

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# ¿ May 21, 2024 15:20

BigPaddy: Jun 30, 2008; That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.

Disinterested posted:

The SAS botes sink on the way to Libya?

Proof that the universe has a sense of Irony.

# ¿ Apr 22, 2015 14:42

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