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Somberbrero posted:You forgot gut. 100% of the time you've made this argument in a game with me, you've been scum.
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I've made it as town too. I get why it looks ridiculous but it's a thing that I think. It's the same thing as the Tilde Principle.
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Apr 17, 2015 00:43
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Somber's argument isn't bad, but his posting style "you're questioning me? what are we really questioning?" is suspect
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Apr 17, 2015 00:43
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Somberbrero posted:I've made it as town too. I get why it looks ridiculous but it's a thing that I think. It's the same thing as the Tilde Principle. which is also laughable! do you want me to link you to five posts i've made with rolleyes as town?
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Apr 17, 2015 00:44
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Jawdins posted:Somber's argument isn't bad, but his posting style "you're questioning me? what are we really questioning?" is suspect I am more curious about where Pin is going with this than what he is saying, yeah.
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Apr 17, 2015 00:45
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Somberbrero posted:You forgot gut. Yeah that's a big part of the thing, if Opop hadn't been such a dick about the way he responded to me I wouldn't be pushing him so hard but it was basically "look at this chump who can't see humor" and anything else was flat out dismissed instead of answered or responded to.
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Apr 17, 2015 00:47
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making meta-arguments that look reasonable but actually aren't, like "rolleyes and tildes are scummy," is a great way to look like you're engaging and throw suspicion on someone while keeping your hands clean.
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Apr 17, 2015 00:49
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Somberbrero posted:I am more curious about where Pin is going with this than what he is saying, yeah. 
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Apr 17, 2015 00:54
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Pinterest Mom posted:making meta-arguments that look reasonable but actually aren't, like "rolleyes and tildes are scummy," is a great way to look like you're engaging and throw suspicion on someone while keeping your hands clean. Meta's fun if you're seeing people make the same kinds of posts throughout a bunch of games but a solid argument about being dismissive is not scummy on its own I'm also ready to unvote ernie since he's too funny but drat, I don't want to unvote and be a non-voting pacifist.
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Apr 17, 2015 01:02
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Somberbrero posted:I've made it as town too. I get why it looks ridiculous but it's a thing that I think. It's the same thing as the Tilde Principle. These are both stupid as hell FYI. Look at actual content, don't be a robot. Opopanax posted:So what changed between this contentless vote and your last post from earlier today where you loosely defend me? Well, you were more of an obstinate bunghole. I dashed that post out before I went back to work. Assuming I'm not dunked I can justify it more later. MMM Whatchya Say posted:You guys are right about EP but his worst post is in fact this one: It's me making fun of Somber over like, the second game we played. Somber likes to make very clear judgements on me and lately they've been wrong as heck. He says it's his gut, but I'm trying to encourage him to do better.
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Apr 17, 2015 01:08
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Jawdins posted:I'm also ready to unvote ernie since he's too funny but drat, I don't want to unvote and be a non-voting pacifist. I'll ask you the same question I asked someone else: is humor an alignment tell for you?
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Apr 17, 2015 01:13
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Apr 17, 2015 01:24
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Epsilon Plus posted:
Awesome, so you're not even going to try and justify it, just hope it goes away Somberbrero posted:
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Apr 17, 2015 03:41
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If we all post it how will somber find the scum?
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Apr 17, 2015 03:43
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Opopanax posted:Awesome, so you're not even going to try and justify it, just hope it goes away I get that everyone wipes everyone else's rear end in your country, but if I don't slave for a meager wage an Ayn Randroid is going to capital-murder me and my family in my sleep, then harvest my organs. Please be more considerate of your morally-impoverished southern neighbors. Look Under The Rock sounds kind of dumb, but so do you. In fact, it's amusing that you claim I'm not justifying anything, but your case on LUTR is "gut ping". LUTR may have not really "gotten" you but I don't think that's as inherently scummy as you think.
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Apr 17, 2015 04:27
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Rolleyes and the tilde principal are both dumb, it's essentially taking something that is scummy in some context and making it a lovely policy rule. Actually the thing about not voting is that too. EP's use of Rolleyes wasn't good, but it's important to actually read the context of it.
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Apr 17, 2015 05:24
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Ernie. posted:
But I already found the scum!
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Apr 17, 2015 05:25
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Meanwhile, Ernie: likely scum?
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Apr 17, 2015 05:26
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Epsilon Plus posted:I get that everyone wipes everyone else's rear end in your country, but if I don't slave for a meager wage an Ayn Randroid is going to capital-murder me and my family in my sleep, then harvest my organs. Please be more considerate of your morally-impoverished southern neighbors. I hate this post so much that I'm thinking about switching my vote, it reeks of "hey I'm picking up votes let's try to flip things back to Opop" but it's backfiring. It's not out of line to ask you to justify a vote and your response is a serious overreaction.
