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Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
lol @ how much goons loving love netflix

mmm i sure hope this one marginally more competent publicly traded media corporation completely loving locks down this market that's currently split amongst five or six marginally less competent publicly traded media corporations i'm sure they won't abuse their resulting monopoly power

you really think a corporation would do that? just give their customers a raw deal to increase their profits? the free market would never stand for this

also they are loving poo poo to work for and run by lovely people but that should go without saying (senior management loves stack ranking over there something something game of thrones)

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Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
btw corporations are amoral actors and as such corporate officers have absolutely no standing to make any appeals to morality

the moral aspects of copyright are somewhat nuanced but that should be a subject for private individuals to make a decision on.

HAIL eSATA-n
Apr 7, 2007


wrong, corporations are people and they want to be our friends

Blackula69
Apr 1, 2007

DEHUMANIZE  YOURSELF  &  FACE  TO  BLACULA
i'm not concerned about the very poor

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

but i do remember the rise and fall of the bit torrent barnyard

this is why i originally signed up for sa :10bux:

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

Visual GNUdio posted:

lol if you didn't join SA for the filez

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
i joined for the cliff yablonski

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

i remember getting a submitted map reviewed on cranky steve but i forget which one

i think it had been on planetquake at the time tho

text editor
Jan 8, 2007
i didnt know bittorrent barnyard was a thing that existed until last year

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!

PuTTY riot posted:

much like your posting

:supaburn:

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
lol if you didn't sign up to get dangum ronpa lets plays

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord
lol if u didn't sign up to post funny computer

big shtick energy
May 27, 2004


wolffenstein posted:

im surprised bittorrent sync hasn't taken over regular bittorrent because it practically eliminates nearly all the problems of bt (trackers, lack of encryption, ratios, rss feed for new content, etc.)

don't you kinda still need a tracker because dht can't do everything?

still though bitorrent sync does seem cool in terms of possible applications

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:

a "scene release" means it's the official album but on the tracker prior to official release.

e.g. the source isn't someone bought the CD at the store/on itunes and then uploaded it. they got it from like a distributor that goofed or something.

scene releases can and often are made from copies of legit media purchased at retail. or like, games that were purchased legit and cracked

also thanks to whoever linked that new yuorker article, it was a good read

wolffenstein
Aug 2, 2002
 
Pork Pro

DuckConference posted:

don't you kinda still need a tracker because dht can't do everything?

still though bitorrent sync does seem cool in terms of possible applications
my understanding is dht + peer exchange replaces everything a tracker would be used for besides "absolute" privacy

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder
i dont understand how something can provide anonymous p2p without a central network somewhere

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder
scratch that i dont understand how anonymous p2p can work at all

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

jony ive aces posted:

lol if u didn't sign up to post funny computer

computer werent funny back then. they were cool and serious and had a very real possibility of causing trinity to show up at your door to score some warez. i signed up to be leet liek jeffk. but this was a rereg for :filez:

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

i dont understand how something can provide anonymous p2p without a central network somewhere

something something blockchain

text editor
Jan 8, 2007

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

scratch that i dont understand how anonymous p2p can work at all

it doesnt

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder
i'm always really happy to discover that something isn't confusing because i'm too dumb to understand it (the assumed case), but because it actually just doesn't make any sense

big shtick energy
May 27, 2004


i don't think it's anonymous, obviously you can just see what ip you're sending/receiving blocks to/from

but it removes the need for a central tracker I guess, all you need is the key for a set of files and you can access them once you can find a node via DHT that has them

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

well there's freenet, where you know what IPs you're sending and receiving from but you don't know always what data you're getting. but the secure mode requires that you like manually exchange keys with people you trust irl

I've never used it though, for the obvious reason

Winkle-Daddy
Mar 10, 2007

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

i'm always really happy to discover that something isn't confusing because i'm too dumb to understand it (the assumed case), but because it actually just doesn't make any sense

sorry, it does actually work. Hope the helps with ur confusion!

e: p2p and anonymous p2p. i dont know anything about bitsync.

ultramiraculous
Nov 12, 2003

"No..."
Grimey Drawer
where da moviez at lowtax

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9BhQOTYTIc

ultramiraculous
Nov 12, 2003

"No..."
Grimey Drawer
show me the files richard

emoji
Jun 4, 2004

ultramiraculous posted:

where da moviez at lowtax

mmm hm

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003


welcome to page 4 :img-timeline:

text editor
Jan 8, 2007


Nice joke that's a wordpress blog!!

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Lutha Mahtin posted:

well there's freenet, where you know what IPs you're sending and receiving from but you don't know always what data you're getting. but the secure mode requires that you like manually exchange keys with people you trust irl

I've never used it though, for the obvious reason

I got 95% of the way i to configuring a freenet node before I thought about what things people would probably transmit over it. good thinking 16yo me

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

theflyingexecutive posted:

I got 95% of the way i to configuring a freenet node before I thought about what things people would probably transmit over it. good thinking 16yo me

Yeah, like I'm going to run a service on my computer with this in the faq...

quote:

Q: I don't want my node to be used to harbor child porn, offensive content or terrorism. What can I do?
A: ...If this is not acceptable to you, you should not run a Freenet node...

power botton
Nov 2, 2011

akadajet posted:

Yeah, like I'm going to run a service on my computer with this in the faq...

lmao

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

akadajet posted:

Yeah, like I'm going to run a service on my computer with this in the faq...

jfc

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



:gas:

text editor
Jan 8, 2007
freedoms are a slippery slope if we remove the freedom to exploit children, whats next, censorship of peace protests!!









gently caress anyone who defends freenet's ideals, though

Kirk
Sep 22, 2003

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

scratch that i dont understand how anonymous p2p can work at all

#mathishard

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!

akadajet posted:

Yeah, like I'm going to run a service on my computer with this in the faq...

:laffo:

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

text editor posted:

freedoms are a slippery slope if we remove the freedom to exploit children, whats next, censorship of peace protests!!



gently caress anyone who defends freenet's ideals, though

it really would be cool if somebody could design a freenet that excludes the icky stuff though

like hell yea i wanna help people with oppressive governments get news about the outside world. but nope you can't do that unless you're cool with allowing historical records on your machine of one of the worst crimes imaginable

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

i dont understand how something can provide anonymous p2p without a central network somewhere
afaik dht still relies on some "central" stuff; if you start a fresh install of a torrent client it might have a preset list of node addresses (several in case some get raided), then each time you run it it'll connect to the ones it knows and finds more, and save at least some of those it sees to config to connect to them next time too

it's not foolproof (all the preset ones for a particular client could be taken down) but it's better than nothing v:shobon:v

also i could be completely wrong about this but idk

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Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
yeah the problem is you have to have that first central node to get into the larger network and if you can discover it, so can anyone else which makes it vulnerable to attack. even if you are already on the network and have saved previous peers, if none of them are available the next time you get on then you have to go back to the central node to get back in.

my guess would be in normal bt operation the regular old tracker provides dht information so clients can continue without the tracker if it goes down or maybe as a mechanism to offload requests.

its more of a redundancy thing than a privacy thing

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