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Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Yeah that's a real nice style. What did you use to get the grain?

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FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


Thank you! I just did add noise on each layer, on a very large canvas.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

Sociopastry posted:

Doin' more cute poo poo for funsies.




This is well drawn but I find it more creepy than cute.

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


Internet Kraken posted:

This is well drawn but I find it more creepy than cute.

Thank you! I think it's cute, but I'd like to know why it reads as creepy to you, if you don't mind me asking. Is it the eyes?

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
Horse legs are weird on a biped creature. The neck looks very long and thin compared to the rest of the body. Combined with the large skull and eyes it is very alien anatomy. Also to me the subdued smile combined with slightly closed eyes can be interpreted as being sinister in some ways.

It makes me think of one of those horror movie dolls that comes to life and stabs the crap out of you.

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


Okay that's radical. She was based off of a china doll I used to have as a kid, actually.

spinderella
Jul 15, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
I dont get creepy though, so? May be a personal taste kinda issue.

Nude
Nov 16, 2014

I have no idea what I'm doing.
I can see it, if it helps it reminds me of Margaret Keane (Tim Burton Big Eyes). It's only a tiny bit creepy for me :v:. By all means I personally don't think it's a bad thing, and I think this one is the best of the bunch that you posted imo.

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


Oh no worries, friends! Art is subjective, and I like hearing everyone's opinions on things. Thank y'all so much for the compliments, though, I have been trying really hard to get better.

asynchrony
Apr 26, 2012

blowing bubbles

Sociopastry posted:

Thank you! I think it's cute, but I'd like to know why it reads as creepy to you, if you don't mind me asking. Is it the eyes?

To me the black background immediately made me think of creepy instead of cute.
The doll itself is pretty cute, and very well drawn!
I think I'd have an harder time seeing the creepiness if the background was brighter/colourful. But I'm not an artist so I don't know if that makes sense to someone focusing on drawing the character itself.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
gonk

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


That's an extremely good oni.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Thanks, my general idea was to make an actual race of regular beings that were based on the physical features of like an oni/imp/generic demony thing

Mukip
Jan 27, 2011

by Reene


birb drawing. For me this is pretty good line work with a tablet.

(From this photo https://imgur.com/WsjOZS3)

Mukip fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Feb 21, 2018

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


mmmmmmmm that's good wing anatomy

sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

Quick cave troll in zbrush.

felat
Apr 27, 2008

I've become way to reliant on photobashing to do anything... this is taking me forever.

Frown Town
Sep 10, 2009

does not even lift
SWAG SWAG SWAG YOLO

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


felat posted:

I've become way to reliant on photobashing to do anything... this is taking me forever.



is that what this style of shading is called? I love it.


I LOVE THIS???? THE FACIAL EXPRESSION IS SO GOOD

Frown Town
Sep 10, 2009

does not even lift
SWAG SWAG SWAG YOLO

Sociopastry posted:

is that what this style of shading is called? I love it.


I LOVE THIS???? THE FACIAL EXPRESSION IS SO GOOD

Thanks. I was feeling bad about gun stuff, and good about Black Panther.

felat
Apr 27, 2008

Sociopastry posted:

is that what this style of shading is called? I love it.

Ah no sorry, photobashing is when you take a bunch of photos and mix em up to create a base for an illustration. This is what I do at work since it's a quick way to get results. For this one, I'm not using photos at all, and painting everything from scratch.

felat
Apr 27, 2008

Sociopastry posted:

is that what this style of shading is called? I love it.

Ah no sorry, photobashing is when you take a bunch of photos and mix em up to create a base for an illustration. This is what I do at work since it's a quick way to get results. For this one, I'm not using photos at all, and painting everything from scratch.

edit with the finished piece!

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
Does that means you don't even use photos as reference images or something else?

Neon Noodle
Nov 11, 2016

there's nothing wrong here in montana
Nice render!!

felat
Apr 27, 2008

Internet Kraken posted:

Does that means you don't even use photos as reference images or something else?

Photo bashing is this basically: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqv0HcEJKl8 Putting a bunch of pics together so you have a lot of information quickly. It also helps with getting proportions and perspective right (it can also backfire if you're not careful). You then paint over the photos until you get a nice finished piece.