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Apr 17, 2015 05:26
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Meanwhile, Ernie: likely scum? Ernie. posted:sorry you were uncomfortable with a very tame and meaningless joke followed by Ernie. posted:i don't, she's taken too definitive a stance to be afraid of getting investigated or caught out in contradictions feels pretty scummy to me.
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Apr 17, 2015 05:34
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Epsilon Plus posted:followed by why? do all disagreements have to be town on scum?
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Apr 17, 2015 05:36
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Ernie scum claiming is an Ernie scumtell iirc
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Apr 17, 2015 05:36
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Ernie scum claiming is an Ernie scumtell iirc i'd think it was a scumtell for most people, to be honest
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Apr 17, 2015 05:39
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Ernie. posted:why? do all disagreements have to be town on scum? No, but it feels like you're being very purposefully overbearing and painting her as a bad/difficult player, then trying to roll it in a bit to potentially gain favor. MMM Whatchya Say posted:Ernie scum claiming is an Ernie scumtell iirc Shrug; I try not to care about that kind of thing.
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Apr 17, 2015 05:41
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Epsilon Plus posted:No, but it feels like you're being very purposefully overbearing and painting her as a bad/difficult player, then trying to roll it in a bit to potentially gain favor. she is a difficult player and i'm not the only one who thinks it i think i held my tongue pretty well, too, considering she purposefully docked a few of my lines of logic to shoe-horn her points in but unlike opop, i don't think that that's indicative of her being scum, just her being convinced of her own case
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Apr 17, 2015 05:44
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also, sorry, game of thrones marathon
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Apr 17, 2015 05:45
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Votecount for Day 1  Opopanax (4): Murmur Twin, Epsilon Plus (3): Somberbrero, Ernie. (1): Jawdins Somberbrero (1): Murmur Twin, Look Under The Rock (1): Opopanax, Ernie., Jawdins (1): NevergirlsOFFICIAL, Ghostly Gangsta (0): Look Under The Rock, Ernie., HiipFire (0): Ernie., Alasdair Crawfish, Opopanax, Not Voting (2): HiipFire, Murmur TwinWith 13 alive, it's 7 votes to plorp. The current deadline is April 17th, 2015 at 8 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 17 hours, 35 minutes.
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Apr 17, 2015 07:24
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Ernie. posted:she is a difficult player and i'm not the only one who thinks it Weird because that's exactly what you were doing with my posts. If you want to point out any logic I docked then be my guest, I'll respond. That first line there, I dunno who else you're talking to about me because the only games we've played together are still ongoing. But it does feel like you wrote that bit to make me feel self conscious about my playstyle, which is a pretty poo poo move. "Difficult" is such an easy word to defend as a meta crit. What behavior would you prefer from me?
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Apr 17, 2015 14:15
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hey guys let's do a thing. Opop would you like to claim a thing?
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Apr 17, 2015 17:47
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Nope. ##vote EP
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Apr 17, 2015 17:53
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Look Under The Rock posted:Weird because that's exactly what you were doing with my posts. If you want to point out any logic I docked then be my guest, I'll respond. i'm not trying to tilt you sorry if i caused that fun and games etc.  ##vote the epsilon of plus why not
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Apr 17, 2015 18:14
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Somberbrero posted:hey guys let's do a thing. I can claim a thing It's
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Apr 17, 2015 18:15
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Is the e+ vote just self-preservation?
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Apr 17, 2015 18:15
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Ernie. posted:i'm not trying to tilt you look at Ernie not bothering to actually address anything
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Apr 17, 2015 18:16
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I'm at -2 if anyone gives a dry poo poo about that BTW
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Apr 17, 2015 18:17
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Epsilon Plus posted:look at Ernie not bothering to actually address anything
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Apr 17, 2015 18:17
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Blah, getting the grumbles over both these candidates now. Opop I think not claiming here is pretty risky and not a pro-town move maybe. I mean if you're a power role that sucks, but it would also suck if you were a power role and got lunched.
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Apr 17, 2015 18:18
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Somberbrero posted:Is the e+ vote just self-preservation? What does this mean? On who's part?
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Apr 17, 2015 18:18
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Somberbrero posted:Is the e+ vote just self-preservation? A little, he's also been pretty scummy though, what with all the stuff I said to him yesterday and all.
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Opop is in no danger of getting dunked and should not claim. Stop fishing.
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