For my last illustration, i only went with a sketch, and then render. I had photos for reference, but I didn't paint over them if that makes sense.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
I get what you're saying. I sometimes do a (very crude) form of that for my initial sketch. I've been trying to make an effort to only use pics as references but trying to get the right proportions on some stuff is infuriating without a base for it.

Proper anatomy continues to elude me.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
I'm not good at working carefully from reference without accidentally making it look like a really stiff copy so I have made it a priority to try to get better at some basic anatomy stuff so I only need to look up how specific muscles wrap around limbs in specific poses/etc. I have been surprised how hard it is to make the muscles that make up the armpit mesh together well, especially on more muscular people

Duck Party
Feb 26, 2013

There ain't no Party like a Duck Party
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_86PaNHDBg&t=2s

I made a tutorial about drawing a fox.

Kruxy
May 19, 2004

Just a steel town girl on
a Saturday night, looking
for the fight of her life

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

I'm trying to get into digital art.

I used to love drawing when I was a kid but my style didn't really advance at all and at around 10 I dropped it all together. I always had a passion for drawing mixed with shame over how lovely my drawing was.

Now 20+ years later I want to learn. I managed to get my hands on a Wacom tablet through a friend. I got photoshop. Went through a bunch of tutorials to get some understanding of the program. Then came the time to draw something and I just really suck at it so bad. I can't even make a circle or a straight line.

If I imagine a shape in my head it comes out like 70% of what I imagined. Where do I even start here?

I mean it's not even stick figures. It's less than stick figures. It's crooked stick figures. I'm thinking maybe it's partially the complete unfamiliarity with the tablet and pens/drawing in general

I started downloading Simpson characters and put them on a background layer at 50% opacity and then just practised filling in the lines

I took this character and just tried filling in the lines and colour it.



And the result was.



Like the lines don't even go where I want them when all I'm doing is following the background lines.

I have no problem hell sperging something for a hundred hours when it comes to practise from the ground but where do I start?

Katt fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Mar 17, 2018

Nude
Nov 16, 2014

I have no idea what I'm doing.
I wouldn't worry. First of all getting use to your tool can be a battle in of itself. I see a lot of people who use photoshop "control/apple z" their lines to get the right "feel". The thing that helped me the most is finding out there are many different ways to draw, many different techniques to achieve the same goal. Tracing is one technique but not the only. Half the battle of drawing is understanding how your mind works. For me https://drawabox.com/ was helpful. One suggestion on that site is to just draw circles, and lines, over and over to get use to the feel. But that doesn't mean you should feel bad if that site isn't helpful for you. It just means you have to move on to another tutorial/YouTube channel and figure out what helps for you. Posting your artwork, and asking for advice is also a great first step by the way :unsmith:. I liked that you decided to make Homer barefoot.

Nude fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Mar 17, 2018

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Nude posted:

I wouldn't worry. First of all getting use to your tool can be a battle in of itself. I see a lot of people who use photoshop "control/apple z" their lines to get the right "feel". The thing that helped me the most is finding out there are many different ways to draw, many different techniques to achieve the same goal. Tracing is one technique but not the only. Half the battle of drawing is understanding how your mind works. For me https://drawabox.com/ was helpful. One suggestion on that site is to just draw circles, and lines, over and over to get use to the feel. But that doesn't mean you should feel bad if that site isn't helpful for you. It just means you have to move on to another tutorial/YouTube channel and figure out what helps for you. Posting your artwork, and asking for advice is also a great first step by the way :unsmith:. I liked that you decided to make Homer barefoot.

Aw thanks that's good advice,

Photoshop from scratch was really daunting. It has to many features that to me is just so far out there. Like hold a button and draw a line and all of a sudden half the screen explodes in a mix of coloured stripes.

The barefoot part was an accident. After drawing it I started colouring it. I then realised that I wasn't really learning anything by manually colouring this thing for 20 minutes so I started looking for shortcuts. I started looking for some form of filler tool like the paint thing. I couldn't find one and while zooming in I realised how "soft" the brush strokes were and maybe a filler tool wouldn't even be practical if I found one. Also the lines were on another layer all together.

I started selecting areas and filling in the selections but when I did the arm I still had the shoes selected so the shoes become yellow too. It looked alright so I went with it.

Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry

Katt posted:

Aw thanks that's good advice,

Photoshop from scratch was really daunting. It has to many features that to me is just so far out there. Like hold a button and draw a line and all of a sudden half the screen explodes in a mix of coloured stripes.

The barefoot part was an accident. After drawing it I started colouring it. I then realised that I wasn't really learning anything by manually colouring this thing for 20 minutes so I started looking for shortcuts. I started looking for some form of filler tool like the paint thing. I couldn't find one and while zooming in I realised how "soft" the brush strokes were and maybe a filler tool wouldn't even be practical if I found one. Also the lines were on another layer all together.

I started selecting areas and filling in the selections but when I did the arm I still had the shoes selected so the shoes become yellow too. It looked alright so I went with it.

I am not super familiar with photoshop (because I never liked working with it), but I couldn't find the filler brush either, what I do is select the area that you want to colour, then go to Edit, then choose Fill and pick the colour.
If your brush strokes are very soft and leave a visible edge when you fill them, you can pick layer content from your lineart layer by ctrl-clicking on the pic thumbnail, then going to Select - Modify - Contract and contract your chosen area by a pixel or two, copying THAT smaller selection, and pasting it onto a new layer under your normal lineart layer, then colouring that. On the other hand, you can pick your lineart layer content, go to Select - Modify - Expand, and expand by a few pixels, and then filling that in with black on a new layer that you place on top of the lineart layer you want to colour. This way, in both cases, the thicker lineart on the top layer will hide the incompletely filled edges that happen on the lower layer.

Handling the "wobble" when painting digital is a big part of the learning curve. It comes out most when you're taking your time with a line. Pull your lines quick and confident, or zoom in so much that after you're done making the line and pull back, the wobble will be invisible. It also helps to hide the wobble if you keep the pic far bigger than the end result will be when you're working on it, then shrink it to where you want it when you're done.
Other option is getting Paint Tool Sai, which has a function that reduces line wobble. It also lets you treat each line as a separate entity if you wish, where you can push and pull and smooth it out to your hearts content. I think Corel Illustrator does that too?
Either way you're currently not getting any line width variation and I'm not sure if that's because of the paint brush you've chosen or because your pressure sensitivity isn't working right. You'll need that if you want to repeat that lil homer!

JuniperCake
Jan 26, 2013
Look up some tutorials on masking that will help you a lot. One thing you can do is select an area with the magic wand tool, apply the selection as a mask to a layer then you can fill it and that'll work. If you want to separate say a character from the background, you can use the magic wand to select the area around the character, expand it by 3-5 pixels are so if you got rough lines then invert it and that works too. Masks are nice cause you can always alter them by selecting and painting them in with either black (to block out the layer) or white (to let it show). So definitely take the time to familiarize yourself with masks if you are gonna use photoshop.

d3c0y2
Sep 29, 2009
Also a lot of it just comes with practice. At the end of the day the physical act of drawing is a motor skill and practice will improve your accuracy and muscle memory.

Just because your hands can't draw what you imagine yet doesn't mean they never will. People seem to think drawing is an innate ability rather than a learned skill.

You wouldn't expect someone to be able to play an instrument having not touched one for ten plus years. So don't beat yourself up that you can't do it yet.

Practice practice practice and I'm sure you will succeed!

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Oh sorry! I got caught up in some editing some nazi klurf guy comics in the political comic thread but I'm back to drawing practise.

Original


New


Australia version


I know I know. Editing other artists work is Anathema but I felt a spark of inspiration.

I started going through the exercises from drawabox and they have been really helpful.

Telephones
Apr 28, 2013
vomit

Telephones fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Jul 27, 2018

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Please don’t make me look at red panels

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
double post I massacred margot robbie's face

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sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further


This is awesome. Music is a little loud / mildly annoying but content is awesome overall. Thanks.




1.5 hour speed sculpt.

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